Eibach sway bar set?

ClemsonWill · 09-15-2010, 11:10 AM

Has anyone tried them? Any comparisons to the hotchkis, whiteline, or stillen?

Thanks!

Push370zzz · 09-17-2010, 12:43 PM

Nope, but the Hotchkis are great just put mine on last night. Will have real impressions at the track tomorrow but they firm the **** out of the handling. Also comes with nozzles to grease the bushings so you dont have to remove them and greaser up every year.

zero · 10-16-2010, 11:50 PM

I got Eiback sways installed today. I drove a little and definitely felt the difference comparing to stock. The car is felt more planted for all four corners and positively less body roll during the turn and cornering

. Both front and rear sways are adjustable. Here are the spec’s comparing to stock:

FRONT STOCK SWAYS are 26.5mm / 416 pounds per square inch

Eibach FRONT Sways are 32mm OD hollow tube with red color finished.
1st setting is 730 pounds per square inch
2nd setting is 900 pounds per square inch

REAR STOCK SWAYS are 24.3mm / 374 pounds per square inch

EIBACH REAR SWAYS are 29mm OD hollow tube with red color finished.
1st setting is 627 pounds per square inch
2nd setting is 741 pounds per square inch
3rd setting is 860 pounds per square inch

Mine is set for 1st setting on the front and 2nd setting on the rear.

PaulZ370 · 02-20-2012, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zero

I got Eiback sways installed today. I drove a little and definitely felt the difference comparing to stock. The car is felt more planted for all four corners and positively less body roll during the turn and cornering

. Both front and rear sways are adjustable. Here are the spec’s comparing to stock:

FRONT STOCK SWAYS are 26.5mm / 416 pounds per square inch

Eibach FRONT Sways are 32mm OD hollow tube with red color finished.
1st setting is 730 pounds per square inch
2nd setting is 900 pounds per square inch

REAR STOCK SWAYS are 24.3mm / 374 pounds per square inch

EIBACH REAR SWAYS are 29mm OD hollow tube with red color finished.
1st setting is 627 pounds per square inch
2nd setting is 741 pounds per square inch
3rd setting is 860 pounds per square inch

Mine is set for 1st setting on the front and 2nd setting on the rear.

Can anyone help me out with how the settings on the sway bars effect the car's handling? ie: stiffer in the front cause more oversteer or undetsteer, same for the rear - also, not tracking the car, just spirited road driving at best. Doing The Dragon in April, what would be a good setting for a good run (not overly aggressive)? Thanks - Best responses get Rep!

UPDATE: Never Mind! I found the Thread : Suspension adjustments and how they affect handling

Jackson · 02-22-2012, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulZ370

Can anyone help me out with how the settings on the sway bars effect the car's handling? ie: stiffer in the front cause more oversteer or undetsteer, same for the rear - also, not tracking the car, just spirited road driving at best. Doing The Dragon in April, what would be a good setting for a good run (not overly aggressive)? Thanks - Best responses get Rep!

UPDATE: Never Mind! I found the Thread : Suspension adjustments and how they affect handling

The stiffer the front bar is set the more understeer you will notice. Use the adjustment holes closer to the center for a stiffer rate. The outer holes will allow more flex and make the rate softer.

Depending on your set up, driving style and driving conditions, I would set up the car for understeer with a stiffer front setting first and softer rear setting. This will allow you to get used to the car without having too drastic of a change. You can increase the rear rate and decrease the front rate if you feel you need the car to rotate more.

PaulZ370 · 02-24-2012, 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jackson

The stiffer the front bar is set the more understeer you will notice. Use the adjustment holes closer to the center for a stiffer rate. The outer holes will allow more flex and make the rate softer.

Depending on your set up, driving style and driving conditions, I would set up the car for understeer with a stiffer front setting first and softer rear setting. This will allow you to get used to the car without having too drastic of a change. You can increase the rear rate and decrease the front rate if you feel you need the car to rotate more.

Thanks Jackson - looking forward to the install. Anxious to see how much of a difference I'm going to feel behind the wheel

zero · 10-25-2010, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elia Cid

Zero , thanks!

I ‘m just wondering why such a huge difference in OEM front bar numbers?

Stillen front sway bar hole is 720 lbs. and is only rated at 28.6% stiffer?

Eibach front 1st hole 730 lbs. just 10 lbs. difference and its rated at a whopping 176 % stiffer?

Hotchkis front, 1st hole is even larger by 29% for a total of 205 %

I also found interesting the #2 hole is almost equal in lbs. but really off in actual % numbers.

Stillen rear bar #2 , 920 lbs. 70% stiffer.

Hotchiks rear bar #2, ? lbs. 75% stiffer.

