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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z With all the other symptoms it sounds like the steering wheel position sensor and the yaw sensor are disagreeing and the car assumes it needs to

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Old 03-14-2014, 05:10 PM   #31 (permalink)
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With all the other symptoms it sounds like the steering wheel position sensor and the yaw sensor are disagreeing and the car assumes it needs to correct. I still think the root cause is something more serious than the steering wheel/SWPS being out of adjustment. But I'm no expert.
That's what I'm thinking. Is the pic the issue now? If those threads slipped from the hit then that's what let go.
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Is this a problem? The lines don't match?
I dunno, I don't remember seeing that under my hood (but then I've never really inspected the steering column mechanicals) so I'm assuming that's where the steering column connects to the rest of the steering. If the splines have slipped, that would cause the steering wheel to be cocked which would cause the VDC/TCS/et al to malfunction. It also sounds like something that could happen when you hit something hard. My guess is that you've found the problem. But it's just a guess.

Edit: If you hit hard enough to cause that connector to slip, you may have other damage. Get it checked by a pro.
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I dunno, I don't remember seeing that under my hood (but then I've never really inspected the steering column mechanicals) so I'm assuming that's where the steering column connects to the rest of the steering. If the splines have slipped, that would cause the steering wheel to be cocked which would cause the VDC/TCS/et al to malfunction. It also sounds like something that could happen when you hit something hard. My guess is that you've found the problem. But it's just a guess.

Edit: If you hit hard enough to cause that connector to slip, you may have other damage. Get it checked by a pro.
Well that's not it. One spindle is larger and square vs small and V shaped for the rest. It only goes into the knuckle one way.
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I'm out of ideas. Unless someone else can come up with something, I say take it to a shop that knows steering/suspensions.
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I'm out of ideas. Unless someone else can come up with something, I say take it to a shop that knows steering/suspensions.
Same here. I unplugged the battery to remove the steering wheel which I couldn't because I don't have an anti theft torque bit. So I went to the store to get one and now I can't get the yaw to activate like before. So the battery reset the system or I'm just unlucky as **** like I always am!! I'm now scared to death to turn right because I'm afraid the brakes will lock up and I'll hit a driver in the other lane.

The steering wheels still off which I hate to the left.
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Good luck finding the problem and stay safe. Let us know what you find out. I am curious (yellow).

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With the YAW light on. Your sensor on the rack needs reset by the dealer. It maybe affecting your stability control. The computer thinks the car needs help and is appling the brakes.
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With the YAW light on. Your sensor on the rack needs reset by the dealer. It maybe affecting your stability control. The computer thinks the car needs help and is appling the brakes.
So I have to hit the kill switch, and let the dealer do their thing?

Wouldn't a brand new Hunter alignment machine plugged into the obd2 port do the same thing? I paid for a life time alignment so I'm going back again tomorrow. I want my wheel dead nuts! He'll probably try a recal for the 4 time after that.

Again, as of this moment though everything is fine and it's not applying brakes but the wheel is slightly off.
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Do all the alignments you like. Still won't do anything for the sensor. The sensor it's self has to be reset. I ran into the sensor problem when I did my LTH's.
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Do all the alignments you like. Still won't do anything for the sensor. The sensor it's self has to be reset. I ran into the sensor problem when I did my LTH's.
I remember. Hence why I refused to take apart my steering when I did my LTH.

But what I'm saying is the Hunter plugs into the ecu and CAN reset everything. I'm just not sure the tech is resetting it right since the wheel is still crooked. He did it 3 times. First time he did it cause that was the final alignment step. Second time I left for home and the yaw light was constantly on. Third time was when I left for home again the light was off but the yaw kicked in and applied the brakes. Since then I've pulled the battery and haven't had another issue.

I still want to head back to get the wheel perfect, he'll reset a 4 time, and I hope its over with.
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