What is needed to setup my suspension

2016 370z · 07-10-2017, 05:56 PM

Hi guys,

I am a total noob when it comes to the suspension game, but I want to have my car set up properly with all the right parts after I install coilovers. My goal is to run slightly lowered with an aggressive track setup that can go up to -3.0 camber in the front and up to -2.5 in the rear.

I understand that I will need upper control arms for the front for what I am looking to do but I am completely lost for what I need in the rear. From what I was told, I will be needing rear toe links, rear toe bolt and possible rear camber arms.

Is there something that is missing or unnecessary? I just don't want to be missing anything before I go get my alignment and corner balanced.

jchammond · 07-10-2017, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2016 370z

Hi guys,

I am a total noob when it comes to the suspension game, but I want to have my car set up properly with all the right parts after I install coilovers. My goal is to run slightly lowered with an aggressive track setup that can go up to -3.0 camber in the front and up to -2.5 in the rear.

I understand that I will need upper control arms for the front for what I am looking to do but I am completely lost for what I need in the rear. From what I was told, I will be needing rear toe links, rear toe bolt and possible rear camber arms.

Is there something that is missing or unnecessary? I just don't want to be missing anything before I go get my alignment and corner balanced.

PM [OptionZero] or read his thread,,,He know's how to set-up the aggressive stance!

Spooler · 07-10-2017, 06:12 PM

You will need toe bolts, camber eccentric lockouts, and Camber arms for the rear. Toe links are only used if you go to true coilovers for the rear.

2016 370z · 07-10-2017, 06:18 PM

Are these "true coilovers"? Sorry I am a total noob

GReddy

Rusty · 07-10-2017, 06:25 PM

Is this going to be a track car only? Or are you planning on running on the street too?

Hotrodz · 07-10-2017, 06:28 PM

Go to SPL websites and everything they have from bushings to camber arms and a arms. Check out Rusty's build thread a copy everything. Also I would not go more than -2.0 in the rear. Don't no how much track experience you have but -1.7 to -2.0 rear and -2.3 to -2.6 will be good to go for the most part. If dedicated track car then around -3.0 plus or minus depending on the track. Lots of variables depending on the track and if you want to complete in time attacks or some other competitive events.

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2016 370z · 07-10-2017, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

Is this going to be a track car only? Or are you planning on running on the street too?

I want it to be track ready, but it will be running on the street as well.

2016 370z · 07-10-2017, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

Go to SPL websites and everything they have from bushings to camber arms and a arms. Check out Rusty's build thread a copy everything. Also I would not go more than -2.0 in the rear. Don't no how much track experience you have but -1.7 to -2.0 rear and -2.3 to -2.6 will be good to go for the most part. If dedicated track car then around -3.0 plus or minus depending on the track. Lots of variables depending on the track and if you want to complete in time attacks or some other competitive events.

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Will do. Thank you for your input.

Rusty · 07-10-2017, 06:34 PM

What tires you planning on running? What sizes, rim specs too? Everything has to mate up.

2016 370z · 07-10-2017, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

What tires you planning on running? What sizes, rim specs too? Everything has to mate up.

I have a new set of S04 Pole Positions that were just mounted two days ago. They are 245/40/19 front and 285/35/19 rear. Wheels are stock 19 inch rays from sport package.

Hotrodz · 07-10-2017, 06:43 PM

No problem...tracking is expensive! If you are going to run the the same set of tires and rims on the street as you do on the the track you are going to burn through a bunch of tires. If your camber is going to be in the -3.0 range you are going to get some uneven wear. Get yourself a square setup on another set of rims, you can get a set of enkie's for around $1400 new and that way you can have a dedicated set of track tires. Also, except to spend between $3k to $7k if you want do it right. Remember your drive train is a big component in optimizing your suspension.

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Rusty · 07-10-2017, 06:45 PM

Have you ever done a trackday before?

Read this thread.

Track Day Best Practices - MUST READ

Your alignment settings are too far. Front camber should be -2.0. Rear camber -1.5 to -1.7 for you.

You will get a lot of understeer with your front tire size. Not big enough.

