DIY: Replace dreaded steering-lock on 2009s and early 2010s.

zero · 03-30-2012, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arnold K.

I figured simply removing or bypassing the mechanism would have no ill affect on the car.

You probably will need to bypass the 2 microswitches on the lock unit too. They are position sensors for the lock. Maybe re-wiring the 2 microswitches into toggle switches.

For the OP and all contributors, this is a great information.

MyZ4U2C · 03-30-2012, 04:06 PM

Gives me hope, lets continue to report this to the NFTSA as last I checked today, only 7 reports total for 2009 - 2010 Z vehicles

kenchan · 04-04-2012, 08:13 PM

Rhd it's worth a try if outside warranty period.

KORRUPT · 04-04-2012, 09:52 PM

rhd. Thats it. I replaced my failed rev b with a new rev c. I keep my " fixed " rev b in my car with some pliers in case the rev c goes at which time I will switch them again and fix the rev c. I'm out of warranty and wish I had this option when I put the rev c in cause it takes 15min to do and I would have saved $1000.

Tino2fasT · 04-07-2012, 03:45 PM

Don't know who has kept up with ordeal but I had the dreaded "Push Start FAIL" and Nissan had to come get my 370Z and take it to a Dealership for that probem, but when i got it back it had ANOTHER problem, that i was fortunate enough to notice AT THE DEALERSHIP, before taking delivery of my car. GREAT news! when the Dealerships Service Manager informed me that my "P-Shift" warning light/Fast Beeping" problem was NOT going to be covered under my EXTENDED 6 YEAR, 75,000 mile warranty, i was HOT!!! and demanded to speak to someone with more "authority to deal with my problem, because it WAS NOT doing this when it was TOWED to Nissan BY NISSAN's Roadside Assistance! They put me in touch with a representative from Nissan NORTH AMERICA, you explain your case to the Rep, and if the rep thinks you have a case, they present it to the next higher up know as a "Regional Specialist". Well GOOD NEWS!

The Regional Specialist handling my case called and got all the particulars of my case and ruled that Nissan will FIX my car replacing a DAMAGED shift knob, (I have a 7AT, so it's that type) i was told that it must have been damaged while being towed or while being worked on at the dealership, but seeing as how the car is FLAWLESS and ALWAYS been serviced on time getting all recommended services (like tires being replaced when they were deemed past minimum safe tread, stuff like that) The payments have ALWAYS been on time or early, and that NISSAN is the ONLY people that have TOUCHED it.... That it was decided that Nissan WILL FIX IT UNDER WARRANTY AND PAY for the car that "magically" turned into a RENTAL instead of a LOANER once it as determined that the warranty was NOT going to cover the repairs.

I explained to the "Regional Specialist" how I have SHOWN total Nissan LOYALTY, and that I had been planning on buying a GT-R after I pay off the Z, instead of getting a Corvette ZO6. (have always wanted a Vette since i was about 10 years old, lol) And explained that I was not MAD, about the earlier decision to NOT take care of the car, but rather disappointed that Nissan would not stand behind the warranty. It was then explained to me that Nissan's warranty covers over 1800 parts under the "Gold" warranty plan that I have, --BUT-- the parts have to be defective from the FACTORY, not a part that Nissan's tehnicians find that were DAMAGED.... I have an excellent reputation with my dealership and they know how meticulous i am with my car, which is whythey went to bat for me on this matter.

I LOVE the DIY section here don't get me wrong, but having that extended warranty pretty much saved me on this one. I am a Custom Stereo Istaller by trade so I'm extremely familiar with a lot of the things handled in a lot of these DIY's, but as long as those of us that have purchased a BRAND NEW car DO that, GET the EXTENDED warranty if possible.. especially when dealing with "electronic" parts.. because for as long as I have been dealing with them I've come to find out that some parts last forever, some fail within the first few trys. THATS why a warranty is a GOOD thing.

Once again, SORRY for the novel!

kenchan · 04-07-2012, 05:37 PM

tino- you missed the point of the DIY. read the first page again why i made it. having extended warranty does no good for me.

onzedge · 04-07-2012, 05:48 PM

Mr. Kenchan,

I have been trying to practice egressing the Z without using the steering wheel for leverage. I settled on a technique.

1. Undo seatbelt
2. Open driver's door
3. Rotate upper body counter-clockwise
4. Outstretch both arms
5. Bend waist until palms touch the ground
6. Using palms in a walking motion pull until knees are clear of the door sill
7. Drop to knees but keep feet elevated
8. Crawl away from vehicle until feet are clear
9. Stand up

Thoughts? Suggestions?

kenchan · 04-07-2012, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onzedge

Mr. Kenchan,

I have been trying to practice egressing the Z without using the steering wheel for leverage. I settled on a technique.

