High Oil Temp = power + throttle response loss?

kannibul · 02-27-2010, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TARDCORE

jesus. heres what happened. I (me) driving around on back roads above the speed limit. yes i stated above the speed limit. i came upon 2 cars, one was tail gating the other. the speed limit is 45 mph and they were doing approximately 30. i passed them once it was LEGAL to pass them. when I was about to pass the S2K he gunned it. Since I had WOT I figured Id humor him but it didnt turn out that way. Then like 1 mile later the last part of the back road ends in an uphill straight. the civic was right behind me and I wanted to see if my Z would get away from it, it didnt. Thats what happened. the civic wasnt a race, i was already infront him him.

Furthermore, when I get pulled over for speeding, if and when the cop runs my plates he hands me back my info once he receives the information and tells me to slow down, no ticket, no questions, nothing.why? because I have more than likely backed that chippie or sherrif up in a vehicle stop and if not, I probably will eventually. so if I want to do a little spirited drive early in the morning, I am going to as long as traffic is light.

Ill post the vids as soon as I get home. In 5th gear at 60 mph is under 3K rpms and thats usually my normal drive through that area. I didnt expect to get flamed and I am asking for some knowledge on the matter but hey its a forum. And unfortuantely in my opinion, the Z as a stock car isnt what I expected it to be. I am thinking of buying another Oil Cooler from GTM and having them installing it which will more than likely solve my issue then hopefully I can go to cal speedway or willow springs with many of the forum members in so cal here.

So you're either a lawyer, a cop, or a judge...

Either way, you think you're above the law.

Thank you for being the problem instead of being the solution.

TARDCORE · 02-27-2010, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by kannibul

So you're either a lawyer, a cop, or a judge...

Either way, you think you're above the law.

Thank you for being the problem instead of being the solution.

actually im not any of those. So from what I have seen you post buddy, you apparently win professional track events. you are an experienced professional aftermarket installer, you are also quick to make stupid comments, and believe me that one above isnt going to make you any friends. So everyone meet Kannibul he is a good at everything, and knows it so he posts it on forums.

02-27-2010, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TARDCORE

the civic was right behind me and I wanted to see if my Z would get away from it, it didnt. Thats what happened. the civic wasnt a race, i was already infront him him..

So because you were already in front of the Civic means it wasnt a race? Wow this is news to me. Any time one car competes with another at high speeds it IS racing. BTW it just sounds like you cant drive.

TARDCORE · 02-27-2010, 12:16 PM

I work for DHS and I being in the same line of work, I meet a lot of LEO's from different agencies/departments and make friends or just acquaintences. So just because I say I went for a spirited drive its a bad thing? I have seen many people post that same thing on this site. Look at the thread about the stock lsd on this car. cmon people. I think since Im gettin rid of the Z at the end of the year I dont need to post on this site anymore since I know what I need to know. The Z stock isnt meant to be driven hard. And there is a big risk with fixing that problem and I hope my previous issue with the oil cooler has helped some people really think about that risk since its happened to 2 people on this site.

Edit: you all make it seem like im the bad guy here. look at blue's post. look at kannibul's. You guys r hilarious though I must admit

frost · 02-27-2010, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TARDCORE

You guys r hilarious though I must admit

Well, that's all that really matters.

serge · 02-27-2010, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by 6MT

My question is... why were you street racing?

He wasn't.

kannibul · 02-27-2010, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by serge

He wasn't.

Actaully, he was. He just didn't initiate it.

It's like saying I was just walking along and these two guys jumped out in front of me and told me to give them my money. they started to swing, and I fought back thinking I could win. I KO'd one guy, and the other guy put up a better fight, but I think I still got him.

Now, was he fighting? Yes. Did he start it? No.

So, he was racing. He could have dropepd out and let the other two guys have at it.

TARDCORE · 02-27-2010, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by kannibul

Actaully, he was. He just didn't initiate it.

It's like saying I was just walking along and these two guys jumped out in front of me and told me to give them my money. they started to swing, and I fought back thinking I could win. I KO'd one guy, and the other guy put up a better fight, but I think I still got him.

Now, was he fighting? Yes. Did he start it? No.

So, he was racing. He could have dropepd out and let the other two guys have at it.

thats actually a bit extreme for a comparrison. I mean thats being threatened with the small possibility of them just taking your money to the extreme possibilty of them taking your life. Maybe if they asked for your shirt? or a hair clipping?

1slow370 · 02-27-2010, 11:26 AM

it does have me curious what you do tardcore maybe first respondent not sure. other than that kannibul he is going to do what he is going to do and take it to PM's if you feel so upset about it and can't help with the oil problem. Those temps sound normal to me from what you're saying. Chances are you won't ever have another cooler explode on you so you might as well get another one only real fix for the problem. Oh and get a used oil anaylisis done at your ext change to check and see if you have major damage/wear from when it happened if not your probably golden.

kannibul · 02-28-2010, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by TARDCORE

thats actually a bit extreme for a comparrison. I mean thats being threatened with the small possibility of them just taking your money to the extreme possibilty of them taking your life. Maybe if they asked for your shirt? or a hair clipping?

Ever think of what would have happend should a deer have jumped out in the road while you were racing? The whole thing was about your ego and your pride.

