That rattling at idle.

Chuck33079 · 04-29-2016, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Rahul718

so everyone agrees that noise is the clutch and/or flywheel? That sounds awfully loud to be one of those...

Why wouldn't it be the input shaft bearing?

OP: Do you notice that it doesn't happen when the car is cold, but rather, after you've driven it for some time?

Yes, it makes more noise when the fluid is good and hot. The lube is thinner and stuff rattles more.

JARblue · 04-29-2016, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rahul718

so everyone agrees that noise is the clutch and/or flywheel? That sounds awfully loud to be one of those...

Why wouldn't it be the input shaft bearing?

OP: Do you notice that it doesn't happen when the car is cold, but rather, after you've driven it for some time?

I agree it sounds pretty loud, but I've heard a pretty wide range of chatter on different Z to not think that's anything too serious. However, even on the same Z that noise tends to get louder and quieter as the metal parts expand and contract and the lube viscosity changes with the temperature. So if it's that loud all the time, then that might be more concerning. It very well could be the bearing going out.

roplusbee · 04-29-2016, 11:40 AM

This is not a new thing. The 350z and 370z both have the "marbles in a can" or "cement mixer" sound from the clutch/flywheel setup. My twin disk doesn't sound that bad, but Donny's (UPREV's Mechanic) super single w/ lightweight flywheel sounds like the "cement mixer" especially after everything is up to operating temp.........

Rahul718 · 04-29-2016, 12:22 PM

Mine is the most noticeable when it's VERY hot after city driving and temps are high and I'm in 1st gear clutching out and slowly giving gas, keeping the rpm low. With the car cold, never a noise

Chuck33079 · 04-29-2016, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rahul718

Mine is the most noticeable when it's VERY hot after city driving and temps are hig and I'm in 1st gear clutching out and slowly giving gas, keeping the rpm low. With the car cold, never a noise

Because the lube is thicker when cold. Completely normal.

NismoNY · 04-29-2016, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rahul718

Mine is the most noticeable when it's VERY hot after city driving and temps are high and I'm in 1st gear clutching out and slowly giving gas, keeping the rpm low. With the car cold, never a noise

Ditto!!! Same exact occurrence here. Out of the driveway fully warmed up, never a tranny noise. However, in the summer when I've been working the clutch a lot and the car's been driven for 30+ minutes, accelerating out of 1st while slowly letting out the clutch will make a slight rattle noise. It's not annoying by any means, but it's something I've taken note of. I've always wondered if this was normal or not...

At idle, when the car is hot, I've also noticed this issue, but not when it's cold. OP, does this happen when your car is cold too?

zackbradford1 · 05-22-2016, 07:15 PM

I've got a very similar noise. I still have 60 days on warranty so I'll take it in just in case the Nissan Tech's think something needs to be repaired. Better safe than sorry. Anyways, here's a video I took an hour ago to document the noise and condition. Also if you notice my engine sounding odd (I think it sounds great aside from injector noise) then please let me know.

https://youtu.be/HPnTNRGNROA

barncobob · 05-22-2016, 08:11 PM

I dunno, sounds like my Ram diesel PU

stansens · 05-22-2016, 10:53 PM

If these were different cars I would say that the noise sounds like exhaust pipe heat shields that are rattling. I've fixed many of these shields over the years and they sound like what I heard in both videos. Just a thought and it's pretty easy to check if car is up on a ramp or hoist.

Cw370TT · 05-23-2016, 01:17 PM

Literally my car sounds like ****. Excuse the language. Totally embarrassed sometimes. Especially pulling up to a meet and shutting it down. I'm going to change the fluid and replace the cats with tps. Check all shields and hope it helps. This noise is ridiculous. Especially with no known true fix. Just live with it...

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zackbradford1 · 05-26-2016, 06:40 PM

I brought my car to Fred Anderson Nissan of Raleigh 34 days into ownership expecting some form of service under the 90 day warranty I was promised at the dealership I bought it from; only to find out that the warranty expired after 30 days. From now on, my 370 will stay far away from the dealership unless recalls pop up in the future. Not to mention, the tech stalled twice while pulling my car into the garage leaving me and the service rep laughing hysterically.

