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I dont understand? The Z is as fast or faster then 135i, 335i, Evo, STI/WRX, New Camaro, RX8. But it had to be knocked down to a lower class? What

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Old 08-30-2011, 09:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I dont understand? The Z is as fast or faster then 135i, 335i, Evo, STI/WRX, New Camaro, RX8. But it had to be knocked down to a lower class? What cars was it competing with? Enzos, Lambos, ZR1 Vettes????
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I dont understand? The Z is as fast or faster then 135i, 335i, Evo, STI/WRX, New Camaro, RX8. But it had to be knocked down to a lower class? What cars was it competing with? Enzos, Lambos, ZR1 Vettes????
He's talking about SCCA classes for autox, you can see the list here:

http://www.scca.org/documents/Solo_R...solo_rules.pdf


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Besides, my worry is issues caused by the cooler. A whole ton of people have blown fittings--it happens from time to time.
agreed, I really hate having to add something like an oil cooler.
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My beef here is the (potential) warranty issues created by the oil cooler.
Well, on this issue, we agree. However, if you have a good dealer, (i know, hard to find but they're out there), then that does lower this particular risk somewhat.

I will be the first to say that on the Nismo esp and also the sport pkg Zs, an oil cooler should have at least been an optional "accessory" like the Nismo brake pads are. Still, not something that most folks won't need to add to any other car that sees hard track time and then you'd be in the same boat warrantee wise.

Evo X's with the DCT (or whatever they call their dual clutch manual) have trans overheating issues on track I've read and require a trans cooler for serious track use, that's going to be a warrantee nightmare if anything ever went wrong as well.

In this price bracket, there are going to be compromises, or you buy a higher class of car used for the same as a new Z, evo etc and hopefully it's going to last you and not have been beat to sh!t by the last owner.
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Well, on this issue, we agree. However, if you have a good dealer, (i know, hard to find but they're out there), then that does lower this particular risk somewhat.

I will be the first to say that on the Nismo esp and also the sport pkg Zs, an oil cooler should have at least been an optional "accessory" like the Nismo brake pads are. Still, not something that most folks won't need to add to any other car that sees hard track time and then you'd be in the same boat warrantee wise.

Evo X's with the DCT (or whatever they call their dual clutch manual) have trans overheating issues on track I've read and require a trans cooler for serious track use, that's going to be a warrantee nightmare if anything ever went wrong as well.

In this price bracket, there are going to be compromises, or you buy a higher class of car used for the same as a new Z, evo etc and hopefully it's going to last you and not have been beat to sh!t by the last owner.
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He's talking about SCCA classes for autox, you can see the list here:

http://www.scca.org/documents/Solo_R...solo_rules.pdf




agreed, I really hate having to add something like an oil cooler.
I can't open that site, but is this for a stock car?
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