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just past the breakin now im done granny shifting at 3k and back to my normal shifting at 4k-5k and my itch to always redline and go (not slow-lol) tonight

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Old 05-01-2009, 10:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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just past the breakin now im done granny shifting at 3k and back to my normal shifting at 4k-5k and my itch to always redline and go (not slow-lol)
tonight i saw 240 for the first time
it got me thinking i really need to bump my oil cooler up my list to buy

nissan needs to get to this and get a fix

*crosses fingers**
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Here's the latest data from our oil temp survey thread (here Oil Temp Survey)... thanks to everyone that has taken it so far!

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Got my Stillen kit installed today ! track day Sunday !

In addition to the kit, I think we will all benefit from some additional time on motor and maybe switching to a more efficient motor oil
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It was 88 to 90 degrees yesterday and I saw a steady 230 degrees in oil temp just cruising around town.. this seems ludacris, but I also don't know what temps are considered dangerous and which temps are in the safe zone.

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It was 88 to 90 degrees yesterday and I saw a steady 230 degrees in oil temp just cruising around town.. this seems ludacris, but I also don't know what temps are considered dangerous and which temps are in the safe zone.
It's not really dangerous until you are continuously riding near or above 260. At that point there is a risk to bearings.

230 isn't bad itself, but it is when you consider that temp was while cruising. Once you step the RPM's up the oil temp is going to go up with it.
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It was 88 to 90 degrees yesterday and I saw a steady 230 degrees in oil temp just cruising around town.. this seems ludacris, but I also don't know what temps are considered dangerous and which temps are in the safe zone.

Jay
Same here, I'm in Charleston and the temps and humidity are not too far off from Jax. I am still in break-in. I am reasonably certain that once I begin pushing the RPMs as the car was meant to be driven, in our weather, temps will be far too high to be safe and allow longevity to the engine.

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Crash,

It would be nice if it were that simple. But to be honest I don't see how you could price a Setrab cooler at 75% off the already discounted $225. That would indicated a cost of around $56. You couldn't buy the raw materials and stamp the plates for that amount of money.

For grins, call a BMW parts department and price a cooler for a 335i. It will be a rude awakening. Or just go online and add up the parts. Don't forget to add in a tube of Neosporin. If you have never put together AN fittings and SS hose your fingers are going to hate you.
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Have had the car for two days now, not pushing it (have shifted at 5k twice only from 2-3), and my temps have not passed 220 yet, thankfully. I am still under 200 miles so it will be a few weeks before I get her opened up, but in Houston it has been getting humid and warmer lately so if I start seeing this creep up during the break in period with me shifting <4k, I will be putting in my call.
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what about this little guy? Only $120.

B&M 70270 - B&M SuperCooler Oil Coolers
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what about this little guy? Only $120.

B&M 70270 - B&M SuperCooler Oil Coolers
I don't know what core that is, could be a great one, could be crappy. The Setrab cores that the Stillen and Nissan Motorsports kits are using are a solid, well-proven design though. Also, that kit looks like it uses plain rubber hose. It will "work", but personally I wouldn't trust a plain rubber hose for something as critical as oil cooler lines. If they burst, or a cheap hose-clamp connection leaks or breaks loose, or something rubs on them and cuts them, or even wears a weak spot in it (leading to a burst)... it takes a very very short window of time to destroy your engine once your oil starts dumping on the ground from such a failure. Good quality hoses (and attention paid to the details of routing and protecting them) are a must for an oil cooler.

In a somewhat related incident from my past, I once had a transmission cooler on a TH400 auto tranny on an 81 Firebird that was run up to the front with rubber hoses like that. A few thousand miles after install, when I was pretty confident it was holding up well, I was on a long highway cruise in the middle of summer. Running down a highway between towns with no exit or service station in sight, one of the hoses blew out. I heard it and immediately shut the car down onto the shoulder and turned it off, but it wasn't fast enough to save anything.

2 Hours on the roadside waiting for a tow truck, a *long* tow back to the nearest large town, and refilled the fluid, but the tranny was dead. Had to do a complete rebuild on it.

Moral of the story: don't skimp out on hoses and connections for critical fluids.
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Guys, don't skimp out on the oil cooler....a few hundred dollars can very easily turn into several thousand, and I mean several thousand.
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Let me reinforce the point... I'm on my second motor on this car... Not going to go into details, but I had a marginal quality oil cooler kit with cheap lines that blew out... cost about $9K installed for a new motor... DO NOT USE CHEAP OIL COOLER KITS OR CHEAP LINES... spend the extra couple hundred... there is no reason not to go with the kits available from Stillen and GTM
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Let me reinforce the point... I'm on my second motor on this car... Not going to go into details, but I had a marginal quality oil cooler kit with cheap lines that blew out... cost about $9K installed for a new motor... DO NOT USE CHEAP OIL COOLER KITS OR CHEAP LINES... spend the extra couple hundred... there is no reason not to go with the kits available from Stillen and GTM
What's the difference in Stillen and a cheaper one? Besides the lines/hoses and hook ups! (No sarcasm intended!)
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What's the difference in Stillen and a cheaper one? Besides the lines/hoses and hook ups! (No sarcasm intended!)
That would leave the core, the filter adapter and mount.

Think quality control and one from a bad batch with poor quality getting on your car. Design, how much is the psi delta across the cooler, what's the thermal capacity? You can find that information for every Setrab made.

Filter plate - Same quality procedures. I wouldn't want a plate that was cast in someones barn with no QC. Think porous casting which cracks down the road.

Mounting kit - What do you get with the cheap kit?

Assembly - If a line blows off a fitting you are screwed. If you look at a line with the fittings installed you probably won't know if it was installed correctly or not. It goes back to the supplier/vendor doing it right. In my opinion you need to buy this type of item from someone with a history of making good parts and standing behind them.

Sometimes the least expensive route is going the more expensive route the first time.

Just some food for thought.
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guy's!!this is a very good topic and nissan should be aware of whats going on.and yes!i purchased my 370z last feb and yes ive seen this temp goes up almost to 250 and this worries me a lot.in the past whenever there's a new car coming out i usualy wait the next two year to make a purchase just like what happened to the 350z(camber problems),they corrected this problem after so many that purchased this car and made complaints .but when 370z came out i couldnt resist it and didnt wait so here i go with this problem.i hope this situation will be solve and nissan should do something bout this and treat this as a recall,its okay to make mistakes just do the right thing and correct it!!simple as that!! rather than consumer's like us that spent our hard earned money to purchased this remarkable creation swing the other way and buy maybe german car's..american made car's?hmmm that's a long shot..jk all im saying is we dont have to spend money to correct their mistakes.nissan has to be liable and thats the bottom line..

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