Eibach rear bar # 3 is only 860 lbs. 60 lbs. less then Stillen and is rated at 230 %, 160% higher then Stillen?

I’m I reading this wrong?

Thanks,

Alex

The Stillen numbers might have posted incorrectly. 28.6% stiffer will give 535 lbs/in. Should it be ~70+% stiffer? Someone might want to ask Stillen to confirm it.

Here is a conversion to percentage on Eibach.

OEM front : 26.5mm - 416 lbs/in
rear: 24.3mm - 374 lbs/in

Eibach
32mm OD front : 1st hole - ~176% (730 lbs/in) >>> ~76% stiffer than OE
2nd hole - ~217% (900 lbs/in) >>>>> 117 stiffer than OE

29mm OD rear : 1st hole - ~167% (625 lbs/in) >>>> 67% stiffer than OE
2nd hole - ~198% (741 lbs/in) >>>> 98% stiffer than OE
3rd hole - ~230% (860 lbs/in) >>>> 130% stiffer than OE

docaam · 10-17-2010, 01:03 AM

I have Hotchiks and very happy with it, its a must more like a turbo setup for the suspension

just felt at time it increased the understeer.

Only downpoint is that there are no setting in the front. Ebiach looks better but wait for reviews from different people before buying.

ClemsonWill · 10-17-2010, 06:12 AM

Thank you for the review Zero.

I think you are right Docaam. I'm still going to wait for more reviews.

zero · 10-18-2010, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClemsonWill

Thank you for the review Zero.

I think you are right Docaam. I'm still going to wait for more reviews.

Thanks, ClemsonWill. I'm probably the only Z with Eibach sways on the board. After driving for day I can tell you that the tires are more planted to the ground. It turns liked a go-cart. I am basically done with suspension mod and very happy with my current suspension setup.

NISMOFO · 10-17-2010, 07:33 PM

Sways are in my future as well. Wasn't sure if I wanted to keep the eibach springs on the car because They are so soft mainly in the rear, but I might keep them. I loved the way the full nismo s-tune felt on the 350....so I keep comparing to that. Definitely Would like to see more reviews on the different eibach sway bar settings as well.

ncheung85 · 10-18-2010, 09:07 PM

I just had my hotchkis installed this weekend. It feels really good.

I can probably compare the hotchkis with the eibach sway this weekend. If zero, let me test his car out.

(just playing)

Here the specs for the Hotchkis.

Front Sway Bar
35mm (Ø1-3/8") Hollow
Hole 1 = 205% Stiffer than Stock 370Z

Rear Sway Bar
27mm (Ø1.063") Hollow
Hole 1 = 40% Stiffer than Stock 370Z
Hole 2 = 75% Stiffer than Stock 370Z
Hole 3 = 120% Stiffer than Stock 370Z

.....Anything is better than stock.

zero · 10-18-2010, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ncheung85

I just had my hotchkis installed this weekend. It feels really good.

I can probably compare the hotchkis with the eibach sway this weekend. If zero, let me test his car out.

(just playing)

Here the specs for the Hotchkis.

Front Sway Bar
35mm (Ø1-3/8") Hollow
Hole 1 = 205% Stiffer than Stock 370Z

Rear Sway Bar
27mm (Ø1.063") Hollow
Hole 1 = 40% Stiffer than Stock 370Z
Hole 2 = 75% Stiffer than Stock 370Z
Hole 3 = 120% Stiffer than Stock 370Z

.....Anything is better than stock.

ncheung, you are right, anthing is better than stock. Are you planning for coil over? This coming Saturday should be a good test on suspension going through twists and turns. Yeah we can compare notes...you can drive mine and I can driver yours (J/K).

I was comparing spec's between hotchkis, eibach and whiteline. I ended up with the Eibach on price, quality, and spec’s. I want to reduce the understeer on my current rims and tires setup, bringing the z to more neutral. The Eibach front with the 1st hole is 175% stiffer than OE and the rear with 2nd hole is 199% stiffer than OE. This should reduce the understeer and if I need more reduce more I can set the rear to the 3rd hole.

ncheung85 · 10-18-2010, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zero

ncheung, you are right, anthing is better than stock. Are you planning for coil over? This coming Saturday should be a good test on suspension going through twists and turns. Yeah we can compare notes...you can drive mine and I can driver yours (J/K).

I was comparing spec's between hotchkis, eibach and whiteline. I ended up with the Eibach on price, quality, and spec’s. I want to reduce the understeer on my current rims and tires setup, bringing the z to more neutral. The Eibach front with the 1st hole is 175% stiffer than OE and the rear with 2nd hole is 199% stiffer than OE. This should reduce the understeer and if I need more reduce more I can set the rear to the 3rd hole.

