Sticky: (Official) 370Z Clutch Pressure (CSC) Failures

eastwest2300 · 06-26-2015, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by nizmo19

What does that adjustment entail?

Im not actually sure, but you can get with Jarblue, he runs that setup, he's talked about it a few times, and does the adjustment himself.

KoolKarmaJoe · 06-26-2015, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by nizmo19

Why not buy the z1 CSC elimination kit instead?

Z1 description from their site....."this conversion kit serves a very narrow window & requires ongoing adjustments". Some on forum say they got to get car on ramps and adjust every 2nd fill-up. There's only so many adjustments that can be made in reality . Sooner or later you've used up all adjustment options. I can go through 2 fillups just trying to get to my vacation destination. I don't have room to carry ramps.

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nizmo19 · 06-26-2015, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KoolKarmaJoe

Z1 description from their site....."this conversion kit serves a very narrow window & requires ongoing adjustments". Some on forum say they got to get car on ramps and adjust every 2nd fill-up. There's only so many adjustments that can be made in reality . Sooner or later you've used up all adjustment options. I can go through 2 fillups just trying to get to my vacation destination. I don't have room to carry ramps.

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No way. So every 500 miles or so you need to get under car and adjust it?? That's insane.

nizmo19 · 06-26-2015, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KoolKarmaJoe

Z1 description from their site....."this conversion kit serves a very narrow window & requires ongoing adjustments". Some on forum say they got to get car on ramps and adjust every 2nd fill-up. There's only so many adjustments that can be made in reality . Sooner or later you've used up all adjustment options. I can go through 2 fillups just trying to get to my vacation destination. I don't have room to carry ramps.

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Also what do u mean used up all the options?

JARblue · 06-29-2015, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by KoolKarmaJoe

Z1 description from their site....."this conversion kit serves a very narrow window & requires ongoing adjustments". Some on forum say they got to get car on ramps and adjust every 2nd fill-up. There's only so many adjustments that can be made in reality . Sooner or later you've used up all adjustment options. I can go through 2 fillups just trying to get to my vacation destination. I don't have room to carry ramps.

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I'd be interested to see a link to someone on this forum saying it requires adjustments every 2nd fill up. Because that is bogus. Or maybe their kit was installed by a monkey

The adjustment is needed as the clutch plate wears down. It is minor and needed very infrequently. I made a 1/2 turn adjustment (smallest you can make) after ~12K miles. There's no way you will run out of adjustments before needing to replace the clutch.

eastwest2300 · 06-29-2015, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

I'd be interested to see a link to someone on this forum saying it requires adjustments every 2nd fill up. Because that is bogus. Or maybe their kit was installed by a monkey

The adjustment is needed as the clutch plate wears down. It is minor and needed very infrequently. I made a 1/2 turn adjustment (smallest you can make) after ~12K miles. There's no way you will run out of adjustments before needing to replace the clutch.

a monkey? really?

KoolKarmaJoe · 06-29-2015, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

I'd be interested to see a link to someone on this forum saying it requires adjustments every 2nd fill up. Because that is bogus. Or maybe their kit was installed by a monkey

The adjustment is needed as the clutch plate wears down. It is minor and needed very infrequently. I made a 1/2 turn adjustment (smallest you can make) after ~12K miles. There's no way you will run out of adjustments before needing to replace the clutch.

Read their site - " A very narrow window... unit requires adjustments..." That's Z1's words! Unless they updated their website . Part looks bulky; like to see how it fits with twin Turbo kit!

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300

a monkey? really?

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MagmaRed370z · 06-26-2015, 01:38 PM

I wonder how much total in Labor will a stealearship charge to swap the crappy CSC with a Zspeed?

eastwest2300 · 06-26-2015, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by schellingr

I wonder how much total in Labor will a stealearship charge to swap the crappy CSC with a Zspeed?

You'd want the stealership to do the install?

Joe@ZSpeed · 06-26-2015, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by schellingr

I wonder how much total in Labor will a stealearship charge to swap the crappy CSC with a Zspeed?

The majority of dealership mechanics are lets just say not somebody I would want working on my car, There are some good ones out there for sure but for the most part if its not "OEM" they don't want to deal with it because the have no knowledge of anything besides what they learned in "Nissan training"

There are good shops around most areas familiar with the Z cars, Find one here or on local car forums.
Most shops charge 4-5 hours for the slave and another 1 hour for the master cylinder.

Some recommended shops we deal with and are familiar with Nissan/Infiniti
Not totally familiar with all of these shops but most are ones we deal with regularly so do your homework
* Highly Recommended by our customers, Meaning we have had positive feedback from our customers buying parts from us and having them installed at these shops. If they are not marked just means we have not received any feedback from customers going there.
Vandalia, Ohio ZSpeed Performance (Me) *
Elkridge, MD Hills Garage *
San Jose, CA Z Car Garage
Whittier, CA 9K Racing
Tampa, FL Vantage Auto *
Danbury, CT RDZ Motorsports *
Wilmington, NC National Speed
Houston, TX JTran Studios
Houston, TX Houston Z Auto
Phoenix, AZ Pitstop Performance
Chatsworth, CA Specialty-Z *
Soddy Daisy, TN Custom Concept Motorpsorts*
Hamilton, Ohio Ramey Z*

KoolKarmaJoe · 06-26-2015, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe@ZSpeed

The majority of dealership mechanics are lets just say not somebody I would want working on my car, There are some good ones out there for sure but for the most part if its not "OEM" they don't want to deal with it because the have no knowledge of anything besides what they learned in "Nissan training"

There are good shops around most areas familiar with the Z cars, Find one here or on local car forums.
Most shops charge 4-5 hours for the slave and another 1 hour for the master cylinder.

