another cooler explosion

1slow370 · 04-07-2010, 02:44 AM

I can't find any reason for the line to have come out both lines have a ton of slack, and the picture shows the swaybar as high up as it goes as the suspension is fully unloaded and it's close but it doesn't even touch the lines.

Also the inside of the hose is totally smooth and doesn't show hardly any signs of having a single barb pressed into it. It isn't torn up at all but i'll tell you this the ID of the line looks much bigger than the barb fitting(i know it may have expanded but seriously it looks like the joint was barely held together at all).

1slow370 · 04-07-2010, 03:03 AM

i just hope my engine isn't damaged there may have been 2 minutes there when i costed into a parking lot where it was running after the line blew then i shut it off as soon as i got in the lot and called the tow. there can't have been much of any pressure in the oil system, i'm hoping i was saved by my oil being cold enough that the cooler was in bypass so there is a chance some oil was still going to the bearings.

Mike · 04-07-2010, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370

i just hope my engine isn't damaged there may have been 2 minutes there when i costed into a parking lot where it was running after the line blew then i shut it off as soon as i got in the lot and called the tow. there can't have been much of any pressure in the oil system, i'm hoping i was saved by my oil being cold enough that the cooler was in bypass so there is a chance some oil was still going to the bearings.

you said you still had two quarts left in the pan, right? If so, your engine should be fine. Oil should be flowing from the pickup tube, through the engine then out to the filter, right?

Modshack · 04-07-2010, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370

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I can't find any reason for the line to have come out both lines have a ton of slack, and the picture shows the swaybar as high up as it goes as the suspension is fully unloaded and it's close but it doesn't even touch the lines.

Also the inside of the hose is totally smooth and doesn't show hardly any signs of having a single barb pressed into it. It isn't torn up at all but i'll tell you this the ID of the line looks much bigger than the barb fitting(i know it may have expanded but seriously it looks like the joint was barely held together at all).

I'm sticking with my theory of incorrectly assembled hoses. BTW, the inside will be smooth and seem bigger as the screw in piece of the fitting (Nipple) is tapered and smooth. As it is tightened it presses the Stainless jacketed side out to engage with the barbs in the outer barrel. Done wrong (see step 3) and you have a problem...Since these are re-usable fittings, it is easy to unscrew the Nipple to check for proper hose engagement..

Zsteve · 04-07-2010, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

I'm sticking with my theory of incorrectly assembled hoses. BTW, the inside will be smooth and seem bigger as the screw in piece of the fitting (Nipple) is tapered and smooth. As it is tightened it presses the Stainless jacketed side out to engage with the barbs in the outer barrel. Done wrong (see step 3) and you have a problem...Since these are re-usable fittings, it is easy to unscrew the Nipple to check for proper hose engagement..

Steve, in your DIY, are there any special percaucions with the fittings i should be aware of before I install mine?

TipsZ · 04-07-2010, 09:33 PM

This looks exactly how my GTM hoses looked after it blew as well. When I last spoke to Sam, he said they would be reviewing their kit with the idea of making it into a "true" kit by providing installation instructions. I would assume that would include reviewing the lines as well. I am still awaiting the new GTM lines as well. They received my old lines on the 31st of March, and am assuming they are taking their time to get a hold of some new lines. I also heard that they might switch from the 45 degree fitting to 90 degree for all sides. I guess I will just have to continue to wait and see.

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Originally Posted by 1slow370

I can't find any reason for the line to have come out both lines have a ton of slack, and the picture shows the swaybar as high up as it goes as the suspension is fully unloaded and it's close but it doesn't even touch the lines.

Also the inside of the hose is totally smooth and doesn't show hardly any signs of having a single barb pressed into it. It isn't torn up at all but i'll tell you this the ID of the line looks much bigger than the barb fitting(i know it may have expanded but seriously it looks like the joint was barely held together at all).

m4a1mustang · 04-07-2010, 05:20 AM

Yikes. That looks exactly like the other GTM cooler failure we've seen.

Daishi · 04-07-2010, 10:29 AM

Looks like I'm not buying a cooler from gtm :/

Zsteve · 04-07-2010, 02:37 PM

Its about 65 to 70 outside and Im seeing 220 degrees easy right now with normal to an occasional burst here and there driving. So yea Im putting one one ASAP, already have the stuff just got to get to the car care center to put it on.

