Sticky: (Official) 370Z Clutch Pressure (CSC) Failures

KoolKarmaJoe · 08-02-2015, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by FairladyZ40th

Haha either way my wallets *** is getting stretched XD haha btw it's in the shop now and it is the CSC also the master piston and my mechanic recommends I resurface the flywheel but I'm thinking while he's there I should get upgrades... Gentlemen SUGGESTIONS!?

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Get a HD CSC from Zspeed with the insulated clutch line. Instead of resurfacing old oem flywheel why not upgrade with new CLUTCH kit/Flywheel Combo from ZSpeed also. Flush trans & replace fluid with MOTUL Gear Oil. Keep you old OEM Flywheel because you can sell online to recoup some bucks. Depending on your mileage you may want to consider replacing CMC too.

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firulice · 08-02-2015, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by FairladyZ40th

Haha either way my wallets *** is getting stretched XD haha btw it's in the shop now and it is the CSC also the master piston and my mechanic recommends I resurface the flywheel but I'm thinking while he's there I should get upgrades... Gentlemen SUGGESTIONS!?

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get a kit...ZSpeed Performance Nissan Infinti Performance Parts and OEM

BamBamZ · 08-02-2015, 10:31 AM

Name - Year - Mileage

1: Digitonium - 2009 - 16,158

2: dubhov - 2010 - 6,605

3: Joka4411 - 2010 - 10,000

4: Zeto - 2009 - ?????

5: Calivin - ???? - 11,500

6: Lazer_Z - ???? - 3,412

7: Zilent_Jay - 2009 - ????

8: Crystalline - 2009 - 8,500

9: Sarmyth - 2010 - 10,000

10: Fastfatdude - ???? - 140

11: Quicksliver- 2008 G37s - 25,000-30,000

12: Boost'dVQ - 2011 - 7,600

13: Big_J - 2009 - 21,000

14: Trilitheum - 2011 - ????

15: anthonyy - 2011 - 12,000

16: Youseenothing - 2011 - 9,300

17: 370Z_Purist - 2009 - 12,000

18: Bking - ???? - ????

19: Knio - 2010 - 17,000

20: dragonbreath - 2009 - 28,000

21: juice14 - 2011 - 6,200

22: Random_Strata - 2010 - 36,000

23: L8N8 - 2011 - ????

24: JennyT71 - 2010 - 26,000

25: TheGreatOne - 2010 - 22,000

26: windex - ???? - ????

27: Neptune - 2009 - ????

28: afbunn - 2009 - ????

29: sparhax - 2009 - 40,000

30: sungear - 2011 - 35,500

31: lhinojos - 2012 - ????

32: Steveasis - 2012 - 8,000

33: Slikshoes - 2011 - 16,200

34: Jstevenson - 2009 - 25,000

35: Simota1 - ???? - ????

36: Talimac - 2012 - 14,000

37: Sinceday1 - 2009 - 37,000 (Kilometers)

38: Slipper4678 - 2010 - 34,000

39: luigi90210 - 2011 - 29,000 & 33,000

40: SAmilitaryman - 2009 - 60,000

41: Shutterjock - 2010 - ????

42: Zensation - ???? - ????

43: Farmosh203 - 2009 - ????

44: Ephan - ???? - 24,000

45: Jstevenson - 2009 - 33,000 *again*

46: Denny_Mcclain - ???? - 18,000 & 43,000

47: DarylP - 2011 - 33,000

48: Kail - 2009 - 48,000

49: hunterinc - 2009 - 45,000

50: MikeUCFL - 2012 - 14,500

51: mdxj - 2009 - 33,000

52: jordan777er - 2009 - 50,900

53: n8gtol - ??? - 20,000 *3rd time*

54: Kylebucket - 2009 - 27,000

55: joelito - 2012 - 12,100 *4th time*

56: 1087 - 2012 - 12,243

57: ohmikegod - 2012 - ????

58: Z_Man - 2009 - 8,000

59: Kuyo - 2014 - 7,000

60: 90_ST - 2009 - 27,500 (Kilometers) *2nd time*

61: Osirus - 2011 - 40,000 *4th time*

62: tr0n - 2012 - 21,000

63: radensb - 2009 - ????

64: JeMo44 - 2013 - ????

