NEW Clutch not Engaging...Money Pit

DaveZ03

So there is a bit to dissect here....what's the name of the shop? Did you decide or did the shop decide to go with the JWT? I'm not entirely familiar with it, but a lot of folks around here recommend the ZSpeed or similar CSC. Have you thought about moving on from the JWT HD CSC? It looks similar to the OEM CSC where the slave is built into the housing.
Why did you go to a different shop? Was the first go around enough to tarnish your trust in them?
Maybe the pressure plate that comes in the Z1 kit and the JWT CSC aren't playing nice with each other?

Spaghetti999

small local shop, not a performance shop. Just a regular mechanic
Chose a different shop for the flush/clutch line because trust was shattered.

If the parts aren't compatible, that makes sense. But why the dirty fluid and loss of fluid too? That's two separate problems sounds like I could've chose a wrong combo of parts and the shop didn't properly flush/get containments out of the system the first time?

I chose the parts. Now I have my 2nd order of parts for the 2nd installation and have decided to go with ZSpeed CSC Delete, Their clutch kit, and OEM CMC

I will be reinstalling all parts myself (Goodluck me). Parts are ready, I am not. Before I dive in, I'm wondering if I should just swap the CMC+Flush fluid and hope it works, or not bother and just do the entire reinstall again myself?

DaveZ03

Sucks to hear about the first install not going well, I know it can be a tough pill to swallow to invest in parts/time at shop, only to be back where you started. The ZSpeed parts should get you situated nicely.
As far as the install, do your research and get all of the needed tools to tackle the job. I don't have the space to tackle it myself, but there are plenty of videos out there outlining what is needed and the steps to take in order to do this yourself.
Look up "The Carizon" on youtube and search on the channel for clutch install. Great breakdown of tools needed and what to look for when tackling this yourself. Best of luck and take your time.

40 to 332

A couple of things:

1. Confirm with Z Speed that the CMAK CSC delete kit and their clutch kit is compatible with the stock dual mass flywheel. If I recall correctly there was a need to modify the clutch disk if it was the be matched with the stock flywheel. I avoided the issue by installing the Southbend singe mass flywheel (... and now just ignore the gear chatter). Anyway, it would be worth a phone call or chat with Z Speed.

2. If you're going to all the work of changing the clutch system, I'd recommended contacting Ryan at RJM Performance and moving from the OEM CMC to to the Tilton HD CMC. It will make the system bullet-proof.

NorthStyle

Unfortunately, the Tilton is not "bulletproof" as I had one fail on me a few years back. I had planned on purchasing a replacement but Joe (ZSpeed pre-retirement) advised me to go back to stock.

OP, back to your issues, I'd recommend replacing the black hose that the CMC uses with one of the clear hoses that Mike Upton sells if you have to mess with the CMC again. The black one breaks down and contaminates the fluid, reducing the life of the CMC.

ZoomZ

If you use OEM clutch pressure plate and OEM FW with Zspeed CMAK, you have to cut the overcenter spring on the OEM Clutch PRESSURE PLATE.

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dshaw340

The new OEM pressure plate does not have this ring on the $400 one but on the $1200 one it does. So if you are just going to cut it off, well.....