another cooler explosion

B1nks · 04-07-2010, 10:46 PM

I will be purchasing the AE Performance cooler even though it's a GRIP.

iceman21_23 · 04-07-2010, 11:45 PM

ive a diy modshack cooler with the push on fittings since early October ive done a 100 miles on the track and almost 5k miles later and it's still going strong

NYBladeZ · 04-08-2010, 08:19 AM

It seems that GTM needs a new manufacturer for their cooler lines, I'll be getting one as soon as my tax return check comes in, if they don't revamp their cooler lines by then I'll be forced to pay more and go with Stillen.

Vegitto-kun · 04-08-2010, 08:21 AM

Yeah unless they resolve these problems with the hoses il have to look for stillen or a other company

1slow370 · 04-09-2010, 03:14 AM

yeah i love the thermostatic plate and the setrab core but the lines are crap.

As for my new lines, going to be getting an industrial diesel mechanic friend of mine to assemble my new extremely super "this crap is never happening again" overkill to the max lines made form Gates G2XH 2 wire stainless braided high pressure high temperature hydraulic line rated for temps over 300 degrees and pressures over 4000psi, people are usually maimed or killed when one of these babies goes, assembled with Gates Megacrimp fittings. If you plan on replacing your cooler lines with the same you will need to have a hydraulics shop equipped with at least an 8-ton hydraulic crimper assemble these badass MF'rs

part number for the hose 8g2xh part number for the fittings 8g-8fjx90s I wish an oil cooler kit came with these guys in the first place

TipsZ · 04-09-2010, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1slow370

yeah i love the thermostatic plate and the setrab core but the lines are crap.

As for my new lines, going to be getting an industrial diesel mechanic friend of mine to assemble my new extremely super "this crap is never happening again" overkill to the max lines made form Gates G2XH 2 wire stainless braided high pressure high temperature hydraulic line rated for temps over 300 degrees and pressures over 4000psi, people are usually maimed or killed when one of these babies goes, assembled with Gates Megacrimp fittings. If you plan on replacing your cooler lines with the same you will need to have a hydraulics shop equipped with at least an 8-ton hydraulic crimper assemble these badass MF'rs

part number for the hose 8g2xh part number for the fittings 8g-8fjx90s I wish an oil cooler kit came with these guys in the first place

I agree. Thanks for the info. I've been waiting since the 31st of March on the "new lines" from GTM and apparently they still have not even made the new ones. It is my assumption that they are doing their "due diligence" and actually looking for a new manufacture for the lines - but again that is just my assumption as to why it would take so long to get new lines in the mail.

Thus, time to find a Hydraulic shop here in Tampa.

JB-370z · 04-09-2010, 09:53 AM

The day I was going to buy an oil cooler was the day I saw another post with exploed lines. I am going to take a chill pill and let people rack up 20k in miles on a new set before I buy. I dont feel the need for it until I go turbo so not a big prob for me.

vipor · 04-09-2010, 09:58 AM

Cmon guys, just build your own kit like Modshack and myself did. Neither had problems. I opted for the Setrab core and facing the fittings up while he saved a few extra bucks.

Pre-mfg braided hoses that rub and cut through everything and seem to like to break, or badass Aeroquip Socketless hose that works great?

I think I have heard of one person having problems with an Aeroquip hose but it seemed isolated and might have just been a slack issue.

Yes, maybe this brand of hoses is having issues, but it's not GTM's doing (so long as everything is handled accordingly). Don't let something like this make you sway away from a cooler alltogether.

Modshack · 04-09-2010, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vipor

Cmon guys, just build your own kit like Modshack and myself did. Neither had problems.

.... Careful assembly is the Key. Unfortunately it seems that even buying a commercial kit and having it "professionally" installed does not guarantee this. Car and Driver reported this month that they had problems with the expensive, dealer installed Nissan Motorsports cooler and had to replace some hose ends. If you want to control the quality, choose the parts you want/need, and save $$ to boot, then roll your own. Check the DIY.

m4a1mustang · 04-09-2010, 10:04 AM

I am going to build a DIY kit but will probably get lines made at a hydraulic shop just to be safe... granted I am confident I could assemble the hoses correctly.

TipsZ · 04-09-2010, 01:51 PM

Sam from GTM just replied. They are taking their time with the hoses before he mails them back to me. I will just have to wait another week to get my lines.

SAM@GTM · 04-10-2010, 04:18 AM

Just to give you guys a quick update

All our lines are order pre-made and from a Russell performance distributor, these lines are supposed to be tested up to 300 psi before us getting them. We had done our own testing in the shop here and pressurized the hoses up to 175 psi for over 6 hours and we could not duplicate the failure. After taking some of the hoses apart we have discover that we might be getting some miss-matched parts between the socket and the nipple. which could be the cause of failure.

