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How are the oem coolers that come with the newer models? Would they fit an 09? (Direct bolt on) A little concerned today about getting one now as this morning

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Old 08-06-2016, 09:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
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How are the oem coolers that come with the newer models? Would they fit an 09? (Direct bolt on)

A little concerned today about getting one now as this morning (430am) it was a chilly 55 degrees. Atleast chilly for me due to having dealt with triple digits for a few months and 80 degree mornings for a while..

Oil was showing 190 degrees for a 30 minute freeway commute with lots of 4th-7th gear changes. I feel like thats too cold? Please correct me if im wrong. I would like an ideal temp of 200-215


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How are the oem coolers that come with the newer models? Would they fit an 09? (Direct bolt on)

A little concerned today about getting one now as this morning (430am) it was a chilly 55 degrees. Atleast chilly for me due to having dealt with triple digits for a few months and 80 degree mornings for a while..

Oil was showing 190 degrees for a 30 minute freeway commute with lots of 4th-7th gear changes. I feel like thats too cold? Please correct me if im wrong. I would like an ideal temp of 200-215


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The new cooler is the one that the other poster was referring to as a stabilizer. It is really a water to oil cooler and they do work and for general street use I think it would be fine. They do cool the oil vs no cooler but they are not as efficient as air to oil. I imaging you could install one in an earlier model but the install would most likely be more expensive and more difficult to install than just a 19 row cooler. You would have to get the cooler, the new filter stud, the hoses, coolant, and the coolant hard lines. Really not worth it.
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The oil temperature gauge reads low with a cooler installed because it is measuring the temperature of the oil coming out of the cooler. This means your 190F oil temp is really around 210F. Also note that the ECU will start to pull timing as early as 230F. There's really no need to worry about your oil being too cold in California.


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How are the oem coolers that come with the newer models? Would they fit an 09? (Direct bolt on)

A little concerned today about getting one now as this morning (430am) it was a chilly 55 degrees. Atleast chilly for me due to having dealt with triple digits for a few months and 80 degree mornings for a while..

Oil was showing 190 degrees for a 30 minute freeway commute with lots of 4th-7th gear changes. I feel like thats too cold? Please correct me if im wrong. I would like an ideal temp of 200-215


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The oil temperature gauge reads low with a cooler installed because it is measuring the temperature of the oil coming out of the cooler. This means your 190F oil temp is really around 210F. Also note that the ECU will start to pull timing as early as 230F. There's really no need to worry about your oil being too cold in California.


This was with no cooler. Im interested in a 19 as it seems like the smallest i can find that comes with a kit w/out building or retrofitting anything..
This morninf was 65degrees, ran about 195 and not over 200 for a 30 minute commute.




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If you are thinking about tracking in the future. A 34 row from Z1 or FI, end of story. If you are just DD. A 25 row would be your best bet.
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If you are thinking about tracking in the future. A 34 row from Z1 or FI, end of story. If you are just DD. A 25 row would be your best bet.
This, 100%. Just to put it in perspective, I'm seriously thinking of adding a *second* 34-row cooler....
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I just installed a 34 row from Z1 a couple weeks ago. 2014 Touring/Sport, essentially stock, my DD and autocross/HPDE warrior.

I left the stock oil to water cooler because I didn't have the non-cooler filter stud. If you leave the stock cooler, you will have a tough time getting the lines installed and the oil filter in place. There is very little room for the tiny stock filter with the Z1 cooler plate and the stock cooler plate installed; forget about putting a taller filter there. I am going to remove the stock cooler soon and bypass the coolant loop.

I ran a track event in NC last weekend, with temps around 95 and ridiculous humidity. Oil temperature topped out around 230 during each 20 minute session, and quickly dropped to 180 after coming off track and turning the A/C on. I was trying to keep up with the C6s in the twisties and keep the STIs in the rearwiew, so I was not being easy on it at all
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I just installed a 34 row from Z1 a couple weeks ago. 2014 Touring/Sport, essentially stock, my DD and autocross/HPDE warrior.



I left the stock oil to water cooler because I didn't have the non-cooler filter stud. If you leave the stock cooler, you will have a tough time getting the lines installed and the oil filter in place. There is very little room for the tiny stock filter with the Z1 cooler plate and the stock cooler plate installed; forget about putting a taller filter there. I am going to remove the stock cooler soon and bypass the coolant loop.



I ran a track event in NC last weekend, with temps around 95 and ridiculous humidity. Oil temperature topped out around 230 during each 20 minute session, and quickly dropped to 180 after coming off track and turning the A/C on. I was trying to keep up with the C6s in the twisties and keep the STIs in the rearwiew, so I was not being easy on it at all


Im going to go ahead and bump this again; i currently have both z1 and stillens in my cart ready to buy.. After some more research i keep seeing people relocating something and drilling; which one of these provide a true bolt on with no relocating or drilling required?

I have an 09 touring and looking for a 19 or 25 only.

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