1. Undo seatbelt
2. Open driver's door
3. Rotate upper body counter-clockwise
4. Outstretch both arms
5. Bend waist until palms touch the ground
6. Using palms in a walking motion pull until knees are clear of the door sill
7. Drop to knees but keep feet elevated
8. Crawl away from vehicle until feet are clear
9. Stand up

Thoughts? Suggestions?

you need to copyright this methodology.

GaleForce · 04-07-2012, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onzedge

Mr. Kenchan,

I have been trying to practice egressing the Z without using the steering wheel for leverage. I settled on a technique.

1. Undo seatbelt
2. Open driver's door
3. Rotate upper body counter-clockwise
4. Outstretch both arms
5. Bend waist until palms touch the ground
6. Using palms in a walking motion pull until knees are clear of the door sill
7. Drop to knees but keep feet elevated
8. Crawl away from vehicle until feet are clear
9. Stand up

Thoughts? Suggestions?

This is a new DIY. Let's chronicle the previously mentioned steps with some visual examples. You can be the model Mr.onzedge, I'll take the pictures... Don't worry, I'm a professional. Now just undo one more button on your top please.

onzedge · 04-07-2012, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaleForce

This is a new DIY. Let's chronicle the previously mentioned steps with some visual examples. You can be the model Mr.onzedge, I'll take the pictures... Don't worry, I'm a professional. Now just undo one more button on your top please.

You have seen what I look like, right?

GaleForce · 04-07-2012, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onzedge

You have seen what I look like, right?

Yep

GaleForce · 04-07-2012, 07:11 PM

On a side note, the potential "Egressing DIY" will need a supplement for those who choose not to wear a seat belt. I didn't realize people still do that in 2012 until I notice a thread complete with poll about that very thing on this very forum. Those poor bastards would hit a road block from step one.

onzedge · 04-07-2012, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaleForce

On a side note, the potential "Egressing DIY" will need a supplement for those who choose not to wear a seat belt. I didn't realize people still do that in 2012 until I notice a thread complete with poll about that very thing on this very forum. Those poor bastards would hit a road block from step one.

kenchan · 04-09-2012, 12:37 PM

this is a question for AXW and KORRUPT...or anyone that actually took apart a broken steering lock. if we were to just remove the spur gear in the pict below, would this mean we would be removing the root cause of the failing steering lock problem?

we wont have steering lock feature as the motor and pinion will just spin inside, but i think it was the spur gear that was jamming that causes this problem in the first place. any thoughts?

where is the detection pads/pins that sends signal back to the BCM? is it part of the large gear or no?

The big white gear seen on the left...

zero · 04-09-2012, 02:42 PM

[/QUOTE]

This part does not look like 500+ dollars part. The motor got powered, then turn and drive the spur gear, spur gear turned the lock column shaft up or down. The 2 micro switches detected spur gear position and then send signal to BCM.

04-04-2012, 09:52 PM	#4 (permalink)
KORRUPT Base Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Ottawa Posts: 75 Drives: 09 MB 370Z Rep Power: 16	rhd. Thats it. I replaced my failed rev b with a new rev c. I keep my " fixed " rev b in my car with some pliers in case the rev c goes at which time I will switch them again and fix the rev c. I'm out of warranty and wish I had this option when I put the rev c in cause it takes 15min to do and I would have saved $1000. __________________ AFE / HPS / STILLEN CBE / AMS SS

