Oil Change

tbonesteak · 04-11-2009, 12:06 PM

ok back on topic.

ZzzZz · 04-14-2009, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Chan Chee Hoe

My dealer here don't have the Nissan Esters oil,anybody got a picture of the container,so that i can show it to the dealer.?

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Originally Posted by alan93rsa

I went to my local dealer, not the one I purchased the car from, and they didn't have a clue about any special oil for the car.

Chan Chee Hoe · 04-15-2009, 06:16 AM

Today,just checked with my Agent,they said never heard of the ester oil before,i bought Shell Helix Ultra[100% syn] & decided to use it when the car is fully run in.

semtex · 04-15-2009, 10:11 AM

^The Motul can be a little hard to find, depending on where you live.

Bobba Booey · 04-16-2009, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesse

I did more research and talked to some motorcycle racers and settled on MOTUL double ester. As soon as I rode the bike down the street it was amazing to say the least!! the shifts were smoother, the engine seemed completely different. It truely felt like a whole different....well.....everything. Crisp shifts, more power (butt dyno) And I never got any bubbles/foam!!!

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Originally Posted by Semtex

Yeah I've heard from a number of people that once you switch over to Motul, you will actually feel the difference.

Saying you will "feel" the difference by switching oils is the placebo effect with a shot of nitrous.

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Originally Posted by Jesse

Well a few years later I studied oils more and realized mobile 1 is not even true synthetic. I was PISSED!

If the specs of the oil were the only thing that mattered, then the UOA's from oils like Motul and Amsoil would put brands like Castrol and Pennzoil to shame. There is not enough data to know which brands will protect the VQ35VHR the best, but the highly acclaimed Motul did not provide as much protection on the VQ35DE as simple dino Castrol GTX. So, don't be so concerned about the base stock of the oil.

ChrisSlicks · 04-17-2009, 10:08 AM

When high rpms are involved, friction becomes a critical factor. Drag increases exponentially with piston speed, so you're going to do some different things in a 16k rpm motorcycle or 14k rpm F1 engine than you are in a 7-8k rpm street car.

Bobba Booey · 04-17-2009, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesse

motul actually spends hundreds of thousands on marketing

Fixed.

Don't get caught up in the hype. Motul is a racing oil, so if you car is used for purposes other than the track there are better options that cost much less money.

wstar · 04-17-2009, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobba Booey

Fixed.

Don't get caught up in the hype. Motul is a racing oil, so if you car is used for purposes other than the track there are better options that cost much less money.

The real world isn't a binary proposition between "drive like grandma" and "track it hard every day". There's a lot of in-between.

molamann · 04-17-2009, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesse

I make good money, resesion proof job (smogs), and I have my own shop.....I can spare a few bucks. I just quit smoking too. Anyone who wants to quit, get chantax, couldnt have done it without it. REALLY!!

Oh and yes it is a racing oil so have it changed at 3000 miles, or sooner like me.

I've had some WICKED dreams with chantix but didn't help me to quit. However, I've been smoke free for 3 days now and that was because I was bedridden due to a surgery for two weeks. Hopefully I can keep it up.

/offtopic

ChrisSlicks · 04-17-2009, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by molamann

I've had some WICKED dreams with chantix but didn't help me to quit. However, I've been smoke free for 3 days now and that was because I was bedridden due to a surgery for two weeks. Hopefully I can keep it up.

/offtopic

Give me your address. If you get tempted to start up again I'll send around a friend to break both your legs and send you back to bed for a while

Keep it up.

Bobba Booey · 04-17-2009, 03:44 PM

^ very true. That's why I can't understand why people would pay so much money for racing oil when there car will be used for purposes other than racing.

wstar · 04-20-2009, 11:56 AM

Well, I have to play devil's advocate here, even though I have some Motul on order...

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Originally Posted by Jesse

Because, if oil does well in the harshest environment or running condition, then it must be EXTRA good when just cruzin around.

It's not necessarily true that racing parts and fluids are even better on the street, although it often works out well. Remember that in higher-end racing, engines are constantly rebuilt and fluids are changed after every race. Therefore they don't really need to worry about long-term wear, they just want protection from failure for one race, and the thinnest fluid they can put in there because thin, slippery oil gives a little horsepower bump.

