Would like some advice on brakes and rotors

tRidiot · 07-14-2021, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by OptionZero

Maybe just stop pretending you’re doing anything for performance reasons and just get the rotors you were gonna get all along?

Also, you left out the wheel width

Maybe you missed this statement from my original post?

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I don't race, don't drive hard and heavy (much), but considered maybe some slotted or drilled & slotted rotors - as much for aesthetics as anything, probably, but it never hurts to have a better brake setup.

Wheel width is 9.5/11, if that helps.

I'm not pretending anything. I asked for some help, I got some options, I said those looked pretty good.

I was clear and upfront that this isn't all about performance, that it's not all about economics, but that appearance does play a role.

Did I do something wrong that annoyed you? Seems some people think appearance shouldn't have a role in the decision, when people spend hundreds or thousands on 1000% appearance-oriented mods on their car on this forum - and no one bats an eyelash at it.

We want performance AND looks from our wheels.

We want performance AND looks from our body mods.

We want performance AND sound improvement from exhaust mods.

There are tradeoffs to all of these things.

Why would I feel guilty because I think drilled and slotted rotors look cool? Answer - I don't.

Why would someone want to attempt to make me feel guilty for spending my hard-earned money in the way I want to? I'm not looking for your or anyone's validation, I asked for some options, a direction to look, since I didn't really know. Now I've been pointed in some directions, which helped me focus my research and I have been given some great options. I thought that what this forum was all about.

But some people feel the need to belittle the choices others make. That's ok, because those people aren't paying my bills, I am. So I get to make the choices.

Rusty · 07-14-2021, 07:19 PM

If you want drilled and slotted rotors. Go with the Z1 2 piece rotors. They will give you the looks you're after.

Pads, I've used the Yellowstuff pads. Great street pads, but dust some what.

Change your brake fluid to something like Motul 600. Also if you have a manual. Flush your clutch system out with it.

tRidiot · 07-15-2021, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

If you want drilled and slotted rotors. Go with the Z1 2 piece rotors. They will give you the looks you're after.

Pads, I've used the Yellowstuff pads. Great street pads, but dust some what.

Change your brake fluid to something like Motul 600. Also if you have a manual. Flush your clutch system out with it.

Z1 2 piece are almost 3x as much as the PowerStop. I don't think I can swing that. I COULD, but that's a bit more than I'm willing to do right now - gotta buy my wife a new(ish) vehicle probably in the next 6-8 weeks or so.

ZoomZ · 07-15-2021, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by tRidiot

Z1 2 piece are almost 3x as much as the PowerStop. I don't think I can swing that. I COULD, but that's a bit more than I'm willing to do right now - gotta buy my wife a new(ish) vehicle probably in the next 6-8 weeks or so.

Like I said, I love the looks of my STOPTECH slotted. They make drilled and slotted as well. good quality as well.

Yes, pads can be had for cheap and easily replaced.

Tractionless · 07-15-2021, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

Change your brake fluid to something like Motul 600. Also if you have a manual. Flush your clutch system out with it.

Curious to know if you're flushing and refilling that Motul yearly as suggested on the label. I've seen data demonstrating Motul attracts water at a much higher rate than other fluids and is why I chose Castrol SRF.

I used to use Motul in road racing motorcycles and noticed a softer lever as well as fade until changing to ATE.

Rusty · 07-15-2021, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tractionless

Curious to know if you're flushing and refilling that Motul yearly as suggested on the label. I've seen data demonstrating Motul attracts water at a much higher rate than other fluids and is why I chose Castrol SRF.

I used to use Motul in road racing motorcycles and noticed a softer lever as well as fade until changing to ATE.

Since I track. I'm now using Castrol SRF. I flush once a year. Both the brakes and clutch. When I was doing trackdays with the bike. I was using ATE until they changed it. Then I switched to Motul 660. My VRF has Castrol SRF in it now because of the Z. Plus my Power Wagon has Castrol SRF too.