04-07-2012, 03:45 PM	#5 (permalink)
Tino2fasT Base Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Rllg Hlls Estates, Ca. Posts: 36 Drives: '09 370Z Spt Pkg 7AT Rep Power: 17	Don't know who has kept up with ordeal but I had the dreaded "Push Start FAIL" and Nissan had to come get my 370Z and take it to a Dealership for that probem, but when i got it back it had ANOTHER problem, that i was fortunate enough to notice AT THE DEALERSHIP, before taking delivery of my car. GREAT news! when the Dealerships Service Manager informed me that my "P-Shift" warning light/Fast Beeping" problem was NOT going to be covered under my EXTENDED 6 YEAR, 75,000 mile warranty, i was HOT!!! and demanded to speak to someone with more "authority to deal with my problem, because it WAS NOT doing this when it was TOWED to Nissan BY NISSAN's Roadside Assistance! They put me in touch with a representative from Nissan NORTH AMERICA, you explain your case to the Rep, and if the rep thinks you have a case, they present it to the next higher up know as a "Regional Specialist". Well GOOD NEWS! The Regional Specialist handling my case called and got all the particulars of my case and ruled that Nissan will FIX my car replacing a DAMAGED shift knob, (I have a 7AT, so it's that type) i was told that it must have been damaged while being towed or while being worked on at the dealership, but seeing as how the car is FLAWLESS and ALWAYS been serviced on time getting all recommended services (like tires being replaced when they were deemed past minimum safe tread, stuff like that) The payments have ALWAYS been on time or early, and that NISSAN is the ONLY people that have TOUCHED it.... That it was decided that Nissan WILL FIX IT UNDER WARRANTY AND PAY for the car that "magically" turned into a RENTAL instead of a LOANER once it as determined that the warranty was NOT going to cover the repairs. I explained to the "Regional Specialist" how I have SHOWN total Nissan LOYALTY, and that I had been planning on buying a GT-R after I pay off the Z, instead of getting a Corvette ZO6. (have always wanted a Vette since i was about 10 years old, lol) And explained that I was not MAD, about the earlier decision to NOT take care of the car, but rather disappointed that Nissan would not stand behind the warranty. It was then explained to me that Nissan's warranty covers over 1800 parts under the "Gold" warranty plan that I have, --BUT-- the parts have to be defective from the FACTORY, not a part that Nissan's tehnicians find that were DAMAGED.... I have an excellent reputation with my dealership and they know how meticulous i am with my car, which is whythey went to bat for me on this matter. I LOVE the DIY section here don't get me wrong, but having that extended warranty pretty much saved me on this one. I am a Custom Stereo Istaller by trade so I'm extremely familiar with a lot of the things handled in a lot of these DIY's, but as long as those of us that have purchased a BRAND NEW car DO that, GET the EXTENDED warranty if possible.. especially when dealing with "electronic" parts.. because for as long as I have been dealing with them I've come to find out that some parts last forever, some fail within the first few trys. THATS why a warranty is a GOOD thing. Once again, SORRY for the novel! __________________ 370Z SP 7AT Last edited by Tino2fasT; 04-07-2012 at 03:50 PM.

04-07-2012, 05:48 PM	#7 (permalink)
onzedge A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Battle Lake MN Age: 65 Posts: 183,964 Drives: 370Z 240Z Rep Power: 2684738	Mr. Kenchan, I have been trying to practice egressing the Z without using the steering wheel for leverage. I settled on a technique. 1. Undo seatbelt 2. Open driver's door 3. Rotate upper body counter-clockwise 4. Outstretch both arms 5. Bend waist until palms touch the ground 6. Using palms in a walking motion pull until knees are clear of the door sill 7. Drop to knees but keep feet elevated 8. Crawl away from vehicle until feet are clear 9. Stand up Thoughts? Suggestions? __________________ Koni\|Swift\|Michelin\|Motordyne\|Berk\|RJM Performance\|Gates\|SPL\|Motul\|Technafit\|Ate Super Blue\|Hawk Tommy Kaira\|Momo\|Optima\|Hella\|Hotchkis\|Red Line\|ZSpeed\|Stillen\|B&M\|H&R

04-07-2012, 07:11 PM	#12 (permalink)
GaleForce A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 21,749 Drives: Varis Arising II Rep Power: 51866	On a side note, the potential "Egressing DIY" will need a supplement for those who choose not to wear a seat belt. I didn't realize people still do that in 2012 until I notice a thread complete with poll about that very thing on this very forum. Those poor bastards would hit a road block from step one. __________________ >>>GaleForce's Build<<< >>>FaceBook @3GsCustoms<<<>>>Instagram @GaleForce370z<<< Varis Kamikaze-Z

04-09-2012, 02:42 PM	#15 (permalink)
zero A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,259 Drives: MK 7.5 Golf R Rep Power: 24	[/QUOTE] This part does not look like 500+ dollars part. The motor got powered, then turn and drive the spur gear, spur gear turned the lock column shaft up or down. The 2 micro switches detected spur gear position and then send signal to BCM. __________________

03-30-2012, 04:06 PM	#2 (permalink)
MyZ4U2C Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 448 Drives: 40th Z #51, 15 FozXT Rep Power: 556	Gives me hope, lets continue to report this to the NFTSA as last I checked today, only 7 reports total for 2009 - 2010 Z vehicles

04-04-2012, 08:13 PM	#3 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141522	Rhd it's worth a try if outside warranty period.

04-07-2012, 05:37 PM	#6 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141522	tino- you missed the point of the DIY. read the first page again why i made it. having extended warranty does no good for me.

04-09-2012, 12:37 PM	#14 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141522	this is a question for AXW and KORRUPT...or anyone that actually took apart a broken steering lock. if we were to just remove the spur gear in the pict below, would this mean we would be removing the root cause of the failing steering lock problem? we wont have steering lock feature as the motor and pinion will just spin inside, but i think it was the spur gear that was jamming that causes this problem in the first place. any thoughts? where is the detection pads/pins that sends signal back to the BCM? is it part of the large gear or no? The big white gear seen on the left...

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