Waiting to Inhale VQ37VHR tuning /modablity

Red__Zed · 08-30-2011, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

You can go with the Nismo cooler and dealership install it.

still not warrantied if the cooler fails.

theDreamer · 08-30-2011, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

still not warrantied if the cooler fails.

The oil cooler?
The car is still under warranty even with the oil cooler, the Nismo cooler has a separate limited warranty.

Red__Zed · 08-30-2011, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

The oil cooler?
The car is still under warranty even with the oil cooler, the Nismo cooler has a separate limited warranty.

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Originally Posted by Wally

After asking the dealership to put this in writing they quickly backed down since the Nissan Oil Cooler is considered a nismo competition part and does not come with any type of warranty from Nissan. The dealer will only point towards you warranty manual which is vague on the issue. I also checked around with other dealerships with the same response. Dealers say that by putting on an oil cooler will not affect you warranty unless the oil cooler fails and causes the damage. (Which from a legal standpoint I understand that this is the case) From several talks with consumer affairs, by placing an oil cooler on the vehicle that they classify as a competition part that the car has been modified for competition use therefore having the potential to void your power train warranty however the did say that your radio would still be covered.

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Originally Posted by Modshack

Again, good luck on that. You may have high expectations as to what "Warranty" will cover and what a dealer will actually put in writing. According to Nissan, your overall warranty is not void with this install, but the part itself is not warrantied. If it fails and takes out an engine, I doubt Nissan will consider that a warranted item. Their position on this is: (Emphasis on the last paragraph)

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Originally Posted by Nissan USA
The 370Z has an engine protection system that reduces peak engine speeds when the oil temperature exceeds recommended levels in order to protect against possible engine damage. Aggressive driving of the 370Z on a race track at sustained high engine speeds can cause increases in oil temperature and may activate this engine protection system. To avoid activation of this engine protection system and these reduced peak engine speeds, Nissan recommends an oil cooler be fitted to the 370Z before driving it on a race track. A Nissan Motorsports accessory oil cooler kit is available for customer purchase through authorized Nissan dealerships for race track use. The part number is 21300-SS370.

An oil cooler is not necessary for normal operation of the vehicle on public roads. The addition of an oil cooler would have raised the price of the car and potentially moved it out of the reach of some customers. Value has been a core principle of the Z car since the original 240Z and we choose to uphold this core principle by not adding additional costs that are unnecessary for normal use. For those individuals who choose to drive their vehicle on a race track, the oil cooler is available as an aftersales item.

The oil cooler is a Nissan Motorsports item and as such is sold without warranty, express or implied, unless expressly prohibited by law in which case the warranty provided is the minimum required by law. The installation of the Nissan Motorsports oil cooler does not, by itself, “void” the vehicle warranty. However any damage caused by the installation or use of this part is expressly excluded under the terms of the Nissan New Vehicle Limited warranty.

They're R Nissan parts, so their use is not warrantied officially. I haven't seen anyone have success in getting them warrantied (in writing).

Cmike2780 · 08-30-2011, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

They're R Nissan parts, so their use is not warrantied officially. I haven't seen anyone have success in getting them warrantied (in writing).

Warranty is only effected if it was shown to cause damage/malfunction and even then only applies to the part directly related to cause said damage/malfunction. Applied correctly, an oil cooler shouldn't cause any problems. I have yet to see anyone on this forum denied warranty work because of an oil cooler. A few have come close, but in the end it was shown not to be the cause. I would have figured you of all people would know a thing or two about the Magnuson-Moss warranty act.

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Originally Posted by red6spd

I dont understand? The Z is as fast or faster then 135i, 335i, Evo, STI/WRX, New Camaro, RX8. But it had to be knocked down to a lower class? What cars was it competing with? Enzos, Lambos, ZR1 Vettes????

I don't get that either. My old RX-8 was far slower the 370. Maybe the guys driving the Z had fat chicks in the passenger seat.

Red__Zed · 08-30-2011, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by red6spd

I dont understand? The Z is as fast or faster then 135i, 335i, Evo, STI/WRX, New Camaro, RX8. But it had to be knocked down to a lower class? What cars was it competing with? Enzos, Lambos, ZR1 Vettes????

No, it is several classes down from even base vettes. It cannot compete with the EVO/STI etc. Not sure why that is so hard for you to understand.

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

Warranty is only effected if it was shown to cause damage/malfunction and even then only applies to the part directly related to cause said damage/malfunction. Applied correctly, an oil cooler shouldn't cause any problems. I have yet to see anyone on this forum denied warranty work because of an oil cooler. A few have come close, but in the end it was shown not to be the cause. I would have figured you of all people would know a thing or two about the Magnuson-Moss warranty act.

I don't get that either. My old RX-8 was far slower the 370. Maybe the guys driving the Z had fat chicks in the passenger seat.

Magnuson-Moss is the most overstated act by people that have never made a warranty claim on a modded car.

Besides, my worry is issues caused by the cooler. A whole ton of people have blown fittings--it happens from time to time.

Cmike2780 · 08-31-2011, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Magnuson-Moss is the most overstated act by people that have never made a warranty claim on a modded car.

Besides, my worry is issues caused by the cooler. A whole ton of people have blown fittings--it happens from time to time.

Blown fittings, as with any aftermarket part depends on the manufacturer and proper installation. I can only remeber one instance on this forum where someone had a blown hose. Hardly means every oil cooler is sure to fail.

Doesn't make it any less legal or effective. I'm not saying you don't have to jump through hoops, nothing with dealerships is ever easy.

Red__Zed · 08-31-2011, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

Blown fittings, as with any aftermarket part depends on the manufacturer and proper installation. I can only remeber one instance on this forum where someone had a blown hose. Hardly means every oil cooler is sure to fail.

Doesn't make it any less legal or effective. I'm not saying you don't have to jump through hoops, nothing with dealerships is ever easy.

Ever jumped through those hoops? You are talking 18+ months before you get your car running again (if you go through the courts). Precedent on MM is very thin too, so it is risky.

Methodical4u · 08-30-2011, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

still not warrantied if the cooler fails.

I would imagine that would depend on the dealer. Some are "mod friendly".... others, not so much.

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