Hotrodz · 07-10-2017, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

What tires you planning on running? What sizes, rim specs too? Everything has to mate up.

What Rust said "Everything has to mate up!" I would say buy a Hotchkis front sway bar, get some better brake pads (yellow stuff), stainless steel brake lines and good brake fluid and head to the track and upgrade as you can. Also, if you have not done it get a 34 row oil cooler! Lost of stuff to run with the bulls!

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jchammond · 07-10-2017, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 2016 370z

I have a new set of S04 Pole Positions that were just mounted two days ago. They are 245/40/19 front and 285/35/19 rear. Wheels are stock 19 inch rays from sport package.

Those rear's will fit on the front...you could get another pair & use w/spacer's out back or bigger wheel's all over.

Hotrodz · 07-10-2017, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty

Have you ever done a trackday before?

Read this thread.

Track Day Best Practices - MUST READ

Your alignment settings are too far. Front camber should be -2.0. Rear camber -1.5 to -1.7 for you.

You will get a lot of understeer with your front tire size. Not big enough.

Perfect recommendation old tall wise one!

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07-10-2017, 05:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
2016 370z Base Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 101 Drives: 16 370z GM 6MT Rep Power: 8	What is needed to setup my suspension Hi guys, I am a total noob when it comes to the suspension game, but I want to have my car set up properly with all the right parts after I install coilovers. My goal is to run slightly lowered with an aggressive track setup that can go up to -3.0 camber in the front and up to -2.5 in the rear. I understand that I will need upper control arms for the front for what I am looking to do but I am completely lost for what I need in the rear. From what I was told, I will be needing rear toe links, rear toe bolt and possible rear camber arms. Is there something that is missing or unnecessary? I just don't want to be missing anything before I go get my alignment and corner balanced.

07-10-2017, 06:25 PM	#5 (permalink)
Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 68 Posts: 34,867 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684436	Is this going to be a track car only? Or are you planning on running on the street too? __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

07-10-2017, 06:28 PM	#6 (permalink)
Hotrodz Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684384	Go to SPL websites and everything they have from bushings to camber arms and a arms. Check out Rusty's build thread a copy everything. Also I would not go more than -2.0 in the rear. Don't no how much track experience you have but -1.7 to -2.0 rear and -2.3 to -2.6 will be good to go for the most part. If dedicated track car then around -3.0 plus or minus depending on the track. Lots of variables depending on the track and if you want to complete in time attacks or some other competitive events. Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk Rusty likes this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

07-10-2017, 06:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 68 Posts: 34,867 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684436	What tires you planning on running? What sizes, rim specs too? Everything has to mate up. Hotrodz likes this. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

07-10-2017, 06:43 PM	#11 (permalink)
Hotrodz Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684384	No problem...tracking is expensive! If you are going to run the the same set of tires and rims on the street as you do on the the track you are going to burn through a bunch of tires. If your camber is going to be in the -3.0 range you are going to get some uneven wear. Get yourself a square setup on another set of rims, you can get a set of enkie's for around $1400 new and that way you can have a dedicated set of track tires. Also, except to spend between $3k to $7k if you want do it right. Remember your drive train is a big component in optimizing your suspension. Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk Rusty likes this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

07-10-2017, 06:12 PM	#3 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,518 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684391	You will need toe bolts, camber eccentric lockouts, and Camber arms for the rear. Toe links are only used if you go to true coilovers for the rear.

07-10-2017, 06:18 PM	#4 (permalink)
2016 370z Base Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 101 Drives: 16 370z GM 6MT Rep Power: 8	Are these "true coilovers"? Sorry I am a total noob GReddy

07-10-2017, 06:45 PM	#12 (permalink)
Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 68 Posts: 34,867 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684436	Have you ever done a trackday before? Read this thread. Track Day Best Practices - MUST READ Your alignment settings are too far. Front camber should be -2.0. Rear camber -1.5 to -1.7 for you. You will get a lot of understeer with your front tire size. Not big enough. osbornsm, Hotrodz and 2016 370z like this. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html Last edited by Rusty; 07-10-2017 at 06:49 PM.

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