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SG4247 06-08-2019 02:40 PM

Clearly Jon doesnt know what f*** he is talking about.

johnnydrama 06-08-2019 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SG4247 (Post 3859043)
Clearly Jon doesnt know what f*** he is talking about.

Jon Parnham, one of the better known and respected tuners on our cars so I doubt it. I’d say it’s more likely that they have a different tool.

SG4247 06-08-2019 05:27 PM

Tuner - engine builder - retailer are not the same things - lol

I would have expected guidance from the vendor on the best tool for this job.

Looks like you made something work, share another pic?

Hotrodz 06-08-2019 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SG4247 (Post 3859068)
Tuner - engine builder - retailer are not the same things - lol

I would have expected guidance from the vendor on the best tool for this job.

Looks like you made something work, share another pic?

LMAO, you must not know much about Z1. Jon is all three and one of the best with a vq!

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SG4247 06-08-2019 06:24 PM

Lol ok !

I know they lie, on several occasions.

And this post on valve spring compressors!

Here is the tool that appears to be recommended by the cam designer/engine builder.

http://www.jimwolftechnology.com/cus...asp?PartID=485

Hotrodz 06-08-2019 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SG4247 (Post 3859086)
Lol ok !

I know they lie, on several occasions.

And this post on valve spring compressors!

Here is the tool that appears to be recommended by the cam designer/engine builder.

http://www.jimwolftechnology.com/cus...asp?PartID=485

I hear what you are saying but sometimes a someone can use a tool in away others may not be able to duplicate. I doesn't make them wrong!

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johnnydrama 06-08-2019 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3859091)
I hear what you are saying but sometimes a someone can use a tool in away others may not be able to duplicate. I doesn't make them wrong!

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Personally I’ve got nothing but love for Z1 and don’t feel let down or misled in anyway. I’ve spent thousands upon thousands with them for a reason and they are my go to source. There are literally hundreds universal spring compressors. At first he mentioned the JWT option, then put me on hold to ask one of the techs just to make sure and he said they were having better luck with a universal.

Regardless we came up with something that works easily and that’s all I really care about.

Forum sure has change since 09-10 when I owned my first Nismo, everyone on this forum was in it together, haters were the minority. A lot of the guys on here today should be driving V6 Mustangs and don’t deserve such a great car. Just don’t understand the negativity.

johnnydrama 06-08-2019 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3859081)
LMAO, you must not know much about Z1. Jon is all three and one of the best with a vq!

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Thank you!

Hotrodz 06-08-2019 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnydrama (Post 3859095)
Personally I’ve got nothing but love for Z1 and don’t feel let down or misled in anyway. I’ve spent thousands upon thousands with them for a reason and they are my go to source. There are literally hundreds universal spring compressors. At first he mentioned the JWT option, then put me on hold to ask one of the techs just to make sure and he said they were having better luck with a universal.



Regardless we came up with something that works easily and that’s all I really care about.



Forum sure has change since 09-10 when I owned my first Nismo, everyone on this forum was in it together, haters were the minority. A lot of the guys on here today should be driving V6 Mustangs and don’t deserve such a great car. Just don’t understand the negativity.

Hey, I remember when I joined and back in 2012. I was so inspired by your car as were many others. I learned a lot from all the OGs and others. I was sad when you sold your car but understood since I'm a little older lol. Now I know enough to call BS when I see it and there are still a decent cohort of us old members to keep things on the up and up around here. Many are miss guided or had a bad experience or know someone that did with a reputable business, tuner or mechanic and therefore they want to slam them. Well I have met a few of the best a ZDAYZ over the years and I have gained great respect for what they bring to the community even if they aren't perfect. Stay the course as you are inspiring lots of enthusiast here. I look forward to your build and love the fact that you doing the build with your dad!

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Spooler 06-08-2019 11:52 PM

Haters are gonna hate. I have made tools before also and I keep them around to use again. I understand why your father took the back of the front cover off. Unless you have a lift, it's not easy getting the 2nd oil pan off. Someone with a lift could of had the tranny out in 45min and the oil pan off in the same time. That front cover is no joke, but if you are on jackstands, I would have done the same. MA drops the whole motor and cradle out of the car to change the cams. Different strokes for different folks.

johnnydrama 06-09-2019 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3859142)
Haters are gonna hate. I have made tools before also and I keep them around to use again. I understand why your father took the back of the front cover off. Unless you have a lift, it's not easy getting the 2nd oil pan off. Someone with a lift could of had the tranny out in 45min and the oil pan off in the same time. That front cover is no joke, but if you are on jackstands, I would have done the same. MA drops the whole motor and cradle out of the car to change the cams. Different strokes for different folks.

