Swift springs review!!!!!

ZForce · 05-09-2011, 11:35 PM

Reposting this for those looking for the OEM stock height to determind how much drop Swift has and how much more they need to settle.

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Originally Posted by tsolin01

So what's the measurement from your fender to the ground through the center of the wheel? Stock height is supposed to be 27.87 in front, 27.99 in rear.

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Originally Posted by ZForce

26.75 Fr & 27.00 Rr

So that would calculate to be a difference in drop for the Front to be 1.12 drop and for the Rear it would be 0.99 drop

Thanks, I can live with this as it,s only a gnats arse difference from the springs rated drop at 1.2 Front and 1.0 drop for the Rear.

ZForce · 05-10-2011, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

I know most people freak out about now being able to get the camber back into factory specs, but I'm loving the fact that I can run enough camber to actually grip now. Still don't have my exact alignment dialed in, but I'm loving the improvements here.

I think I could use some spacers for the stock rims though

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

I'm trying to figure out what size spacers to go with.... I think I'll need at least 25's out back.

Not here, I have been out of spec for the last 15k miles which is probably how I was able to get 26k off the OEM 050 tires. And that was running performance settings over tire life settings.

Spacers...haha...a change of mind.

What I am interested in seeing from members probably more so than the drop photos IS the alignment specs. This will give prospective buyers of the Swift springs an idea if they will need ANY kind of camber kits, be it front or rears. Of course that would depend on the driving style and preference along with a major decision to run with a setup for performance or run with a setting for tire life.

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Originally Posted by speedworks

Got the broke lugnut off, so finished it today. Took it for a spin, car rides great, and it looks great. Now I just need the bronze f14s to show up, and do an alignment.

Cool, post up some alignment specs and photos.

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Originally Posted by Ron

Here's how mine turned out.

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Originally Posted by Baer383

That's a nice drop looks similar to mine

good job

OF ALIGNMENT SPECS!

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Originally Posted by BeachZTT

Rears installed this afternoon and I will get the fronts on tomorrow.

Teaser pics...

Ahhhh....how sweet is Black Cherry.

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Originally Posted by KingZee

I still have stock wheels on mine as well and a steep *** driveway...what's the height after the drop from the center of the wheel to the fender?

It varies from car to car. Both 370Z's in my garage have 26.75 Fr & 27.00 with passenger Rear being 27.25.

It will take some miles for them to settle in.

OEM Stock height is: Fr 27.87 & Rr 27.99

Swift drop would take them to: Fr 26.67 & Rr 26.99

ZForce · 05-10-2011, 01:11 AM

Ok here are both alignment spec sheets for PG and Red. Note both cars are twins with identical mods. Also the alignment sheet is broken into halves, the top half is "Before Measurements" and bottom half is "Current Measurements" or after adjustment. Alignment done on Hunter Rack.

Obviously the fronts on the PG are wild with the difference between left and right being a 0.5 difference. This is where I would say not everyone is going to have this large of a difference. Notice the Red spec sheet, there is only 0.1 difference between left and right.

The rears on both PG and Red are fully adjustable with rear camber kits and toe bolts installed. I can dial in just about any toe and camber. I will probably run with this toe setting for front and back and see how tire wear is after a few thousand miles. I will want to try next time around for a toe of 0.2 Fr and 0.0 Rr. This current setting will give me a bit more tire life with the large positive toe settings.

The first setting I had on the PG was the Rr camber at -1.6 & -1.5 which felt real slow turning in. Hence the staggered difference with more negative camber up Front -1.2 & -1.7 and then in Rear -1.0 & -1.1 provided much quicker steering response and turn in.

I would have preferred up front with -1.3 to -1.5 BUT after two tries on the alignment rack and they did settle after the first alignment (one weeks worth of driving at about 120 miles). I am faced with this large difference in negative camber between front right and front left. A control arm will fix this, but will have to wait at $500 a pop per car.

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whoady4shoady · 05-10-2011, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by kielbasa16

Another happy Swift customer, along with H&Rs

What model# spacers did you go with? Got a link? Any rub?

KamiSpeed · 05-10-2011, 10:49 AM

I know I keep popping up annoyingly haha but just wanted to let the members who are interested that there are only 10 sets left for this upcoming shipment. Pre-order now before it's too late!!!

whoady4shoady · 05-10-2011, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bigdog1250

*Note my camber is pretty negative right now, so the tops of the wheels will be pushed out more after the alignment (should look more flush). Also if you plan on going with bigger rubber down the line, 15x20 spacers are the better choice.

If you're staying with the stocks tire sizes, 20x25 might be the wiser choice. Either way I'll have better pics up on Saturday showing the car Post-alignment. And i'll use a better camera so the lighting will be better.

Im just curious, but what are the pros and cons of either going with smaller spacers with a wider tire or larger spacers with the stock tires? Im debating on which to do once I get the springs in. I have a stock Nismo by the way.

Im guessing the car will sit lower with a wider tire do to les sidewall, and the ride quality will suffer slightly correct? Performance wise though, the wider tire is usually better correct?

BeachZTT · 05-10-2011, 12:23 PM

Swifts are installed. Not a bad job at all. Took the front struts to a friend's shop and used their wall mounted "Strut-Tamer". Initial thoughts... Look great and feel great. Lots of benefit with no sacrafice.

Thanks to Swift and KamiSpeed! Definately one of my best "bang for the buck" mods ever.

KamiSpeed · 05-10-2011, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BeachZTT

Swifts are installed. Not a bad job at all. Took the front struts to a friend's shop and used their wall mounted "Strut-Tamer". Initial thoughts... Look great and feel great. Lots of benefit with no sacrafice.

