[OFFICIAL] Manual v. Automatic Thread

jpkirk · 10-07-2015, 12:32 PM

Here we go!

Lemers · 10-07-2015, 12:40 PM

No no no it says hitler right there in your post.

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FPenvy · 10-07-2015, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick

I see you are from Turkey so I'll help you. Nothing that comes out of Presto's mouth is serious. All of it is to lead you into whatever end joke he has in mind. Sometimes, meaning almost always, they are distasteful but you'll get used to it.

He's a hero is his own mind

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemers

No no no it says hitler right there in your post.

2016 GT350 Magnetic w/Black Stripes / Black Roof /Tech Package ETA Feb (US Port) under MSRP

^^^

he still doesn't get the joke

jwick it's a lost cause.

and read the bottom of his sig. driving LTZ until he leaves for turkey. makes me assumes he's American?

D.Stillwell · 10-07-2015, 12:49 PM

^^ lol

I'll just say this, regardless of how good the autos are nowadays...Every single car purist always picks manual...even Porsche (which you mentioned) said they will keep offering cars with manual only for the true enthusiast drivers out there...

Only thing an auto might be better for is SLIGHTLY faster straight line acceleration...nothing else, and it takes no skill to mash the gas pedal or push a paddle to shift..

I say that owning a 4AT Maxima with TransGo shift kit, so I'm not hating.

It's kind of like the dudes driving AWD Subie STI's thinking they can drive good and handle...but get into a proper RWD car and crash. And also get taken by any Z with proper driver in both straight line or esp. in the twisties.

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FPenvy · 10-07-2015, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by D.Stillwell

^^ lol

I'll just say this, regardless of how good the autos are nowadays...Every single car purist always picks manual...even Porsche (which you mentioned) said they will keep offering cars with manual only for the true enthusiast drivers out there...

Only thing an auto might be better for is SLIGHTLY faster straight line acceleration...nothing else, and it takes no skill to mash the gas pedal or push a paddle to shift..

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the auto still does well in twisties not just the straight line portion. just fyi lol

abm89 · 10-07-2015, 12:53 PM

The difference in shift time between an automatic and a manual won't matter on a circuit.

Also using a manual successfully on a track is far more rewarding that pulling some plastic paddles. All of our fastest Z times on our local track are set by 6MT at the moment.

warpeacelove · 10-07-2015, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by abm89

The difference in shift time between an automatic and a manual won't matter on a circuit.

Also using a manual successfully on a track is far more rewarding that pulling some plastic paddles. All of our fastest Z times on our local track are set by 6MT at the moment.

Lies!!!!!

Furthermore key word your track. And like I aforementioned before equip both Z's (Auto/Manual) with the same power lets see who will have the fastest time and who will win.....

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FPenvy · 10-07-2015, 12:55 PM

i love how the MT defense is always "the feeling is more rewarding playing with my little stick"

yea well going full blast grabbing paddles feels great (and much safer) than you fondling a stick.

and my success rate in shifting in the AT is 100% bitches lol

abm89 · 10-07-2015, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

i love how the MT defense is always "the feeling is more rewarding playing with my little stick"

yea well going full blast grabbing paddles feels great (and much safer) than you fondling a stick.

and my success rate in shifting in the AT is 100% bitches lol

Well if you want to put this to the test we can arrange a track session for you to back up your impressive confidence.

I know we're hosting a Z only track day later this year. if you can beat my times, i'll gladly leave this forum. Hell, I'll even keep my used RE-11s on my tiny little "bitch 18s" that you referred to in another thread.

FPenvy · 10-07-2015, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by abm89

Well if you want to put this to the test we can arrange a track session for you to back up impressive confidence.

I know we're hosting a Z only track day later this year. if you can beat my times, i'll gladly leave this forum. Hell, I'll even keep my used RE-11s on my tiny little "bitch 18s" that you referred to in another thread.

yea let me drive 20 hours to texas to do that. good try

it's not worth my time nor money to do that

abm89 · 10-07-2015, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

yea let me drive 20 hours to texas to do that. good try

it's not worth my time nor money to do that

Oil prices are down, i think you'll be okay. Besides, don't you want to test that insane 324rwhp against our slow *** cars?

FPenvy · 10-07-2015, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by abm89

Oil prices are down, i think you'll be okay. Besides, don't you want to test that insane 324rwhp against our slow *** cars?

i would love to run with you but again it's not worth my time to make that drive just to do some laps with you and go home.

taunt and jab if you want but you know you it's stupid.

kenchan · 10-07-2015, 12:59 PM

wtf is this thread..

jpkirk · 10-07-2015, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

wtf is this thread..

It's a bitch slapping contest. The MT guys use a stick and the AT guys have paddles. It seems like people should be tied up in the soundproofed basement of someplace in the North of England.

burntz · 10-07-2015, 01:01 PM

Having had a 6MT 350z for 10.5 years then going to the 7AT for the 370z:

Paddle shifters=fun

But for routine commute I mostly drive left handed so upshifting is a hassle...

The problem with spirited 7AT driving is late braking for a corner and being sure you've downshifted from 5th to 2nd keeping an eye on the apex and not having to look down at the read out to be sure the computer let you do what you think you did.
What I need is for (should I patent this thought?) the automatic to have a manual mode SHIFT pattern, a drive by wire shifter to go with the d-by- wire throttle!

Come on aftermarket!!

10-07-2015, 12:32 PM	#1 (permalink)
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Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 53	No no no it says hitler right there in your post. 2016 GT350 Magnetic w/Black Stripes / Black Roof /Tech Package ETA Feb (US Port) under MSRP __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

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abm89 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 1,390 Drives: 11 370Z, 2x Kawasaki Rep Power: 64764	The difference in shift time between an automatic and a manual won't matter on a circuit. Also using a manual successfully on a track is far more rewarding that pulling some plastic paddles. All of our fastest Z times on our local track are set by 6MT at the moment. __________________ Complete Parts List: https://github.com/abm89/ztouge-build

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D.Stillwell Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Snakeden Branch, VA Posts: 396 Drives: Fairlady Z34/6MT Rep Power: 19	^^ lol I'll just say this, regardless of how good the autos are nowadays...Every single car purist always picks manual...even Porsche (which you mentioned) said they will keep offering cars with manual only for the true enthusiast drivers out there... Only thing an auto might be better for is SLIGHTLY faster straight line acceleration...nothing else, and it takes no skill to mash the gas pedal or push a paddle to shift.. I say that owning a 4AT Maxima with TransGo shift kit, so I'm not hating. It's kind of like the dudes driving AWD Subie STI's thinking they can drive good and handle...but get into a proper RWD car and crash. And also get taken by any Z with proper driver in both straight line or esp. in the twisties. Sent from my SM-G860P using Tapatalk

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burntz Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: central florida Posts: 114 Drives: 15 370 Sport 7AT Rep Power: 17	Having had a 6MT 350z for 10.5 years then going to the 7AT for the 370z: Paddle shifters=fun But for routine commute I mostly drive left handed so upshifting is a hassle... The problem with spirited 7AT driving is late braking for a corner and being sure you've downshifted from 5th to 2nd keeping an eye on the apex and not having to look down at the read out to be sure the computer let you do what you think you did. What I need is for (should I patent this thought?) the automatic to have a manual mode SHIFT pattern, a drive by wire shifter to go with the d-by- wire throttle! Come on aftermarket!!