65: mab864 - 2013 - 9,900 *2nd time*

66: duderevs - 2009 - 30,000 (Kilometers)

67: tigwelder - 2010 - 15,000

68: Need_NewName - 2009 - ????

69: R3drckt09 - 2009 - ????

70: Johnwiki - 2011 - 60,000

71: UXI - 2015 - 2,012

72: j312311 - 2015 - 1,700

73: pbs370z - 2010 - 9,000

74: Misnomer - 2010 - 28,000

75: Agent_K - 2013 - ????

76: KoolKarmajoe - 2009 - 64,000

77: BamBamZ - 2009 - 31,075

78: VBP6US - 2009 - 30,000 & 60,000

79: ZBrah - 2011 - 25,465

80: Rumblefish - 2010 - 29,000

81: jwick - 2010 G37 - 1,200

82: Fosingwo- 2011 - 17,000

83: Trainwreck - 2009 - 49,000

84: Cheech - 2010 - 53,000

85: Rareline1773 - 2016 - 500 (Reddit user)

86: Anifaust - 2009 - 47,000

87: KBC749 - 2010 - 41,000

88: ReadT - 2011 - 58,000

89: Zmanelite - 2012 - 21,000

90: FairladyZ10PG - 2010 - 55,000

91: FairladyZ40th - 2010 - 95,000

92: 2slow2care - 2011 - 63,000

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FairladyZ40th · 08-03-2015, 11:54 AM

So I purchased a full kit that includes the (CSC/ pressure plate/ 6 puck clutch disc/ and a lightweight flywheel for $465 and got a master cylinder on the side for $75)

idk how much labor will be yet but I'll update haha

I had another question... Anybody know by any chance how much HP the STOCK DRIVE SHAFT can handle and what the material of the shaft is? I keep reading that they come CF stock. Is that true?

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JARblue · 08-03-2015, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by FairladyZ40th

I had another question... Anybody know by any chance how much HP the STOCK DRIVE SHAFT can handle and what the material of the shaft is? I keep reading that they come CF stock. Is that true?

It is a CF composite.
Carbon Fiber DriveShaft?

A fair amount according to this thread.
How much HP?

Fun pictures in here

370z Driveshaft Melted

eastwest2300 · 08-03-2015, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by FairladyZ40th

So I purchased a full kit that includes the (CSC/ pressure plate/ 6 puck clutch disc/ and a lightweight flywheel for $465 and got a master cylinder on the side for $75)

idk how much labor will be yet but I'll update haha

I had another question... Anybody know by any chance how much HP the STOCK DRIVE SHAFT can handle and what the material of the shaft is? I keep reading that they come CF stock. Is that true?

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Dude, you totally got the hook up, where'd you get all those goodies for that price?

FairladyZ40th · 08-03-2015, 01:55 PM

I'll admit that it's not a big brand or anything but we gotta give the little guys a chance I'll post a link but I found it on eBay.

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FairladyZ40th · 08-03-2015, 02:09 PM

Here it is fellas!

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ShutokuZ · 08-03-2015, 04:24 PM

I don't mean to bash on your purchase, but XTD clutches do not hold up for very long. Most threads I have read complain about the disk friction material disintegrating and turning to powder, leaving nothing but bare metal on the disk puck or the pucks not wearing evenly. Also, they start to slip quick and don't provide the advertised clamping force/TQ numbers. The previous owner of my old Evo put in a XTD stage 4 with a sprung disk, and the springs actually seperated from the disk in 4k miles! I didn't know what was in there until I had it pulled and replaced with ACT. I will post a pic of the disk when I get home.

FairladyZ40th · 08-03-2015, 04:35 PM

Well it's what I could afford in the mean time and I need to get my car quick so I'll give it a try any way and it comes with a warranty too so I'm not worried

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FairladyZ40th · 08-03-2015, 04:37 PM

I will be providing updates on my experience with the kit for everyone once the job is done. If anyone is interested in taking a small chance haha and lastly that's what feedback is for guys. Improvement.

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eastwest2300 · 08-03-2015, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by FairladyZ40th

I will be providing updates on my experience with the kit for everyone once the job is done. If anyone is interested in taking a small chance haha and lastly that's what feedback is for guys. Improvement.

