New clutch time

Rusty · 05-28-2019, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

Well, the above is a load of crap. I have driven for years with an aluminum flywheel that has steel frictions. It works just fine. I am not sure where folks got that from. Guess it is internet rumor.

As far as what clutch to get, that is so hard to say. Everyone has their own expectations. Call Joe at Zspeed and talk to him since he deals with this stuff constantly.

Hey crappy head. I got my info from some track rats. First hand.

Spooler · 05-28-2019, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

Hey crappy head. I got my info from some track rats. First hand.

Like I said, I have done it for years. Never had one issue driving one on the street.

BettyZ · 05-28-2019, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

Like I said, I have done it for years. Never had one issue driving one on the street.

Yessss, Flywheel War IV! I'll keep it going: I have a Grok Industries millstone in my Flintstonemobile and haven't had a problem since 5100 B.C.

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-ZS-Carpenter · 05-28-2019, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BettyZ

Yessss, Flywheel War IV!

This is turning into a **** show. I'm going to grab some popcorn and ask a few more questions

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Spooler · 05-28-2019, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by -ZS-Carpenter

This is turning into a **** show. I'm going to grab some popcorn and ask a few more questions

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It was not meant to be. This is my personal experience. Not a he said she said.

-ZS-Carpenter · 05-28-2019, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

It was not meant to be. This is my personal experience. Not a he said she said.

It's all good. I'm sure I could run the aluminum JWT FW just fine, I just have no need for saving the extra pound vs the cost and longevity. If i had time to get in on more track days maybe. But right now I'll be alright.

I sent an email to Joe giving him the breakdown on what i do and a parts list of what i want. If he tosses a red flag on something I'll let you guys go at it again

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Originally Posted by SPDKING

Call Z Speed, they literally make BOTH of them and did testing on both of them. It was the Owner of L Spec in California that talked about the CMAK issues and Z Speed recommending the HD CSC over the CMAK when I was planning on getting the CMAK. That was a while ago and so I don't have links for you except those two companies

I'm guessing it was quite a while ago since there is not one complete clutch kit on Zspeeds page that does not have the v3 cmak. There is not one kit with the HDCSC. I know the first run of them had a few issues that had to be worked out but the v3 has more than proven itself to be the go to for relocation.

I have an email sent off to Joe. We'll see what he has to say. My money is on the cmak.

SPDKING · 05-28-2019, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by -ZS-Carpenter

I'm guessing it was quite a while ago since there is not one complete clutch kit on Zspeeds page that does not have the v3 cmak. There is not one kit with the HDCSC. I know the first run of them had a few issues that had to be worked out but the v3 has more than proven itself to be the go to for relocation.

I have an email sent off to Joe. We'll see what he has to say. My money is on the cmak.

You buy them separately of course https://zspeed.com/product/zspeed-pe...-cylinder-csc/

https://conceptzperformance.com/jim-...ktb_p_2423.php

Or you could buy the clutch kit and HD CSC (or CMAK) at Concept Z and get reward cash since this is a big purchase. So you can get something else in the future with a few bucks off. And yes it has been awhile, and you know who's CSC hasn't failed after so long? This guy <<<

Rusty · 05-28-2019, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

Like I said, I have done it for years. Never had one issue driving one on the street.

Ok, I'm home now, and not distracted. Last year at a trackday. Was talking to a couple of other drivers. The subject of aluminum flywheels come up. The consensus was that they are great for the track. For street use. There is more slipping of the clutch to get moving because of lack of inertia. You have to change your driving style for it. In stop and go traffic. This extra slipping has lead to deep heat spots on the friction ring. A couple guys said that it affected disk life and feel for the clutch. 3 said that they switched back to steel. The other 4 still running the aluminum. But these guys change the friction ring on a regular schedule. The one guy had a pic on his phone and the friction ring was a solid blue. To turn blue. That's about 650F to 750F.

Spooler · 05-28-2019, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

Ok, I'm home now, and not distracted. Last year at a trackday. Was talking to a couple of other drivers. The subject of aluminum flywheels come up. The consensus was that they are great for the track. For street use. There is more slipping of the clutch to get moving because of lack of inertia. You have to change your driving style for it. In stop and go traffic. This extra slipping has lead to deep heat spots on the friction ring. A couple guys said that it affected disk life and feel for the clutch. 3 said that they switched back to steel. The other 4 still running the aluminum. But these guys change the friction ring on a regular schedule. The one guy had a pic on his phone and the friction ring was a solid blue. To turn blue. That's about 650F to 750F.

Hmm, guess I drive different. I am on and off the clutch quick. I don't slip it much at all.

Rusty · 05-28-2019, 09:21 PM

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