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Elmo370z 02-19-2019 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckie311 (Post 3826569)
Just throwing this out there.. anyone think 3 inch intakes would be better for more power than stillen Gen 3 once the cam in is..since i have ported 63mm throttle bodies ported Upper and Lower Manifold as well


chuckie311 02-19-2019 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 3826747)
You'd be lucky to see a difference of more than 1-2hp, if anything at all.

Just a thought willing to try different parts to see If they make more power

chuckie311 02-21-2019 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3826754)
:ban:

:rolleyes:

5 -10 WHP over stillen Gen 3

but let me know when you Dyno test parts..

Whjaxn17 02-22-2019 09:22 AM

Z1 did some testing the weekend before I picked my car up from having the cams installed and they dyno tested the Stillen G3, Z1, and the Admin intake on the same car the same day. The results are as follows:

Stillen 323.75 WHP 265.24 TQ
Z1 323.23 WHP 266.37 TQ
Admin 322.46 WHP 265.34 TQ

I don't know what other mods are on the car, but they swapped intakes, dyno pull, swapped, another pull...you get the idea. I do know this car wasn't cammed, though.

I'd be interested to see a cammed car w/ 3" vs a cammed car w/ 2.5" like Z1. Also, just to play the devil's advocate and :stirthepot:, SOHO has a 2.75" intake in the works.

Rusty 02-22-2019 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Whjaxn17 (Post 3827711)
Z1 did some testing the weekend before I picked my car up from having the cams installed and they dyno tested the Stillen G3, Z1, and the Admin intake on the same car the same day. The results are as follows:

Stillen 323.75 WHP 265.24 TQ
Z1 323.23 WHP 266.37 TQ
Admin 322.46 WHP 265.34 TQ

I don't know what other mods are on the car, but they swapped intakes, dyno pull, swapped, another pull...you get the idea. I do know this car wasn't cammed, though.

I'd be interested to see a cammed car w/ 3" vs a cammed car w/ 2.5" like Z1. Also, just to play the devil's advocate and :stirthepot:, SOHO has a 2.75" intake in the works.

No difference. Really have to nit pick it and split hairs. Wonder if they did a tune for each intake?

zer099 02-22-2019 03:13 PM

When going from 2.5" to 3" you might need to rescale the MAFs to get the (if any) benefits from a larger intake. I know when I went from takeda to AAM I had to get a tune as the car did not like the 2.75" without something being tweaked.

Which brings me to bring up: AAM has had their 2.75" intake around for a couple years now.

chuckie311 02-22-2019 03:42 PM

I would be willing to test 3 inch intakes when I get my cam installed to see if they make more power over Stillen...
Still on the fence about dropping 640 just to test them out.. if I could get a deal or borrow some I’m all for it..

Hotrodz 02-22-2019 04:16 PM

You are not going to see any difference in a meaningful way with 3" exhaust unless you are boosted. It is the law diminishing returns when it come to exhaust mods NA!

Rusty 02-22-2019 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3827795)
You are not going to see any difference in a meaningful way with 3" exhaust unless you are boosted. It is the law diminishing returns when it come to exhaust mods NA!

It's 3" intakes Bobby.

Hotrodz 02-25-2019 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3827861)
It's 3" intakes Bobby.

Oh okay...same thing applies lol!

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Whjaxn17 02-25-2019 11:48 AM

Other than 1Slow370's car, the other 2 cars that are close to me are running 3" intakes, 1 Admin, 1 RZG. 1 actually beat me @ 382whp/305wtq. There's been some suspicion/disbelief floating around about that, but I saw a lot of the same when I broke the record, so it's just part of it. Ray(don't know last name) tuned the car in house @ RZG. 2014 Q60.