No argument about using a lift vs. not using one. We just don’t have one and I had confidence doing it this way due to videos of Z1 and AdminTuning doing the install on jack stands. At this point I would say without a doubt the preferred method would be with a lift and to drop the engine/tranny. That said, it can be done properly this way and we are in no hurry. It’s only a race against my patience but in all we are both enjoying it and learning along the way.

hustleman222 06-12-2019 07:22 PM

Awesome work with the install, I just recently ordered the c2 cam as well, hopefully I can do it in the near future...but I'm really not in any rush...looking forward to your progress

Whjaxn17 06-13-2019 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SG4247 (Post 3859043)
Clearly Jon doesnt know what f*** he is talking about.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL :gtfo2:

Clearly you're the 1 that doesn't know what the f*ck you're talking about. Jon is well known and respected on this forum, but I seem to be unsure who exactly the hell you are.

Whjaxn17 06-13-2019 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnydrama (Post 3859175)
No argument about using a lift vs. not using one. We just don’t have one and I had confidence doing it this way due to videos of Z1 and AdminTuning doing the install on jack stands. At this point I would say without a doubt the preferred method would be with a lift and to drop the engine/tranny. That said, it can be done properly this way and we are in no hurry. It’s only a race against my patience but in all we are both enjoying it and learning along the way.

They did mine w/ the engine in the car. Got a few update pictures along the way w/ the front clip missing:ughdance:

johnnydrama 06-13-2019 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Whjaxn17 (Post 3860589)
They did mine w/ the engine in the car. Got a few update pictures along the way w/ the front clip missing:ughdance:

Exactly why I was comfortable doing it this way. Springs have been replaced and cams were installed today. We are officially re-building, which should be much faster than the tear down was. I'm getting excited now.

Whjaxn17 06-14-2019 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by johnnydrama (Post 3860604)
Exactly why I was comfortable doing it this way. Springs have been replaced and cams were installed today. We are officially re-building, which should be much faster than the tear down was. I'm getting excited now.

What's the time frame? Looking forward to it.:tiphat:

OptionZero 06-14-2019 10:52 AM

Is it still 20+ hrs with engine in the car?

johnnydrama 06-14-2019 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by OptionZero (Post 3860829)
Is it still 20+ hrs with engine in the car?

I would say 40+. I know Dynosty quoted it as a 35-40 hour job for me as well.

johnnydrama 06-14-2019 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Whjaxn17 (Post 3860824)
What's the time frame? Looking forward to it.:tiphat:

Will probably have it to Dynosty the week of 6/24. Don’t have a scheduled tune date but I’m leaving it with them and they are going to work it in the first opportunity they have. So Hopefully tuned/dyno results by end of June or early July.

OptionZero 06-14-2019 01:37 PM

Goddamn the install on this is scary expensive (relative to the gain). I suppose to make best use of the time you'd do headers and whatever ported parts you had, plus any engine dress stuff while you had everything apart

I am currently at intake/RHFC/catback. Following this thread is sort of depressing in that the next step is quite the massive one financially, for . . . less than 400rwhp

JLarson 06-14-2019 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by OptionZero (Post 3860865)
Goddamn the install on this is scary expensive (relative to the gain). I suppose to make best use of the time you'd do headers and whatever ported parts you had, plus any engine dress stuff while you had everything apart

I am currently at intake/RHFC/catback. Following this thread is sort of depressing in that the next step is quite the massive one financially, for . . . less than 400rwhp

Turbo? :tiphat:

cv129 06-14-2019 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by OptionZero (Post 3860865)
Goddamn the install on this is scary expensive (relative to the gain). I suppose to make best use of the time you'd do headers and whatever ported parts you had, plus any engine dress stuff while you had everything apart

I am currently at intake/RHFC/catback. Following this thread is sort of depressing in that the next step is quite the massive one financially, for . . . less than 400rwhp

But the way the power delivery, the rev, the sound will be quite epic

cv129 06-14-2019 09:58 PM

Cam + FBO, coolerworx shifter, stiffer bushings, tune out the throttle lag, a lightweight flywheel....should make quite an experience.

chuckie311 06-14-2019 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by OptionZero (Post 3860865)
Goddamn the install on this is scary expensive (relative to the gain). I suppose to make best use of the time you'd do headers and whatever ported parts you had, plus any engine dress stuff while you had everything apart

I am currently at intake/RHFC/catback. Following this thread is sort of depressing in that the next step is quite the massive one financially, for . . . less than 400rwhp

it can be very expensive depending what else you do while the motor is open.. for what i spent i could have almost bought a twin turbo kit..

johnnydrama 06-17-2019 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by cv129 (Post 3860912)
But the way the power delivery, the rev, the sound will be quite epic

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Originally Posted by cv129 (Post 3860927)
Cam + FBO, coolerworx shifter, stiffer bushings, tune out the throttle lag, a lightweight flywheel....should make quite an experience.

Couldn’t have said it any better myself. Personally, I love N/A high revving engines. I have nothing against the Forced Induction guys and could not argue economics on which path makes more sense from a price/hp ratio, and I’ve considered going that route multiple times. However performance is more than just HP. I have tried to improve all aspects of performance on this build, brakes, suspension, chassis rigidity, weight reduction, etc.