Also we have sent a couple of samples hoses to third party for further inspection, this company specialized in testing and certifying hydraulic hoses for the aerospace industry.

Mean while, we will not be shipping any oil cooler hoses from our current supplier. Not only that, we have completely switch supplier and all our hoses and fitting will be supplied by setrab themselves, so the whole oil cooler kit and it components comes from one supplier.

For our customer that are waiting on oil lines, we should be seeing those line sometime next week. Now for the customers that had already installed our kit and have no problem at this point but like to switch the oil lines for their peace of mind, we will be more then happy to do so at no cost to you .

We truly apologize for any inconvenience we may caused .

Sam

vipor · 04-10-2010, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAM@GTM

Just to give you guys a quick update

All our lines are order pre-made and from a Russell performance distributor, these lines are supposed to be tested up to 300 psi before us getting them. We had done our own testing in the shop here and pressurized the hoses up to 175 psi for over 6 hours and we could not duplicate the failure. After taking some of the hoses apart we have discover that we might be getting some miss-matched parts between the socket and the nipple. which could be the cause of failure.

Also we have sent a couple of samples hoses to third party for further inspection, this company specialized in testing and certifying hydraulic hoses for the aerospace industry.

Mean while, we will not be shipping any oil cooler hoses from our current supplier. Not only that, we have completely switch supplier and all our hoses and fitting will be supplied by setrab themselves, so the whole oil cooler kit and it components comes from one supplier.

For our customer that are waiting on oil lines, we should be seeing those line sometime next week. Now for the customers that had already installed our kit and have no problem at this point but like to switch the oil lines for their peace of mind, we will be more then happy to do so at no cost to you .

We truly apologize for any inconvenience we may caused .

Sam

Thanks for the good work Sam!

1slow370 · 04-11-2010, 02:16 PM

Now these are some fookin burst proof lines went to the napa got the lines and fittings and then he assembled them for me for free fittings are $14 dollars each and the line is $6.75 a foot

edit oh and the inside of the collar nut piece thing of the fitting that blew doesn't even have the anodizing worn off the teeth so i doubt it was grabbing the jacket with too much force

TipsZ · 04-12-2010, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAM@GTM

we have discover that we might be getting some miss-matched parts between the socket and the nipple. which could be the cause of failure...... Mean while, we will not be shipping any oil cooler hoses from our current supplier. Not only that, we have completely switch supplier and all our hoses and fitting will be supplied by setrab themselves, so the whole oil cooler kit and it components comes from one supplier.

For our customer that are waiting on oil lines, we should be seeing those line sometime next week. Now for the customers that had already installed our kit and have no problem at this point but like to switch the oil lines for their peace of mind, we will be more then happy to do so at no cost to you .

We truly apologize for any inconvenience we may caused .

Sam

Thank you for the update SAM. Class act indeed.

04-08-2010, 08:19 AM	#3 (permalink)
NYBladeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New York Posts: 2,158 Drives: Lotus Exige S Rep Power: 22	It seems that GTM needs a new manufacturer for their cooler lines, I'll be getting one as soon as my tax return check comes in, if they don't revamp their cooler lines by then I'll be forced to pay more and go with Stillen. __________________ 2009 Carbon Fiber/Red 370z aka Trish: Sports Package, Meisterschaft full catback, Fast Intentions Longtube Headers, Injen Long Tube Intakes, UpRev Tune: Sold 2008 Lotus Exige S Club Racer aka Bella, always leaves me smiling

04-09-2010, 03:14 AM	#5 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7252	yeah i love the thermostatic plate and the setrab core but the lines are crap. As for my new lines, going to be getting an industrial diesel mechanic friend of mine to assemble my new extremely super "this crap is never happening again" overkill to the max lines made form Gates G2XH 2 wire stainless braided high pressure high temperature hydraulic line rated for temps over 300 degrees and pressures over 4000psi, people are usually maimed or killed when one of these babies goes, assembled with Gates Megacrimp fittings. If you plan on replacing your cooler lines with the same you will need to have a hydraulics shop equipped with at least an 8-ton hydraulic crimper assemble these badass MF'rs part number for the hose 8g2xh part number for the fittings 8g-8fjx90s I wish an oil cooler kit came with these guys in the first place __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50 Last edited by 1slow370; 04-09-2010 at 04:19 AM.