Elmo370z 02-25-2019 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Whjaxn17 (Post 3828586)
Other than 1Slow370's car, the other 2 cars that are close to me are running 3" intakes, 1 Admin, 1 RZG. 1 actually beat me @ 382whp/305wtq. There's been some suspicion/disbelief floating around about that, but I saw a lot of the same when I broke the record, so it's just part of it. Ray(don't know last name) tuned the car in house @ RZG. 2014 Q60.

You running oem headers

Elmo370z 02-25-2019 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Whjaxn17 (Post 3828586)
Other than 1Slow370's car, the other 2 cars that are close to me are running 3" intakes, 1 Admin, 1 RZG. 1 actually beat me @ 382whp/305wtq. There's been some suspicion/disbelief floating around about that, but I saw a lot of the same when I broke the record, so it's just part of it. Ray(don't know last name) tuned the car in house @ RZG. 2014 Q60.

Car here in Florida that made 360 with ppe’s, cbe, intake, and a hr upper on race gas. Tested on two different dyno’s. So let the haters hate, keep doing you.

Whjaxn17 02-25-2019 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3828608)
You running oem headers

Z1 headers w/ ART pipes

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3828610)
Car here in Florida that made 360 with ppe’s, cbe, intake, and a hr upper on race gas. Tested on two different dyno’s. So let the haters hate, keep doing you.

Haven't seen that 1. 1 in Cali that made 259/296(Admin intakes and remote tune), the RZG car at 382/305(he told me a week or so ago that he had actually been on another dyno since and did 381 on it), and then mine at 377/299.

Elmo370z 02-25-2019 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Whjaxn17 (Post 3828619)
Z1 headers w/ ART pipes



Haven't seen that 1. 1 in Cali that made 259/296(Admin intakes and remote tune), the RZG car at 382/305(he told me a week or so ago that he had actually been on another dyno since and did 381 on it), and then mine at 377/299.

Sweet. You have a Q50?

Whjaxn17 02-25-2019 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by elmo370z (Post 3828622)
sweet. You have a q50?

2017 370z 6mt

Elmo370z 02-25-2019 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Whjaxn17 (Post 3828637)
2017 370z 6mt

You have a picture of the oem headers? Might be interested

Elmo370z 02-25-2019 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Whjaxn17 (Post 3828637)
2017 370z 6mt

Do they look like these?

Whjaxn17 02-25-2019 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3828642)
Do they look like these?

I don't have a picture of them, but I do still have my OEM set. PM me and I can send you some pics later this afternoon when I get home.

and yes, they look just like that, heat shield and all

Elmo370z 02-25-2019 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Whjaxn17 (Post 3828645)
I don't have a picture of them, but I do still have my OEM set. PM me and I can send you some pics later this afternoon when I get home.

and yes, they look just like that, heat shield and all

Pm sent

chuckie311 02-28-2019 09:59 PM

if i can get close to 40whp (350) after cam install and new parts and retune i'm going to put my stock pumpkin back on and see what numbers it lays down..seeing it was a 20whp dyno difference between the gear change it should be around the 370whp mark


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Originally Posted by Whjaxn17 (Post 3828586)
Other than 1Slow370's car, the other 2 cars that are close to me are running 3" intakes, 1 Admin, 1 RZG. 1 actually beat me @ 382whp/305wtq. There's been some suspicion/disbelief floating around about that, but I saw a lot of the same when I broke the record, so it's just part of it. Ray(don't know last name) tuned the car in house @ RZG. 2014 Q60.


chuckie311 03-01-2019 12:16 AM

3 inch intakes are ordered..once everything is installed and dynod with the Stillen intakes I will have the 3inch intakes installed and dynod to see if they make more power

1slow370 03-02-2019 11:09 PM

When i did 371 i had twin de throttles, 3 in intakes, and 5" filters on velocity stacks

Whjaxn17 03-04-2019 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 3830322)
When i did 371 i had twin de throttles, 3 in intakes, and 5" filters on velocity stacks

Z1 2.5" w/ upgrade kit here, so I'm the only non 3" of this group. Maybe I should swap it out just to see if there's any difference.

