ZSpeed Performance "CMAK" Review

Jayhovah · 08-23-2016, 04:35 PM

aside from bleeding, what is the advantage of this over the HD CSC?

ban25 · 08-25-2016, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhovah

aside from bleeding, what is the advantage of this over the HD CSC?

Ease and cost of maintenance, for sure. I also have the external slave mod.

Joe@ZSpeed · 08-25-2016, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhovah

aside from bleeding, what is the advantage of this over the HD CSC?

Really bleeding is pretty simple on both so long as the master is new or in good condition.

Advantages to this are it is cheaper in the long run, Less to no maintenance, fluid stays clean, replacement/Maintenance parts are much cheaper. Basically if you have the clutch replaced in the future it is less than $25 for the CMAK Replacement release bearing VS the HD slave rebuild at $175

Overall CMAK will be more durable in the long run although the HD Slave has held up very well over the last 7-8 years we've had it out.

jcosta79 · 08-25-2016, 04:57 PM

The guys at Jotech are putting in my Stage 2 kit as we speak. Can't wait to try it out.

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jcosta79 · 08-26-2016, 12:35 PM

Well, just heard that the guys were so impressed by how it drives that Jotech wants to start stocking the CMAK. *cough* *you're welcome* *cough*

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Joe@ZSpeed · 08-26-2016, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jcosta79

Well, just heard that the guys were so impressed by how it drives that Jotech wants to start stocking the CMAK. *cough* *you're welcome* *cough*

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That's Awesome! The ZSpeed Stage 2 Quite kit with the CMAK is pretty impressive (if I do say so myself)

lj909 · 08-26-2016, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe@ZSpeed

That's Awesome! The ZSpeed Stage 2 Quite kit with the CMAK is pretty impressive (if I do say so myself)

What would you say the difference is between the flywheel options are 26lb nodular iron and the DxD 19lb billet steel. Noise, performance, durability. ..

Joe@ZSpeed · 08-26-2016, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by lj909

What would you say the difference is between the flywheel options are 26lb nodular iron and the DxD 19lb billet steel. Noise, performance, durability. ..

With the quiet kit clutch idle noise will be pretty much non-existent, In the low RPM range, under 2500 rpm you can get a light rattle if you are on the gas which goes immediately away once you are over 2300-2500 rpm, This is slightly better with the 26lb but for the difference in performance I would stay with the lighter units, ZSP 17lb, 20lb Billet or SBC 19lb as they add a lot of performance gain.

Jsolo · 08-26-2016, 01:50 PM

This is one of those instances when reinventing the wheel results in an inferior product. The traditional fork/clutch release has been used for many decades on a multitude of vehicles. Perhaps the only possible benefits to the csc is it's cheaper to manufacture/fewer parts. Reliability is somewhere on the criteria list but nowhere near the top. While there are some that fail early on, most have issues after the 3yr/36Kmi warranty as run out.

The bean counters at nissan did the math and figured out they still come ahead.

jcosta79 · 08-26-2016, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe@ZSpeed

With the quiet kit clutch idle noise will be pretty much non-existent, In the low RPM range, under 2500 rpm you can get a light rattle if you are on the gas which goes immediately away once you are over 2300-2500 rpm, This is slightly better with the 26lb but for the difference in performance I would stay with the lighter units, ZSP 17lb or SBC 19lb as they add a lot of performance gain.

I can vouch for this. I have the Stage 2 quiet clutch and 18.5 lb Z Speed lightweight flywheel, and I can't hear any chatter. None.

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RafPR · 06-28-2017, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe@ZSpeed

With the quiet kit clutch idle noise will be pretty much non-existent, In the low RPM range, under 2500 rpm you can get a light rattle if you are on the gas which goes immediately away once you are over 2300-2500 rpm, This is slightly better with the 26lb but for the difference in performance I would stay with the lighter units, ZSP 17lb or SBC 19lb as they add a lot of performance gain.

I just called Joe@ZSpeed, and he clarified my doubts... Just finished placing the order for the ZSP Stage 1 Street Quiet Clutch + Flywheel + CMAK CSC DELETE... I chose the ZSP Forged Steel 17lbs Flywheel.

Final add-ons will be Fast Intentions Non-resonated CBE + Fast Intentions Resonated Test Pipes + K&N Typhoon and the ZSP Kit ordered.

As soon as it is install, I will do the reflash. Let see how it performs!!!!!

Thanks Joe and the ZSpeed Crew!!!!

nafir alvarez · 01-30-2018, 11:45 PM

Raf I'm going to get the same exact setup you described. Just to have an idea how much was the labor to instal the Stage 1 quite clutch + Flywheel + CMAK CSC Delete together.

08-25-2016, 04:57 PM	#19 (permalink)
jcosta79 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: N/A Posts: 1,430 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 14	The guys at Jotech are putting in my Stage 2 kit as we speak. Can't wait to try it out. Sent from my SM-N930T using Tapatalk __________________ 2012 PW NISMO #0559 - GT Spec Brace Kit - Swift Springs - ARK TP & Invidia CBE K&N Intake - UpRev Tune - 15mm Z1 Spacers & Studs - StopTech Slotted Rotors & SS Lines - ZSpeed CMAK with Stage 2 Clutch and Lightweight Flywheel

08-26-2016, 12:35 PM	#20 (permalink)
jcosta79 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: N/A Posts: 1,430 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 14	Well, just heard that the guys were so impressed by how it drives that Jotech wants to start stocking the CMAK. cough you're welcome cough Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk Joe@ZSpeed likes this. __________________ 2012 PW NISMO #0559 - GT Spec Brace Kit - Swift Springs - ARK TP & Invidia CBE K&N Intake - UpRev Tune - 15mm Z1 Spacers & Studs - StopTech Slotted Rotors & SS Lines - ZSpeed CMAK with Stage 2 Clutch and Lightweight Flywheel

08-26-2016, 01:50 PM	#24 (permalink)
Jsolo Track Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: chicago Posts: 783 Drives: '12 G37 6MT Rep Power: 14	This is one of those instances when reinventing the wheel results in an inferior product. The traditional fork/clutch release has been used for many decades on a multitude of vehicles. Perhaps the only possible benefits to the csc is it's cheaper to manufacture/fewer parts. Reliability is somewhere on the criteria list but nowhere near the top. While there are some that fail early on, most have issues after the 3yr/36Kmi warranty as run out. The bean counters at nissan did the math and figured out they still come ahead. __________________ G37S Sedan 6MT, Eibach swaybars, Invidia Exhaust, Weaker Clutch Pedal Spring For sale links

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nafir alvarez Base Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Connecticut Posts: 44 Drives: 370Z NISMO Rep Power: 12	Raf I'm going to get the same exact setup you described. Just to have an idea how much was the labor to instal the Stage 1 quite clutch + Flywheel + CMAK CSC Delete together.