I want to. I might get the coilovers that can be raised with a push of a button like the KW HLS because we got some nasty dips here in east LA.

On Saturday night, I went to the new AMC in Monterey Park. You should see the exit. LOL. Luckly, I shifted my exhaust tip all the way in that morning or else I would have damage my exhaust tip like my friend did on his lowered Integra. XD

And I got a 4 points ladder brace and 2 points rear brace, dont know if I should install them or sell them.

MYZ34 · 10-19-2010, 08:05 AM

hey "ZERO" could you post up some pics of the eibachs please?

09-15-2010, 11:10 AM	#1 (permalink)
ClemsonWill A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 12,045 Drives: a Civic VP! Rep Power: 445	Eibach sway bar set? Has anyone tried them? Any comparisons to the hotchkis, whiteline, or stillen? Thanks! __________________ Slightly modded

09-17-2010, 12:43 PM	#2 (permalink)
Push370zzz Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: NE Age: 40 Posts: 649 Drives: cars Rep Power: 17	Nope, but the Hotchkis are great just put mine on last night. Will have real impressions at the track tomorrow but they firm the **** out of the handling. Also comes with nozzles to grease the bushings so you dont have to remove them and greaser up every year. __________________ Range Rover Sport Supercharged Nissan 370z Touring + Sport

10-16-2010, 11:50 PM	#3 (permalink)
zero A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,259 Drives: MK 7.5 Golf R Rep Power: 23	I got Eiback sways installed today. I drove a little and definitely felt the difference comparing to stock. The car is felt more planted for all four corners and positively less body roll during the turn and cornering . Both front and rear sways are adjustable. Here are the spec’s comparing to stock: FRONT STOCK SWAYS are 26.5mm / 416 pounds per square inch Eibach FRONT Sways are 32mm OD hollow tube with red color finished. 1st setting is 730 pounds per square inch 2nd setting is 900 pounds per square inch REAR STOCK SWAYS are 24.3mm / 374 pounds per square inch EIBACH REAR SWAYS are 29mm OD hollow tube with red color finished. 1st setting is 627 pounds per square inch 2nd setting is 741 pounds per square inch 3rd setting is 860 pounds per square inch Mine is set for 1st setting on the front and 2nd setting on the rear. Z34-KangLF likes this. __________________

10-17-2010, 01:03 AM	#8 (permalink)
docaam A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Dubai Posts: 2,532 Drives: Z34/240z/Hakosuka Rep Power: 29	I have Hotchiks and very happy with it, its a must more like a turbo setup for the suspension just felt at time it increased the understeer. Only downpoint is that there are no setting in the front. Ebiach looks better but wait for reviews from different people before buying. __________________ Old 370Z SOLD but not forgotten 370Z 40th, G37s, S30 RBZ, Hakosuka Skyline

10-17-2010, 06:12 AM	#9 (permalink)
ClemsonWill A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 12,045 Drives: a Civic VP! Rep Power: 445	Thank you for the review Zero. I think you are right Docaam. I'm still going to wait for more reviews. __________________ Slightly modded

10-17-2010, 07:33 PM	#11 (permalink)
NISMOFO Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: McKinney, TX Posts: 269 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 17	Sways are in my future as well. Wasn't sure if I wanted to keep the eibach springs on the car because They are so soft mainly in the rear, but I might keep them. I loved the way the full nismo s-tune felt on the 350....so I keep comparing to that. Definitely Would like to see more reviews on the different eibach sway bar settings as well.

10-18-2010, 09:07 PM	#12 (permalink)
ncheung85 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Alhambra, CA Posts: 339 Drives: z Rep Power: 16	I just had my hotchkis installed this weekend. It feels really good. I can probably compare the hotchkis with the eibach sway this weekend. If zero, let me test his car out. (just playing) Here the specs for the Hotchkis. Front Sway Bar 35mm (Ø1-3/8") Hollow Hole 1 = 205% Stiffer than Stock 370Z Rear Sway Bar 27mm (Ø1.063") Hollow Hole 1 = 40% Stiffer than Stock 370Z Hole 2 = 75% Stiffer than Stock 370Z Hole 3 = 120% Stiffer than Stock 370Z .....Anything is better than stock. __________________ Injen \| Berk \| HKS \| Hotchkis \| Gtspec \| EVO-R \| Forgestar \| KW \| SPC \| Uprev Youtube

10-19-2010, 08:05 AM	#15 (permalink)
MYZ34 Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: brisbane AUS Posts: 111 Drives: 2009 370z 6spd Rep Power: 16	hey "ZERO" could you post up some pics of the eibachs please?

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