chuckie311 03-29-2019 06:02 PM

Car is at Specialtyz
Should have some dyno numbers in a few weeks

https://beta-static.photobucket.com/...080&fit=bounds

chuckie311 04-03-2019 07:36 PM

Motor is tore down..all the goodies will be going in.. ��

https://beta-static.photobucket.com/...080&fit=bounds

chuckie311 04-19-2019 07:18 PM

Seb just pulled the car off the dyno and here are the results

Green is the baseline before the changes. Blue is after on 91 octane and red is on E85


https://beta-static.photobucket.com/...080&fit=bounds

beauz 04-19-2019 07:32 PM

Looks good. How does it feel?

Spooler 04-19-2019 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckie311 (Post 3845077)
Seb just pulled the car off the dyno and here are the results

Green is the baseline before the changes. Blue is after on 91 octane and red is on E85


https://beta-static.photobucket.com/...080&fit=bounds

Do you still have 4.08 gears?

chuckie311 04-19-2019 09:16 PM

Car will be picked up Tuesday.
4.08 gears are still in for now.

370Z JT 04-19-2019 10:07 PM

looks like close to 370 when you go back to the stock gears.:rock:

Spooler 04-19-2019 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckie311 (Post 3845094)
Car will be picked up Tuesday.
4.08 gears are still in for now.

Did Seb say what he thought about the C2 cams?

chuckie311 04-19-2019 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3845122)
Did Seb say what he thought about the C2 cams?

he was impressed with them..he had doubts because he hasn't seen good results with cams on NA cars..

Spooler 04-19-2019 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckie311 (Post 3845127)
he was impressed with them..he had doubts because he hasn't seen good results with cams on NA cars..

It always makes you feel good when someone that has tuned a ton of 370z's is impressed with a product. That means it is really good. The same cams are in my motor. I am just turbo charged. I hope they do what I want them to do. My purpose for them is better tip in and spool up time. Drivability reasons.

chuckie311 04-19-2019 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3845128)
It always makes you feel good when someone that has tuned a ton of 370z's is impressed with a product. That means it is really good. The same cams are in my motor. I am just turbo charged. I hope they do what I want them to do. My purpose for them is better tip in and spool up time. Drivability reasons.

these are likely my last mods on the G it will be my daily driver..
next purchase is the Q50 or Q60 3.0t

good luck on your build.. i can't wait to pick the car up Tuesday and give it a test run on the freeway..ill give my input on them then.. i told Seb to take the car out for a test drive..

Whjaxn17 04-22-2019 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by chuckie311 (Post 3845127)
he was impressed with them..he had doubts because he hasn't seen good results with cams on NA cars..

I wasn't aware there were that many cars running them. I have no complaints about them, and while they are expensive, plus law of diminishing returns and all that, I think they're worth decent power NA. I gained 30whp from an intake swap and cams. 93 pump gas both runs. Another 13 on top of that with E85. I don't really think the issue with intakes applies as they never let it get hot on the dyno for heat soak to really become a problem.

chuckie311 04-22-2019 11:19 AM

here is my car being Dyno'd

https://www.instagram.com/p/BwkAHrwHuzK/

Whjaxn17 04-22-2019 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by chuckie311 (Post 3845617)
here is my car being Dyno'd

https://www.instagram.com/p/BwkAHrwHuzK/

https://www.instagram.com/p/BsD1xyng..._web_copy_link

chuckie311 04-22-2019 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Whjaxn17 (Post 3845623)

with stock gearing i should be right around your numbers.. we will find out end of year that's when i'm switching back

chuckie311 04-23-2019 05:15 PM

just picked the car up and while it was 99% freeway driving all i can say is wow.. the mid range pull is very noticeable...while im out of town for the next 5 days when i get back the car will be fueled up on E85.. Big thanks to Seb and the crew for all of the hard work..


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