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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang May I recommend Dr. Colorchip over Nissan's touchup. Touch up paint is difficult to apply cleanly. Dr. Colorchip comes out 100x better, usually. i'll look into

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Old 04-30-2013, 09:45 AM   #16 (permalink)
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May I recommend Dr. Colorchip over Nissan's touchup. Touch up paint is difficult to apply cleanly. Dr. Colorchip comes out 100x better, usually.
i'll look into it. i mean i have a few small ones on my hood that i have already touched up and they look fine only i know where they are (unless you put your face right up on my hood lol

this stuff seems like it is pretty good but i'd love to see a review.
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Yep- seems like clear plasti-dip.

Seems to be basically zero actual detailer reviews of it so far....
Kinda, here's the half a review I have seen

If a true 3M clear bra is 7/10, this is a 5.5 because it yellows easier.
What I'm not getting is that you can take it off with your fingernail... Meaning a rock would chew through that shít in 5 seconds
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Kinda, here's the half a review I have seen

If a true 3M clear bra is 7/10, this is a 5.5 because it yellows easier.
What I'm not getting is that you can take it off with your fingernail... Meaning a rock would chew through that shít in 5 seconds
Direction of force is different. And a rock will not apply constant force to one area.

And the amount adhesion has no correlation with its ability to protect paint.
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Direction of force is different. And a rock will not apply constant force to one area.

And the amount adhesion has no correlation with its ability to protect paint.
I understand, but if a rock has chipped my clear bra in 2 places, I'm sure it will tear this product a new aśshole, and a rock hits at probably 50-500 times more force.
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Sounds like testing is in order. Get some metal sheet, paint it. Spray the clear on it.

Throw rocks.
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I ordered 2 cans of this to protect my g37 during my next cross country drive. I'll post a review then.

So far i've tried blue tape and a product called Road wrap. The Road wrap was extremely difficult to apply and started flapping against my car after 200 miles. Blue tape is pretty effective if applied carefully, but it draws too much attention.
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Sounds like testing is in order. Get some metal sheet, paint it. Spray the clear on it.

Throw rocks.
i'll see what i got at home haha
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I think I will try it as a cone mark protector at the next drift event. Hate rubbing those marks off my paint.
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I ordered 2 cans of this to protect my g37 during my next cross country drive. I'll post a review then.

So far i've tried blue tape and a product called Road wrap. The Road wrap was extremely difficult to apply and started flapping against my car after 200 miles. Blue tape is pretty effective if applied carefully, but it draws too much attention.
not on a blue Z

well until it starts to peel then kinda shows lol
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IMO, this kind of product isn't meant to deter typical rock chips, but things such as bug guts, dirt, etc, that would possibly damage or embed itself into the paint.

While the smallest of pebbles may not leave marks with this stuff, I think it's kinda silly to compare a this type of coating with a true clear bra.
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Yeah man. I had a rock darn near gnaw my arm off once. Nasty little buggers. Sharp teeth.
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Yeah man. I had a rock darn near gnaw my arm off once. Nasty little buggers. Sharp teeth.
Was that a pet rock?
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We'll I grabbed this off Rennlist forum as a review thought I would share the results to this forum by SBPORSCHE.


I'd like to share my experience with this product in hopes that others might have a better experience. In short I followed the directions to a "T" watched the videos online, practiced my technique etc.... And still ended up not putting on enough product, so I ended up with a terrible looking result, and then a monster of a project to remove.

Here is what my experience was:
After driving to go pick up the product, and then watching an hour or so of all the videos of it I could find online- It then took me a almost three hours to wash and then mask and then wax the front end of the car. I'd recently done a clay bar to remove all contaminants....Otherwise I'd add in that time. Spraying on the product took 30 or so minutes. Some of the challenges that come up included Breeze blowing the material, Bugs landing in it while wet(be sure to have toothpicks handy) . Family needing my attention -make sure your spouse and kids know this will be an all day commitment. The last challenge being that it did not "feel good" as I was prepping and applying the product- usually when I'm working on my car I'm in heaven..I'm guessing that I got this feeling because everything that I've done to my "baby" has always felt/been top notch. I think because I felt I was maybe cutting corners(rather than having a true clear bra applied) it didn't feel enjoyable.

At the end of the day I had a car that looked like a patchwork quilt of smooth and then bumpy "orange peel" texture. In hindsight I must not have put enough of the product on, but as I was doing it, I thought for sure I had put too much on ..... and was going to get drips any moment. It was extremely hard to see the product on my white paint. I should have had a clue that I had not put enough on in that I only used 1can for the whole front end. But you only have a total of 10 minutes for application... So you have to just take it one section at a time and hope you got enough- but not too much. How anyone could do that -I have no idea.
After discovering this morning that it still looked as terrible as it did yesterday I decided I'd better get to removing the product before it really hardened and became resistant to water.
I spent 2 hours trying to remove the product from my car by scratching it off with my fingernails in less than dime size bits at a time. I'd normally never apply finger nail to paint. But this was the only way to scratch it off. Then I remembered one of the reviews I'd read on a corvette forum where the guy was complaining that it came off with high pressure water in a wash your own car garage. Luckily---sort of.... The product blasted right off.... But then (after paying as much for the use of the high pressure hose as the product) I got home and found that the car was covered in an adhesive like material that was all over the front end. Just like when you pull duct tape off of something. I spent three hours using a microfiber cloth and some quick wax and elbow grease to get all of it off. Then spent a couple of hours ( it became a blur at that point) re-clay baring the car and then polishing and then waxing. Thank god I've been able to return my beauty back to her former glory. Of course it's now 7:30pm and I haven't seen my family all weekend. I did learn however that I would be smart to not be penny wise and pound foolish in the future....and that I must really really want a clear bra.
If it was enjoyable that would be one thing, since we all love wasting time pampering our cars...but this felt like work, and I could easily have made enough money in a tiny sliver of a fraction of the time that this took to have paid someone to do a professional clear bra.
I bet the product could work as advertised --- I just wouldn't ever take the time to practice my technique enough to become a pro....and even then it would be really hard to know whether you had enough to actually protect against rock chips.
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