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Yeah bro I've never heard of that brand, thats definitely half the cost that I paid for my setup from zspeed, I'm not sure if ALL clutches & flywheels require "breaking them in" periods but if I were you, I would rather be safe than sorry, so your first 400 to 500 miles you wanna drive it, but nothing crazy. Whatever you do, don't go cheap on your fluids. (clutch reservoir & transmission).

FairladyZ40th · 08-03-2015, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300

Yeah bro I've never heard of that brand, thats definitely half the cost that I paid for my setup from zspeed, I'm not sure if ALL clutches & flywheels require "breaking them in" periods but if I were you, I would rather be safe than sorry, so your first 400 to 500 miles you wanna drive it, but nothing crazy. Whatever you do, don't go cheap on your fluids. (clutch reservoir & transmission).

Thank you for the heads up and tips man! I do believe I read something about breaking it in for the first 500 miles. I think I'll do it for longer though and as for fluids I'm always putting in royal purple for all fluids- engine oil, transmission and differential

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ShutokuZ · 08-03-2015, 10:43 PM

Here is how the sprung disk looked after it was pulled. I have never seen a plate grenade like that, no matter how hard I beat on one auto-x'ing.

eastwest2300 · 08-04-2015, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by FairladyZ40th

Thank you for the heads up and tips man! I do believe I read something about breaking it in for the first 500 miles. I think I'll do it for longer though and as for fluids I'm always putting in royal purple for all fluids- engine oil, transmission and differential

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Im a mobil 1 fan, although, for the clutch I used the Motul RBF600 and for the transmission I used Redline (its expensive as sh1t) but I used that for the first time, Joe from Zspeed said it basically fends off the chatter known for clutch upgrades.

08-03-2015, 11:54 AM	#4 (permalink)
FairladyZ40th Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: San Diego Posts: 483 Drives: 2010 370z 40th 6MT Rep Power: 63	Sticky: (Official) 370Z Clutch Pressure (CSC) Failures So I purchased a full kit that includes the (CSC/ pressure plate/ 6 puck clutch disc/ and a lightweight flywheel for $465 and got a master cylinder on the side for $75) idk how much labor will be yet but I'll update haha I had another question... Anybody know by any chance how much HP the STOCK DRIVE SHAFT can handle and what the material of the shaft is? I keep reading that they come CF stock. Is that true? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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BamBamZ Base Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Mountain House, CA Posts: 95 Drives: Touring/Sport/6spd Rep Power: 12	Name - Year - Mileage 1: Digitonium - 2009 - 16,158 2: dubhov - 2010 - 6,605 3: Joka4411 - 2010 - 10,000 4: Zeto - 2009 - ????? 5: Calivin - ???? - 11,500 6: Lazer_Z - ???? - 3,412 7: Zilent_Jay - 2009 - ???? 8: Crystalline - 2009 - 8,500 9: Sarmyth - 2010 - 10,000 10: Fastfatdude - ???? - 140 11: Quicksliver- 2008 G37s - 25,000-30,000 12: Boost'dVQ - 2011 - 7,600 13: Big_J - 2009 - 21,000 14: Trilitheum - 2011 - ???? 15: anthonyy - 2011 - 12,000 16: Youseenothing - 2011 - 9,300 17: 370Z_Purist - 2009 - 12,000 18: Bking - ???? - ???? 19: Knio - 2010 - 17,000 20: dragonbreath - 2009 - 28,000 21: juice14 - 2011 - 6,200 22: Random_Strata - 2010 - 36,000 23: L8N8 - 2011 - ???? 24: JennyT71 - 2010 - 26,000 25: TheGreatOne - 2010 - 22,000 26: windex - ???? - ???? 27: Neptune - 2009 - ???? 28: afbunn - 2009 - ???? 29: sparhax - 2009 - 40,000 30: sungear - 2011 - 35,500 31: lhinojos - 2012 - ???? 32: Steveasis - 2012 - 8,000 33: Slikshoes - 2011 - 16,200 34: Jstevenson - 2009 - 25,000 35: Simota1 - ???? - ???? 36: Talimac - 2012 - 14,000 37: Sinceday1 - 2009 - 37,000 (Kilometers) 38: Slipper4678 - 2010 - 34,000 39: luigi90210 - 2011 - 29,000 & 33,000 40: SAmilitaryman - 2009 - 60,000 41: Shutterjock - 2010 - ???? 42: Zensation - ???? - ???? 43: Farmosh203 - 2009 - ???? 44: Ephan - ???? - 24,000 45: Jstevenson - 2009 - 33,000 again 46: Denny_Mcclain - ???? - 18,000 & 43,000 47: DarylP - 2011 - 33,000 48: Kail - 2009 - 48,000 49: hunterinc - 2009 - 45,000 50: MikeUCFL - 2012 - 14,500 51: mdxj - 2009 - 33,000 52: jordan777er - 2009 - 50,900 53: n8gtol - ??? - 20,000 3rd time 54: Kylebucket - 2009 - 27,000 55: joelito - 2012 - 12,100 4th time 56: 1087 - 2012 - 12,243 57: ohmikegod - 2012 - ???? 58: Z_Man - 2009 - 8,000 59: Kuyo - 2014 - 7,000 60: 90_ST - 2009 - 27,500 (Kilometers) 2nd time 61: Osirus - 2011 - 40,000 4th time 62: tr0n - 2012 - 21,000 63: radensb - 2009 - ???? 64: JeMo44 - 2013 - ???? 65: mab864 - 2013 - 9,900 2nd time 66: duderevs - 2009 - 30,000 (Kilometers) 67: tigwelder - 2010 - 15,000 68: Need_NewName - 2009 - ???? 69: R3drckt09 - 2009 - ???? 70: Johnwiki - 2011 - 60,000 71: UXI - 2015 - 2,012 72: j312311 - 2015 - 1,700 73: pbs370z - 2010 - 9,000 74: Misnomer - 2010 - 28,000 75: Agent_K - 2013 - ???? 76: KoolKarmajoe - 2009 - 64,000 77: BamBamZ - 2009 - 31,075 78: VBP6US - 2009 - 30,000 & 60,000 79: ZBrah - 2011 - 25,465 80: Rumblefish - 2010 - 29,000 81: jwick - 2010 G37 - 1,200 82: Fosingwo- 2011 - 17,000 83: Trainwreck - 2009 - 49,000 84: Cheech - 2010 - 53,000 85: Rareline1773 - 2016 - 500 (Reddit user) 86: Anifaust - 2009 - 47,000 87: KBC749 - 2010 - 41,000 88: ReadT - 2011 - 58,000 89: Zmanelite - 2012 - 21,000 90: FairladyZ10PG - 2010 - 55,000 91: FairladyZ40th - 2010 - 95,000 92: 2slow2care - 2011 - 63,000 File a NHTSA Complaint https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/