ZoomZ · 07-16-2021, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

Since I track. I'm now using Castrol SRF. I flush once a year. Both the brakes and clutch. When I was doing trackdays with the bike. I was using ATE until they changed it. Then I switched to Motul 660. My VRF has Castrol SRF in it now because of the Z. Plus my Power Wagon has Castrol SRF too.

Is this the same:

https://www.baysideperformance.ca/ca...-fluid-1-liter

Rusty · 07-16-2021, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ZoomZ

Is this the same:

https://www.baysideperformance.ca/ca...-fluid-1-liter

Yep. Boy has it gone up in price.

ZoomZ · 07-17-2021, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

Yep. Boy has it gone up in price.

It must be Unicorn blood!

($97 USD

)

Well the RBF 600 works out to $40-45 CDN for a litre in my neck of the woods. That's an engine oil change, just to put things into perspective.

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Hotrodz · 07-16-2021, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

Since I track. I'm now using Castrol SRF. I flush once a year. Both the brakes and clutch. When I was doing trackdays with the bike. I was using ATE until they changed it. Then I switched to Motul 660. My VRF has Castrol SRF in it now because of the Z. Plus my Power Wagon has Castrol SRF too.

Castro SRF FTW! like Rusty I have been using it for years and is used by many track goers. I change it out yearly as well but it really is overkill. I have yet to see a change in performance or color. I know some track guys that don't change it for up to five years. It is the real deal and provides additional brake and clutch feel.

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Tractionless · 07-22-2021, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

Castro SRF FTW! like Rusty I have been using it for years and is used by many track goers. I change it out yearly as well but it really is overkill. I have yet to see a change in performance or color. I know some track guys that don't change it for up to five years. It is the real deal and provides additional brake and clutch feel.

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I respect that you change yearly with track use, cheap peace of mind!
Have you ever tested the fluid prior to flushing? If so I'm curious to the water %.

I use test strips and an electronic tester to determine when a flush is needed for my street car. Do the same for coolant. No reason to change either if they're still within the proper parameters.

Hotrodz · 07-22-2021, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Tractionless

I respect that you change yearly with track use, cheap peace of mind!

Have you ever tested the fluid prior to flushing? If so I'm curious to the water %.

I use test strips and an electronic tester to determine when a flush is needed for my street car. Do the same for coolant. No reason to change either if they're still within the proper parameters.

I have not, but I am going to check it out!

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Tractionless · 07-22-2021, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

Since I track. I'm now using Castrol SRF. I flush once a year. Both the brakes and clutch. When I was doing trackdays with the bike. I was using ATE until they changed it. Then I switched to Motul 660. My VRF has Castrol SRF in it now because of the Z. Plus my Power Wagon has Castrol SRF too.

Gotcha. Using SRF on the street due to the inherent nature of the Motul to absorb water. Used Motul on road racing motorcycles and noticed a mushy lever feel so I switched to ATE blue which never had an issue. Had to bleed the hell outta Motul during normal use. That was over 6 years ago. What has ATE changed since, other than no longer using blue color?

Rusty · 07-22-2021, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Tractionless

Gotcha. Using SRF on the street due to the inherent nature of the Motul to absorb water. Used Motul on road racing motorcycles and noticed a mushy lever feel so I switched to ATE blue which never had an issue. Had to bleed the hell outta Motul during normal use. That was over 6 years ago. What has ATE changed since, other than no longer using blue color?

When I was still doing trackdays with a bike. They had 2 colors. Amber and blue so the you could tell the difference when flushing a system. Then all of a sudden you couldn't get it anymore. When they started to import it again. They had to change to one color only and changed some of the properties in it to meet US standards or some other BS at that time from what I can remember.

Tractionless · 07-22-2021, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

When I was still doing trackdays with a bike. They had 2 colors. Amber and blue so the you could tell the difference when flushing a system. Then all of a sudden you couldn't get it anymore. When they started to import it again. They had to change to one color only and changed some of the properties in it to meet US standards or some other BS at that time from what I can remember.

10-4 same here and the stuff was great. I didn't realize when they ditched the blue they changed the formulation as well. Thanks!

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