1slow370 · 04-07-2010, 02:40 PM

ah ok a different type of an fitting than what i've used in the past. Used these ones that looked like that except the nipple was barbed instead of tappered now it makes sense why the hose looks the way it does i don't want to take the lines or fittings apart until i talk to gtm about it.

Zsteve · 04-07-2010, 03:23 PM

besides the temp, would elevation/humidity be a factor in how quickly or how much it heats up?

FuszNissan · 04-07-2010, 03:34 PM

AAM had all my hoses made by Goodridge as well, and I have had zero issues.

semtex · 04-07-2010, 03:41 PM

Who makes the hoses in GTM's kit? I haven't had any problems with my cooler either, and I'm running Stillen's kit with the Goodridge hoses. And what about the Nissan Motorsports kit? Anyone know who makes the hoses in that one? Wouldn't it be interesting if both kits use the same hose supplier?

m4a1mustang · 04-07-2010, 03:57 PM

I am probably going to have a hydraulic shop put together the hoses for me.

FuszNissan · 04-07-2010, 09:36 PM

Hope they get you back on the road.

04-07-2010, 02:44 AM	#1 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7252	I can't find any reason for the line to have come out both lines have a ton of slack, and the picture shows the swaybar as high up as it goes as the suspension is fully unloaded and it's close but it doesn't even touch the lines. Also the inside of the hose is totally smooth and doesn't show hardly any signs of having a single barb pressed into it. It isn't torn up at all but i'll tell you this the ID of the line looks much bigger than the barb fitting(i know it may have expanded but seriously it looks like the joint was barely held together at all). __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

04-07-2010, 03:03 AM	#2 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7252	i just hope my engine isn't damaged there may have been 2 minutes there when i costed into a parking lot where it was running after the line blew then i shut it off as soon as i got in the lot and called the tow. there can't have been much of any pressure in the oil system, i'm hoping i was saved by my oil being cold enough that the cooler was in bypass so there is a chance some oil was still going to the bearings. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50 Last edited by 1slow370; 04-07-2010 at 03:06 AM.

04-07-2010, 05:20 AM	#7 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6964	Yikes. That looks exactly like the other GTM cooler failure we've seen. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

04-07-2010, 02:37 PM	#9 (permalink)
Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 23	Its about 65 to 70 outside and Im seeing 220 degrees easy right now with normal to an occasional burst here and there driving. So yea Im putting one one ASAP, already have the stuff just got to get to the car care center to put it on. __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette

04-07-2010, 02:40 PM	#10 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7252	ah ok a different type of an fitting than what i've used in the past. Used these ones that looked like that except the nipple was barbed instead of tappered now it makes sense why the hose looks the way it does i don't want to take the lines or fittings apart until i talk to gtm about it. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

04-07-2010, 10:29 AM	#8 (permalink)
Daishi Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 683 Drives: 09 370z 6Speed Rep Power: 18	Looks like I'm not buying a cooler from gtm :/

04-07-2010, 03:23 PM	#11 (permalink)
Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 23	besides the temp, would elevation/humidity be a factor in how quickly or how much it heats up? __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette

04-07-2010, 03:34 PM	#12 (permalink)
FuszNissan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 14,275 Drives: Pure Sex Rep Power: 544	AAM had all my hoses made by Goodridge as well, and I have had zero issues. __________________ Mods: Too Many to list! LouFuszNissan ZDAYZ 2012

04-07-2010, 03:41 PM	#13 (permalink)
semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 55 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 34	Who makes the hoses in GTM's kit? I haven't had any problems with my cooler either, and I'm running Stillen's kit with the Goodridge hoses. And what about the Nissan Motorsports kit? Anyone know who makes the hoses in that one? Wouldn't it be interesting if both kits use the same hose supplier? __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.

04-07-2010, 03:57 PM	#14 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6964	I am probably going to have a hydraulic shop put together the hoses for me. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

04-07-2010, 09:36 PM	#15 (permalink)
FuszNissan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 14,275 Drives: Pure Sex Rep Power: 544	Hope they get you back on the road. __________________ Mods: Too Many to list! LouFuszNissan ZDAYZ 2012

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