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Some other cool things about MOTUL, its made from veggies! Vegetable oil, which will not have the impurities of crude oil.

All oils have to be purified and refined, including vegetable oils. It's not like the veggies are grown in a clean room, and even if they were you still have plant matter to separate out.

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Because of this it is also HIGHLY biodegradable.

Personally, I don't give a crap about whether the oil is biodegradable, and I bet you still have to dispose of it at the oil dropoff at your favorite auto parts place. You're involved in CA EPA stuff: do you think an EPA representative would witness you dumping Motul into the soil and be ok with that?

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If you smell it, you will want to drink it....smells like fruit punch. Also has a cool glow stick color to it.

I don't plan on drinking my motor oil, and I would never put fruit punch or glow-stick fluid in my engine, so this is irrelevant.

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I read that it is polarized meaning magnetic. I couldn't manipulate it with some magnets I had at work but this doesn't prove anything though.

Polarized does not mean magnetic in the general sense, although permanent magnets can be said to have the majority of their atoms aligned along a given polarity axis. Here's a video about ferrofluids, which are actual magnetic liquids. Motul does not do this:

armensti · 04-18-2009, 03:27 AM

the guy that told me about motul said that its the best out there and he had a customer there and he asked him how motul was working for him and he said great. the mechanic said that once i make the change i will never go back so im hoping its worth the price.

how can not using ester oil void your warranty? its says use 5w-30 in the maintenance book right? so how can it void your warranty? is there any truth to that?

armensti · 04-19-2009, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesse

I dont know about the other states, but in california, if you follow the warranty (which SHOULD be avail and easy to understand) the court will ALWAYS side with the consumer. Dealerships know this and they can be shisty or they will bully a bit....but if you even mention the Buearu of Automotive Repair (B.A.R.) or getting a lawer, they will give in to your demands for sure. Here in California, the state will not hesitate to shut your @SS down.

so if the maintenance booklet says 5w-30 then you can pretty much use any good brand of oil if its 5W-30 and they cant do **** about it right?

semtex · 04-19-2009, 04:01 PM

In case anyone is wondering, here's what the Project Kics magnetic drain plug that we were discussing a few pages back looks like installed:

04-15-2009, 10:11 AM	#4 (permalink)
semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 55 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 34	^The Motul can be a little hard to find, depending on where you live. __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.

04-19-2009, 04:01 PM	#15 (permalink)
semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 55 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 34	In case anyone is wondering, here's what the Project Kics magnetic drain plug that we were discussing a few pages back looks like installed: __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.

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04-11-2009, 12:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
tbonesteak Track Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 914 Drives: MY09 MB 6MT Rep Power: 377	ok back on topic.

04-15-2009, 06:16 AM	#3 (permalink)
Chan Chee Hoe Track Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Singapore Posts: 861 Drives: 370z,Yellow,7sp A Rep Power: 19	Today,just checked with my Agent,they said never heard of the ester oil before,i bought Shell Helix Ultra[100% syn] & decided to use it when the car is fully run in.

04-17-2009, 10:08 AM	#6 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 655	When high rpms are involved, friction becomes a critical factor. Drag increases exponentially with piston speed, so you're going to do some different things in a 16k rpm motorcycle or 14k rpm F1 engine than you are in a 7-8k rpm street car.

04-17-2009, 03:44 PM	#11 (permalink)
Bobba Booey Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Sirius Posts: 51 Drives: Z33 Rep Power: 18	^ very true. That's why I can't understand why people would pay so much money for racing oil when there car will be used for purposes other than racing.

04-18-2009, 03:27 AM	#13 (permalink)
armensti Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: CA Posts: 447 Drives: 370Z/Tring/Spt/6MT Rep Power: 18	the guy that told me about motul said that its the best out there and he had a customer there and he asked him how motul was working for him and he said great. the mechanic said that once i make the change i will never go back so im hoping its worth the price. how can not using ester oil void your warranty? its says use 5w-30 in the maintenance book right? so how can it void your warranty? is there any truth to that?