04-09-2010, 09:53 AM	#7 (permalink)
JB-370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 1,859 Drives: Stage 2 Twin Turbos Rep Power: 21	The day I was going to buy an oil cooler was the day I saw another post with exploed lines. I am going to take a chill pill and let people rack up 20k in miles on a new set before I buy. I dont feel the need for it until I go turbo so not a big prob for me. __________________ ll Baker Tuning ll GTM ll Powerhouse Amuse ll HKS ll Up-Rev ll iForged ll AP Racing ll Pioneer ll SPL ll Bride ll Top Secret ll OS Giken ll GTM Stage 2 Twin Turboed 370z (First in Texas, Thanks To Baker Tuning)

04-09-2010, 09:58 AM	#8 (permalink)
vipor A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Euless, TX [ DFW ] Age: 43 Posts: 13,531 Drives: Nismo 09-0183 QAB Rep Power: 50	Cmon guys, just build your own kit like Modshack and myself did. Neither had problems. I opted for the Setrab core and facing the fittings up while he saved a few extra bucks. Pre-mfg braided hoses that rub and cut through everything and seem to like to break, or badass Aeroquip Socketless hose that works great? I think I have heard of one person having problems with an Aeroquip hose but it seemed isolated and might have just been a slack issue. Yes, maybe this brand of hoses is having issues, but it's not GTM's doing (so long as everything is handled accordingly). Don't let something like this make you sway away from a cooler alltogether. __________________ 2009 NISMO # 0193 \| QAB \| Albums! \| 05.04.10 (Dynojet) 291.94hp/248.28tq Oil Cooler (DIY) \| Custom Headlights \| GTSPEC Braces \| F.I. Long Tube Headers Last edited by vipor; 04-09-2010 at 10:02 AM.

04-09-2010, 10:04 AM	#10 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6964	I am going to build a DIY kit but will probably get lines made at a hydraulic shop just to be safe... granted I am confident I could assemble the hoses correctly. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

04-07-2010, 10:46 PM	#1 (permalink)
B1nks Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Houston,Tx Posts: 721 Drives: 2009 370Z Base 6MT Rep Power: 509	I will be purchasing the AE Performance cooler even though it's a GRIP.

04-07-2010, 11:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
iceman21_23 Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: league city, tx Posts: 757 Drives: 09' Solid Red 370z Rep Power: 19	ive a diy modshack cooler with the push on fittings since early October ive done a 100 miles on the track and almost 5k miles later and it's still going strong

04-08-2010, 08:21 AM	#4 (permalink)
Vegitto-kun A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: USA Posts: 2,011 Drives: 09 370Z Rep Power: 264	Yeah unless they resolve these problems with the hoses il have to look for stillen or a other company

04-09-2010, 01:51 PM	#11 (permalink)
TipsZ Track Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Lithia, FL Age: 52 Posts: 552 Drives: 09 Nissan 370z CS M6 Rep Power: 188	Sam from GTM just replied. They are taking their time with the hoses before he mails them back to me. I will just have to wait another week to get my lines. __________________ Dynojet 285 HP/245 TQ (pre CBE)// Agency Power CBE // GTM Test Pipes // JWT Pop Chargers // B&M Short Shifter // Eibach Springs // Powder-coated Akebono's // Powder-coated Strut Bar // Black Chromed 19" Rays // // Redline Designs Graphics TipsZ journal

04-10-2010, 04:18 AM	#12 (permalink)
SAM@GTM NOT AN ACTIVE SPONSOR. DO NOT BUY Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: CALIFORNIA Posts: 913 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 19	Just to give you guys a quick update All our lines are order pre-made and from a Russell performance distributor, these lines are supposed to be tested up to 300 psi before us getting them. We had done our own testing in the shop here and pressurized the hoses up to 175 psi for over 6 hours and we could not duplicate the failure. After taking some of the hoses apart we have discover that we might be getting some miss-matched parts between the socket and the nipple. which could be the cause of failure. Also we have sent a couple of samples hoses to third party for further inspection, this company specialized in testing and certifying hydraulic hoses for the aerospace industry. Mean while, we will not be shipping any oil cooler hoses from our current supplier. Not only that, we have completely switch supplier and all our hoses and fitting will be supplied by setrab themselves, so the whole oil cooler kit and it components comes from one supplier. For our customer that are waiting on oil lines, we should be seeing those line sometime next week. Now for the customers that had already installed our kit and have no problem at this point but like to switch the oil lines for their peace of mind, we will be more then happy to do so at no cost to you . We truly apologize for any inconvenience we may caused . Sam Last edited by SAM@GTM; 04-10-2010 at 05:00 AM.

04-11-2010, 02:16 PM	#14 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7252	Now these are some fookin burst proof lines went to the napa got the lines and fittings and then he assembled them for me for free fittings are $14 dollars each and the line is $6.75 a foot edit oh and the inside of the collar nut piece thing of the fitting that blew doesn't even have the anodizing worn off the teeth so i doubt it was grabbing the jacket with too much force __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50 Last edited by 1slow370; 04-11-2010 at 02:18 PM.

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