Some recommended shops we deal with and are familiar with Nissan/Infiniti
Not totally familiar with all of these shops but most are ones we deal with regularly so do your homework
* Highly Recommended by our customers, Meaning we have had positive feedback from our customers buying parts from us and having them installed at these shops. If they are not marked just means we have not received any feedback from customers going there.
Vandalia, Ohio ZSpeed Performance (Me) *
Elkridge, MD Hills Garage *
San Jose, CA Z Car Garage
Whittier, CA 9K Racing
Tampa, FL Vantage Auto *
Danbury, CT RDZ Motorsports *
Wilmington, NC National Speed
Houston, TX JTran Studios
Houston, TX Houston Z Auto
Phoenix, AZ Pitstop Performance
Chatsworth, CA Specialty-Z *
Soddy Daisy, TN Custom Concept Motorpsorts*
Hamilton, Ohio Ramey Z*

Some shops just quote Service Manual for Labor Hours even though they finish sooner. And then there are those that hide Labor cost in inflated parts cost. Bottom line , a honest shop would be much more successful. And I'm sure all us on this forum would have no problem dealing with such a shop if we knew we were given a fair deal & straight answers to our questions. I really wish I resided nearer to ZSpeed. But for now I am greatful for the advice & help I have received from Joe Allison & staff at ZSpeed. "KUDO's To ZSpeed!"

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KoolKarmaJoe · 06-26-2015, 05:02 PM

I placed my order today with ZSpeed for ACT Stage 2 High Performance Clutch Kit with the ACT Steel Flywheel (17.5 lb) & Motul dot 4 race brake fluid, & transmission front gasket. I previously ordered the HD CSC, CMC, Motul Trans Fluid, Short Insulated Clutch line from ZSpeed. All work will be done by AAM Competition in Maryland. Additionally the trans, & clutch hydraulics will be flushed and new fluids put in place. I will put pics, video's, sound clips, & updates, etc of same on this thread. I will list Pro's & Con's fairly. My preference is performance based, which may not be the needs of someone that just is daily commuter.

Zbrah · 06-26-2015, 01:44 PM

I'm having my regular shop to perform the work...No Nissan dealer will ever put hands on my Z again.

I'll let you know how much they quote me, but keep in mind I am a regular customer and I also bring in business to them.

MagmaRed370z · 06-26-2015, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Zbrah

I'm having my regular shop to perform the work...No Nissan dealer will ever put hands on my Z again.

I'll let you know how much they quote me, but keep in mind I am a regular customer and I also bring in business to them.

Awesome. Let me know!

jwick · 06-26-2015, 02:55 PM

Houston, TX

I'd add Awesome Z to that list. They installed my clutch and ZSpeed HD CSC and I've had zero issues. They also did my whiteline diff bushing and did a great job.

They are a Nissan approved service shop.

06-26-2015, 05:02 PM	#12 (permalink)
KoolKarmaJoe Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Baltimore MD Posts: 417 Drives: 09' Nissan 370Z R M6 Rep Power: 13	I placed my order today with ZSpeed for ACT Stage 2 High Performance Clutch Kit with the ACT Steel Flywheel (17.5 lb) & Motul dot 4 race brake fluid, & transmission front gasket. I previously ordered the HD CSC, CMC, Motul Trans Fluid, Short Insulated Clutch line from ZSpeed. All work will be done by AAM Competition in Maryland. Additionally the trans, & clutch hydraulics will be flushed and new fluids put in place. I will put pics, video's, sound clips, & updates, etc of same on this thread. I will list Pro's & Con's fairly. My preference is performance based, which may not be the needs of someone that just is daily commuter. __________________ "Joe" AAM True 3" Duals / Whiteline Bars & Rear Links / Tanabe Sustec Pro / Mishimoto Oil Cooler / Michelin Pilot SS ACT HD Pressure Plate / ACT Performance Disc / ACT Streetlite Flywheel / ZSpeed HD CSC on GTR Fluid.

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Zbrah A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2013 Location: The370Z.com Posts: 4,956 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 5454	I'm having my regular shop to perform the work...No Nissan dealer will ever put hands on my Z again. I'll let you know how much they quote me, but keep in mind I am a regular customer and I also bring in business to them. __________________

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jwick A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Houston Posts: 14,532 Drives: '10 G37 6MT Rep Power: 2465058	Sticky: (Official) 370Z Clutch Pressure (CSC) Failures Houston, TX I'd add Awesome Z to that list. They installed my clutch and ZSpeed HD CSC and I've had zero issues. They also did my whiteline diff bushing and did a great job. They are a Nissan approved service shop. __________________ '10 G37T 6MT Graphite/Graphite - BP - G37T Build Last edited by jwick; 06-26-2015 at 04:41 PM.

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