If it didn't matter, then you wouldn't have been street racing. Had you gotten into an accident or a ticket, you would have raised all our insurance rates...meanwhile, according to you, this car isn't meant to be raced (so, why did you anyway?) so you're getting rid of it in a year. Way to **** in everyone's foxhole with that potential outcome.

theDreamer · 02-26-2010, 12:01 PM

Why does everyone think he was street racing?
He was passing two other cars that ended up street racing, he waited for the road to open and pass and they were waiting for the road to open to race.

kannibul · 02-27-2010, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Why does everyone think he was street racing?
He was passing two other cars that ended up street racing, he waited for the road to open and pass and they were waiting for the road to open to race.

Well, pretty simple, if you go to pass someone and they take off, you can decide not to participate and let off the gas.

If they slow down too and still won't let you pass, you can pull a .45 on them and that will distract them (because they'll have to look for their 9mm), meanwhile you can speed off and activate your stealth tech and get away.

Only one of those comments is sarcastic.

Zsteve · 02-26-2010, 12:05 PM

yea!!!! Im always passing cars.

tbonesteak · 02-26-2010, 01:36 PM

I guess I'll say it but yes, the Z feels significantly slower at hot oil temps. Running the car WOT at 180 vs 220 has a very very noticeable difference in acceleration and throttle response. I thought I was hallucinating so I performed a series of tests and my theory was correct. Like someone said, the Z really hates heat. In cold, it is such a champ tho.

I've owned an AP2 S2000 (the faster version in a straight line). The S2000 is a quick little car but you should definitely have beaten it by a big margin. When I used to run my s2k against 350Zs, i would slowly pull from away from the DE motors (03-04) but the HR ones (07-08) would completely OWN me. Not just once but exact same results with multiple cars and even driver changes. The 370 and the s2k aren't in the same performance class anymore, and i actually believe you when you said you couldn't pull away because at 260 degrees, my Z feels slower than my s2k felt.

DIGItonium · 02-27-2010, 09:35 AM

I do think the Z gets a bit sluggish when the motor gets hot regardless of oil temps especially on a hot summer day. I don't know if it has to do with fuel, but my oil temps rarely go above 220F. It feels sluggish after a long day of driving (work, errands, etc.).

Anyhow, it is quite enjoyable punching the throttle in 2nd :-)

02-27-2010, 12:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
TARDCORE Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 410 Drives: 2010 Solid Red 370Z Rep Power: 17	I work for DHS and I being in the same line of work, I meet a lot of LEO's from different agencies/departments and make friends or just acquaintences. So just because I say I went for a spirited drive its a bad thing? I have seen many people post that same thing on this site. Look at the thread about the stock lsd on this car. cmon people. I think since Im gettin rid of the Z at the end of the year I dont need to post on this site anymore since I know what I need to know. The Z stock isnt meant to be driven hard. And there is a big risk with fixing that problem and I hope my previous issue with the oil cooler has helped some people really think about that risk since its happened to 2 people on this site. Edit: you all make it seem like im the bad guy here. look at blue's post. look at kannibul's. You guys r hilarious though I must admit __________________ XBL:EVENTYDE

02-27-2010, 11:26 AM	#9 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7252	it does have me curious what you do tardcore maybe first respondent not sure. other than that kannibul he is going to do what he is going to do and take it to PM's if you feel so upset about it and can't help with the oil problem. Those temps sound normal to me from what you're saying. Chances are you won't ever have another cooler explode on you so you might as well get another one only real fix for the problem. Oh and get a used oil anaylisis done at your ext change to check and see if you have major damage/wear from when it happened if not your probably golden. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

02-26-2010, 12:01 PM	#11 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4212	Why does everyone think he was street racing? He was passing two other cars that ended up street racing, he waited for the road to open and pass and they were waiting for the road to open to race. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

02-26-2010, 12:05 PM	#13 (permalink)
Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 23	yea!!!! Im always passing cars. __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette

02-27-2010, 09:35 AM	#15 (permalink)
DIGItonium A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Kansas Posts: 3,800 Drives: 09 Z34-TT 6MT Rep Power: 44	I do think the Z gets a bit sluggish when the motor gets hot regardless of oil temps especially on a hot summer day. I don't know if it has to do with fuel, but my oil temps rarely go above 220F. It feels sluggish after a long day of driving (work, errands, etc.). Anyhow, it is quite enjoyable punching the throttle in 2nd :-) __________________

02-26-2010, 01:36 PM	#14 (permalink)
tbonesteak Track Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 914 Drives: MY09 MB 6MT Rep Power: 377	I guess I'll say it but yes, the Z feels significantly slower at hot oil temps. Running the car WOT at 180 vs 220 has a very very noticeable difference in acceleration and throttle response. I thought I was hallucinating so I performed a series of tests and my theory was correct. Like someone said, the Z really hates heat. In cold, it is such a champ tho. I've owned an AP2 S2000 (the faster version in a straight line). The S2000 is a quick little car but you should definitely have beaten it by a big margin. When I used to run my s2k against 350Zs, i would slowly pull from away from the DE motors (03-04) but the HR ones (07-08) would completely OWN me. Not just once but exact same results with multiple cars and even driver changes. The 370 and the s2k aren't in the same performance class anymore, and i actually believe you when you said you couldn't pull away because at 260 degrees, my Z feels slower than my s2k felt.

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