Thanks to Swift and KamiSpeed! Definately one of my best "bang for the buck" mods ever.

car looks great!!! 1st roadster I've seen on them

whoady4shoady · 05-10-2011, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron

Here's how mine turned out.

That looks clean as hell. Did you use a camber kit and spacers?

BeachZTT · 05-10-2011, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by KamiSpeed

car looks great!!! 1st roadster I've seen on them

Thanks! Now we know for sure they work well on the vert.

My schedule is tight for the next couple of weeks so I will do spacers and get an allignment when things slow down.

ZForce · 05-10-2011, 11:32 PM

BeachZTT, I reconize the white box in your driveway, it's the fun box! The Roadster's stance just got a hella lot better looking.

In for photos of your alignment spec sheet!

Ron · 05-11-2011, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by whoady4shoady

That looks clean as hell. Did you use a camber kit and spacers?

Thanks! Yes, I installed spc camber arms front and back and 20mm spacers on all 4s

Baer383 · 05-11-2011, 09:48 PM

I think after a while everyone on this site will sell/trade their other springs and jump on the Swift train.

KamiSpeed · 05-12-2011, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383

I think after a while everyone on this site will sell/trade their other springs and jump on the Swift train.

and hopefully buy from us

AlphaSnacks · 05-12-2011, 08:10 PM

When I first saw the 370Z convertible I thought it looked terrible. And now I know why: because it sits awkward as hell from the factory (especially with the standard, poorly offset wheels). And now that I've been meeting and seeing guys with dropped verts?

Good Lord am I in absolute love. My opinion has completely changed - it's beautiful!

05-10-2011, 01:11 AM	#588 (permalink)
ZForce A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Roseville, CA Posts: 2,359 Drives: 09 370Z Tour + Sport Rep Power: 20	Alignment spec sheets Ok here are both alignment spec sheets for PG and Red. Note both cars are twins with identical mods. Also the alignment sheet is broken into halves, the top half is "Before Measurements" and bottom half is "Current Measurements" or after adjustment. Alignment done on Hunter Rack. Obviously the fronts on the PG are wild with the difference between left and right being a 0.5 difference. This is where I would say not everyone is going to have this large of a difference. Notice the Red spec sheet, there is only 0.1 difference between left and right. The rears on both PG and Red are fully adjustable with rear camber kits and toe bolts installed. I can dial in just about any toe and camber. I will probably run with this toe setting for front and back and see how tire wear is after a few thousand miles. I will want to try next time around for a toe of 0.2 Fr and 0.0 Rr. This current setting will give me a bit more tire life with the large positive toe settings. The first setting I had on the PG was the Rr camber at -1.6 & -1.5 which felt real slow turning in. Hence the staggered difference with more negative camber up Front -1.2 & -1.7 and then in Rear -1.0 & -1.1 provided much quicker steering response and turn in. I would have preferred up front with -1.3 to -1.5 BUT after two tries on the alignment rack and they did settle after the first alignment (one weeks worth of driving at about 120 miles). I am faced with this large difference in negative camber between front right and front left. A control arm will fix this, but will have to wait at $500 a pop per car. . Last edited by ZForce; 05-10-2011 at 01:15 AM. Reason: Added "current"

05-10-2011, 10:49 AM	#590 (permalink)
KamiSpeed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 5,888 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 25	I know I keep popping up annoyingly haha but just wanted to let the members who are interested that there are only 10 sets left for this upcoming shipment. Pre-order now before it's too late!!! __________________ KAMISPEED \| SHOP 370Z PERFORMANCE PARTS & MODS \| SUPPORT@KAMISPEED.COM KAMI SPEED REVIEWS \| FINANCE YOUR PARTS WITH US \| MILITARY & FIRST RESPONDERS PRE-ORDER DEPOSIT PROGRAM \| HKS MASTER SELLER

05-10-2011, 12:23 PM	#592 (permalink)
BeachZTT Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 746 Drives: '10 BC ZR T/S/Nav Rep Power: 16	Swifts are installed. Not a bad job at all. Took the front struts to a friend's shop and used their wall mounted "Strut-Tamer". Initial thoughts... Look great and feel great. Lots of benefit with no sacrafice. Thanks to Swift and KamiSpeed! Definately one of my best "bang for the buck" mods ever. __________________ '10 ZR Black Cherry Sport/Touring/Nav, Swift Springs, Stillen G3s, 15mm-F 20mm-R Spacers, SPC, Spoiler Solutions Rear Wing, Stubby Antenna

05-11-2011, 09:48 PM	#598 (permalink)
Baer383 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Lawrenceville,Ga Posts: 4,293 Drives: My foot up your azz Rep Power: 29	I think after a while everyone on this site will sell/trade their other springs and jump on the Swift train. __________________ 2013 ZL1 754 rwhp 747 rwtq

05-12-2011, 08:10 PM	#600 (permalink)
AlphaSnacks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Windermere, FL Posts: 1,618 Drives: '13 XKR-S, '10 370Z Rep Power: 18	When I first saw the 370Z convertible I thought it looked terrible. And now I know why: because it sits awkward as hell from the factory (especially with the standard, poorly offset wheels). And now that I've been meeting and seeing guys with dropped verts? Good Lord am I in absolute love. My opinion has completely changed - it's beautiful! jlbrenne likes this.

05-10-2011, 11:32 PM	#596 (permalink)
ZForce A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Roseville, CA Posts: 2,359 Drives: 09 370Z Tour + Sport Rep Power: 20	BeachZTT, I reconize the white box in your driveway, it's the fun box! The Roadster's stance just got a hella lot better looking. In for photos of your alignment spec sheet!

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