Anyhow, one tech I spoke to mentioned that it sounds like a heat shield rattle. The notes on the diagnostic sheet state "Noise may be coming from the flywheel or loose bolts, recommend breaking down the trans to find noise." I'll soon jack up the car to tighten all heat shield bolts just in case that's the issue, but I'll wait on opening the trans until I need either a clutch or a new CSC assuming the noise doesn't get noticeably worse.

The other two issues I brought it in for were warped front rotors and the infamous ECM capacitor whine. I refused to pay dealership prices on having rotors machined and everyone claimed they couldn't hear the whine at all (as expected) so I'll ignore the whine and replace or have the rotors machined once I replace the front brake pads.

ZFastest · 12-09-2017, 01:38 PM

I'm late to this thread, just found it trying to diagnose a similar rattling sound on my 09. One big thing though, my sound is almost identical to the two videos posted and mine is an automatic transmission not a manual transmission. This leads me to believe it has nothing to do with the any part of the clutch or transmission. My first thought is that it was something loose under the car so I jacked it up and ran the engine. I inspected and jostled everything I could put my hands on and found nothing loose or vibrating and nothing I could ID as causing the sound. I concluded it must be something internal to the exhaust, what ever that could remotely possibly be.

Curious to hear from others that suffer(ed) this agonizing rattling what is is/was. Next step is to take it over to Nissan and let them figure it out.

Jhill · 12-09-2017, 06:19 PM

Wow that’s really bad sounding (not sure if it’s normal or not as I’m 7at). That hard to imagine the car all factory would have such a loud clutch/flywheel, I would expect Nissan would be seeing tons of complaints. Lol didn’t know Nissan sold a 370z diesel model.

s2krazyyy · 12-11-2017, 01:59 AM

I have a manual and it does make that noise, but mine isnt as loud as the videos. I even have a poly transmission mount which highlights the clutch chatter and its still not that loud.

StockZ · 04-14-2023, 07:31 PM

My ACT stage 2 clutch is just as loud. When I'm at an uphill the sound is softer due to gravity acting on the flywheel. This is only my thought, i could be wrong. However, when i replaced the OEM clutch it was cooler and the sound wasn't horrible, but 13k miles later and in the summer this clutch sounds like a diesel. I do believe it's something that I'll have to live with. The clutch grabs amazingly. It's fast and i can feel the performance difference. It's a shame, this sound is a turn off. I notice that rattle goes down as the RPM go up. So the clutch is better the faster they spin.

I know the post is old, but for those who are still looking at old discussion like me. Here is my two cents

04-29-2016, 11:40 AM	#18 (permalink)
roplusbee A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Killeen, TX Posts: 2,360 Drives: 2007 350Z NISMO Rep Power: 22	This is not a new thing. The 350z and 370z both have the "marbles in a can" or "cement mixer" sound from the clutch/flywheel setup. My twin disk doesn't sound that bad, but Donny's (UPREV's Mechanic) super single w/ lightweight flywheel sounds like the "cement mixer" especially after everything is up to operating temp......... __________________ 2007 350Z NISMO #0618: Zerolift \| UPREV \| F.I. \| Greddy \| Competition Clutch \| Injector Dynamics \| Aeromotive \| Pioneer \| JL

04-29-2016, 12:22 PM	#19 (permalink)
Rahul718 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: NYC Posts: 233 Drives: Nismo Z Rep Power: 11	Mine is the most noticeable when it's VERY hot after city driving and temps are high and I'm in 1st gear clutching out and slowly giving gas, keeping the rpm low. With the car cold, never a noise Last edited by Rahul718; 04-29-2016 at 12:29 PM.

05-26-2016, 06:40 PM	#26 (permalink)
zackbradford1 Base Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 2 Drives: 09 Nissan 370z PW 6M Rep Power: 9	*update* I brought my car to Fred Anderson Nissan of Raleigh 34 days into ownership expecting some form of service under the 90 day warranty I was promised at the dealership I bought it from; only to find out that the warranty expired after 30 days. From now on, my 370 will stay far away from the dealership unless recalls pop up in the future. Not to mention, the tech stalled twice while pulling my car into the garage leaving me and the service rep laughing hysterically. Anyhow, one tech I spoke to mentioned that it sounds like a heat shield rattle. The notes on the diagnostic sheet state "Noise may be coming from the flywheel or loose bolts, recommend breaking down the trans to find noise." I'll soon jack up the car to tighten all heat shield bolts just in case that's the issue, but I'll wait on opening the trans until I need either a clutch or a new CSC assuming the noise doesn't get noticeably worse. The other two issues I brought it in for were warped front rotors and the infamous ECM capacitor whine. I refused to pay dealership prices on having rotors machined and everyone claimed they couldn't hear the whine at all (as expected) so I'll ignore the whine and replace or have the rotors machined once I replace the front brake pads.

