Swift springs review!!!!!

scionide · 12-27-2013, 03:21 PM

I'm planning on getting front & rear camber arms in the next few months. My rear camber (-2.1 and 2.2) and toe (.17 and .14 or something) are both in spec but not ideal for tracking, I'm looking to reduce my camber and overall toe.

My question is, do I need toe arms? Or will I still have enough adjustability with the stock arm. I'm lowered on swifts as well.

equalme · 12-27-2013, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by scionide

I'm planning on getting front & rear camber arms in the next few months. My rear camber (-2.1 and 2.2) and toe (.17 and .14 or something) are both in spec but not ideal for tracking, I'm looking to reduce my camber and overall toe.

My question is, do I need toe arms? Or will I still have enough adjustability with the stock arm. I'm lowered on swifts as well.

For tracking, SPL rear camber arms and toe bolts. Toe bolts are $25 so no reason not to get them.

synolimit · 12-28-2013, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by equalme

For tracking, SPL rear camber arms and toe bolts. Toe bolts are $25 so no reason not to get them.

The reason not to get them is an eccentric bolt can slip and lose all alignment on the track. You're better off to get or make your own eccentric lockout kit like I did and get traction arms to adjust toe and camber arms for camber.

scionide · 12-28-2013, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by synolimit

The reason not to get them is an eccentric bolt can slip and lose all alignment on the track. You're better off to get or make your own eccentric lockout kit like I did and get traction arms to adjust toe and camber arms for camber.

Is there a certain amount of toe to not go over when adjusting toe via the traction arms, since traction arms also effect bumpsteer. I've read that ideally you want to adjust the toe via the midlink but..to do so without eccentric bolts then you have to either go a true coilover setup or buy SPL's 700-800 mid links.

If any of the track gurus could chime in on this too

synolimit · 12-28-2013, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by scionide

Is there a certain amount of toe to not go over when adjusting toe via the traction arms, since traction arms also effect bumpsteer. I've read that ideally you want to adjust the toe via the midlink but..to do so without eccentric bolts then you have to either go a true coilover setup or buy SPL's 700-800 mid links.

If any of the track gurus could chime in on this too

That I don't know. Guess I'll have to see when I align.

I just looked at some alignment sheets, I don't even see bumpsteer on there. Is it just a feeling when on the track? Every bump changes the severity of steer depending how much you effect it with certain parts, ride height etc?

scionide · 12-28-2013, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit

That I don't know. Guess I'll have to see when I align.

I just looked at some alignment sheets, I don't even see bumpsteer on there. Is it just a feeling when on the track? Every bump changes the severity of steer depending how much you effect it with certain parts, ride height etc?

Yea bumpsteer is how much the compression causes the wheels to toe while cornering, not much of an issue during street driving. I found an old thread with other members discussing it, it causes the rather unsettling "floating" feeling and the rear end feels unstable. I felt it at Big Willow and it was pretty sketchy, I'm fairly sure in my case it's mostly because of my alignment not being optimal.

synolimit · 12-28-2013, 04:16 PM

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Yea bumpsteer is how much the compression causes the wheels to toe while cornering, not much of an issue during street driving. I found an old thread with other members discussing it, it causes the rather unsettling "floating" feeling and the rear end feels unstable. I felt it at Big Willow and it was pretty sketchy, I'm fairly sure in my case it's mostly because of my alignment not being optimal.

I feel it now stock. Very scary. I figure change all bushings to solid from spl, plus arms etc, I have a lockout out kit for the toe bolts and camber bolt and I shouldn't have any bumpsteer.

KaienZ34 · 12-27-2013, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by scionide

I'm planning on getting front & rear camber arms in the next few months. My rear camber (-2.1 and 2.2) and toe (.17 and .14 or something) are both in spec but not ideal for tracking, I'm looking to reduce my camber and overall toe.

My question is, do I need toe arms? Or will I still have enough adjustability with the stock arm. I'm lowered on swifts as well.

Toe arms no, toe bolts yes please.

scionide · 12-27-2013, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34

Toe arms no, toe bolts yes please.

Yea screw it I'm just gonna get the whole package. If only eccentrics didn't slip..

*edit* nvm!

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scionide Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: so-cal Posts: 436 Drives: 11 370z PW 6mt Rep Power: 16	I'm planning on getting front & rear camber arms in the next few months. My rear camber (-2.1 and 2.2) and toe (.17 and .14 or something) are both in spec but not ideal for tracking, I'm looking to reduce my camber and overall toe. My question is, do I need toe arms? Or will I still have enough adjustability with the stock arm. I'm lowered on swifts as well.