Personally I have been satisfied with the power this car makes at 342whp, and cannot think of a time when I was driving on the street thinking I wish it had more power. It is usable, I don’t drive on interstates, instead I am fortunate to live an area with great driving roads with hills and tight curvy roads. Because of that I already very rarely reach the limits of this car and certainly couldn’t if I had 600hp.

I’m excited for a little extra power from these Cams, how much who knows? However, it’s more about adding to the excitement that already is from a higher revving NA exhaust sound which will just add to the driving experience I already enjoy.

Spooler 06-17-2019 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by johnnydrama (Post 3861537)
Couldn’t have said it any better myself. Personally, I love N/A high revving engines. I have nothing against the Forced Induction guys and could not argue economics on which path makes more sense from a price/hp ratio, and I’ve considered going that route multiple times. However performance is more than just HP. I have tried to improve all aspects of performance on this build, brakes, suspension, chassis rigidity, weight reduction, etc.

Personally I have been satisfied with the power this car makes at 342whp, and cannot think of a time when I was driving on the street thinking I wish it had more power. It is usable, I don’t drive on interstates, instead I am fortunate to live an area with great driving roads with hills and tight curvy roads. Because of that I already very rarely reach the limits of this car and certainly couldn’t if I had 600hp.

I’m excited for a little extra power from these Cams, how much who knows? However, it’s more about adding to the excitement that already is from a higher revving NA exhaust sound which will just add to the driving experience I already enjoy.

You just have never been bitten by the boost bug. I was back in 1992, Haven't looked back since. Unless there is a turbo singing in the background, I am not happy.

johnnydrama 06-17-2019 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3861565)
You just have never been bitten by the boost bug. I was back in 1992, Haven't looked back since. Unless there is a turbo singing in the background, I am not happy.

I completely understand, not hating on boost at all. Just different preferences is all.

johnnydrama 06-27-2019 07:57 AM

It's alive.... hoping to trailer down to Dynosty tomorrow 6/28!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkKmc1dKYvU

Whjaxn17 06-27-2019 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by johnnydrama (Post 3863623)
It's alive.... hoping to trailer down to Dynosty tomorrow 6/28!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkKmc1dKYvU

It sounds very similar to mine. They have a slightly different sound that I can't quite describe, but I like it. Looking forward to seeing what it does tmrw. :happydance:

cv129 06-27-2019 10:06 AM

I like the slightly lumpy idle at the very beginning. A little bit more rawness to it.

johnnydrama 06-27-2019 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Whjaxn17 (Post 3863663)
It sounds very similar to mine. They have a slightly different sound that I can't quite describe, but I like it. Looking forward to seeing what it does tmrw. :happydance:

They won’t be tuning it tomorrow unfortunately. I am dropping it with them and they are going to work it in as soon as they can. Hopefully soon!

chuckie311 06-27-2019 11:48 AM

cant wait to see your results

johnnydrama 06-27-2019 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckie311 (Post 3863695)
cant wait to see your results

Just spoke to Nik @Dynosty, he put me on the schedule for 7/18. Will be sooner if there is an opening maybe, but 7/18 at the latest. The suspense continues.

johnnydrama 06-28-2019 05:44 PM

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Goods were delivered today!

johnnydrama 07-11-2019 06:34 PM

Good news bad news. Good news was that Dynosty had a dyno cancellation so they grabbed my car and strapped it to the rollers today. Bad news is that when they hooked the computer up Hal was getting 40-50% variances in bank to bank fuel balance. They are going to try and diagnose by Monday and put together a game plan.

johnnydrama 07-16-2019 08:23 AM

The bank to bank fuel issue has been resolved, we didn't get the driver's side VVEL control module aligned properly when re-assembling.

We are back on schedule for the Dyno/Tuning session this Thursday.

solidus 07-16-2019 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnydrama (Post 3867453)
The bank to bank fuel issue has been resolved, we didn't get the driver's side VVEL control module aligned properly when re-assembling.

We are back on schedule for the Dyno/Tuning session this Thursday.

Same exact thing happened with me!!! I just got it back.

johnnydrama 07-16-2019 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by solidus (Post 3867496)
Same exact thing happened with me!!! I just got it back.

I would say it was the one part of the install that wasn't on our radar despite multiple conversations with Dynosty & Z1 and reading from others who have conducted the install of these cams. The VVEL Modules have to be indexed perfectly and we did not realize until we had already removed the drivers side. We were then able to scribe the passenger side and had no issues getting it realigned.

Quite tricky.

johnnydrama 07-18-2019 02:54 PM

350whp. Thoughts/opinions, graph, and video to come.

cv129 07-18-2019 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnydrama (Post 3867932)
350whp. Thoughts/opinions, graph, and video to come.

Nice number, nice ring to it. I would love that NA power for my car. I demand driving videos, outside sound clips, the whole nine yards

:driving:!


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