12-09-2017, 01:38 PM	#27 (permalink)
ZFastest Base Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Maryland Posts: 2 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 8	Same Sound in AT 370Z I'm late to this thread, just found it trying to diagnose a similar rattling sound on my 09. One big thing though, my sound is almost identical to the two videos posted and mine is an automatic transmission not a manual transmission. This leads me to believe it has nothing to do with the any part of the clutch or transmission. My first thought is that it was something loose under the car so I jacked it up and ran the engine. I inspected and jostled everything I could put my hands on and found nothing loose or vibrating and nothing I could ID as causing the sound. I concluded it must be something internal to the exhaust, what ever that could remotely possibly be. Curious to hear from others that suffer(ed) this agonizing rattling what is is/was. Next step is to take it over to Nissan and let them figure it out.

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05-22-2016, 07:15 PM	#22 (permalink)
zackbradford1 Base Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 2 Drives: 09 Nissan 370z PW 6M Rep Power: 9	I've got a very similar noise. I still have 60 days on warranty so I'll take it in just in case the Nissan Tech's think something needs to be repaired. Better safe than sorry. Anyways, here's a video I took an hour ago to document the noise and condition. Also if you notice my engine sounding odd (I think it sounds great aside from injector noise) then please let me know. https://youtu.be/HPnTNRGNROA

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barncobob A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: hangtown, CA Posts: 1,164 Drives: 16 370Z auto Rep Power: 589	I dunno, sounds like my Ram diesel PU

05-22-2016, 10:53 PM	#24 (permalink)
stansens Base Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: toronto, canada Posts: 144 Drives: 2016, 370z Rep Power: 192	If these were different cars I would say that the noise sounds like exhaust pipe heat shields that are rattling. I've fixed many of these shields over the years and they sound like what I heard in both videos. Just a thought and it's pretty easy to check if car is up on a ramp or hoist.

05-23-2016, 01:17 PM	#25 (permalink)
Cw370TT Base Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Georgia Posts: 24 Drives: 09 370 Sport 6MT Rep Power: 9	Literally my car sounds like ****. Excuse the language. Totally embarrassed sometimes. Especially pulling up to a meet and shutting it down. I'm going to change the fluid and replace the cats with tps. Check all shields and hope it helps. This noise is ridiculous. Especially with no known true fix. Just live with it... Sent from my SM-N920T using Tapatalk

12-09-2017, 06:19 PM	#28 (permalink)
Jhill Track Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: San jose Posts: 846 Drives: 2013 370z sport Rep Power: 3384	Wow that’s really bad sounding (not sure if it’s normal or not as I’m 7at). That hard to imagine the car all factory would have such a loud clutch/flywheel, I would expect Nissan would be seeing tons of complaints. Lol didn’t know Nissan sold a 370z diesel model.

12-11-2017, 01:59 AM	#29 (permalink)
s2krazyyy Base Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: California Posts: 162 Drives: 2010 40th 370z Rep Power: 44	I have a manual and it does make that noise, but mine isnt as loud as the videos. I even have a poly transmission mount which highlights the clutch chatter and its still not that loud.

04-14-2023, 07:31 PM	#30 (permalink)
StockZ Base Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 2 Drives: 14 370Z touring Rep Power: 3	My ACT stage 2 clutch is just as loud. When I'm at an uphill the sound is softer due to gravity acting on the flywheel. This is only my thought, i could be wrong. However, when i replaced the OEM clutch it was cooler and the sound wasn't horrible, but 13k miles later and in the summer this clutch sounds like a diesel. I do believe it's something that I'll have to live with. The clutch grabs amazingly. It's fast and i can feel the performance difference. It's a shame, this sound is a turn off. I notice that rattle goes down as the RPM go up. So the clutch is better the faster they spin. I know the post is old, but for those who are still looking at old discussion like me. Here is my two cents