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FairladyZ40th Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: San Diego Posts: 483 Drives: 2010 370z 40th 6MT Rep Power: 63	I'll admit that it's not a big brand or anything but we gotta give the little guys a chance I'll post a link but I found it on eBay. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

08-03-2015, 02:09 PM	#8 (permalink)
FairladyZ40th Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: San Diego Posts: 483 Drives: 2010 370z 40th 6MT Rep Power: 63	Here it is fellas! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

08-03-2015, 04:24 PM	#9 (permalink)
ShutokuZ Track Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Honolulu Posts: 512 Drives: 2013 PW 6MT Sport Rep Power: 15	I don't mean to bash on your purchase, but XTD clutches do not hold up for very long. Most threads I have read complain about the disk friction material disintegrating and turning to powder, leaving nothing but bare metal on the disk puck or the pucks not wearing evenly. Also, they start to slip quick and don't provide the advertised clamping force/TQ numbers. The previous owner of my old Evo put in a XTD stage 4 with a sprung disk, and the springs actually seperated from the disk in 4k miles! I didn't know what was in there until I had it pulled and replaced with ACT. I will post a pic of the disk when I get home.

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FairladyZ40th Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: San Diego Posts: 483 Drives: 2010 370z 40th 6MT Rep Power: 63	Well it's what I could afford in the mean time and I need to get my car quick so I'll give it a try any way and it comes with a warranty too so I'm not worried Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

08-03-2015, 04:37 PM	#11 (permalink)
FairladyZ40th Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: San Diego Posts: 483 Drives: 2010 370z 40th 6MT Rep Power: 63	I will be providing updates on my experience with the kit for everyone once the job is done. If anyone is interested in taking a small chance haha and lastly that's what feedback is for guys. Improvement. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk