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2016 370z 07-10-2017 05:56 PM

What is needed to setup my suspension
 
Hi guys,

I am a total noob when it comes to the suspension game, but I want to have my car set up properly with all the right parts after I install coilovers. My goal is to run slightly lowered with an aggressive track setup that can go up to -3.0 camber in the front and up to -2.5 in the rear.

I understand that I will need upper control arms for the front for what I am looking to do but I am completely lost for what I need in the rear. From what I was told, I will be needing rear toe links, rear toe bolt and possible rear camber arms.

Is there something that is missing or unnecessary? I just don't want to be missing anything before I go get my alignment and corner balanced.

jchammond 07-10-2017 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 2016 370z (Post 3673206)
Hi guys,

I am a total noob when it comes to the suspension game, but I want to have my car set up properly with all the right parts after I install coilovers. My goal is to run slightly lowered with an aggressive track setup that can go up to -3.0 camber in the front and up to -2.5 in the rear.

I understand that I will need upper control arms for the front for what I am looking to do but I am completely lost for what I need in the rear. From what I was told, I will be needing rear toe links, rear toe bolt and possible rear camber arms.

Is there something that is missing or unnecessary? I just don't want to be missing anything before I go get my alignment and corner balanced.

PM [OptionZero] or read his thread,,,He know's how to set-up the aggressive stance!

Spooler 07-10-2017 06:12 PM

You will need toe bolts, camber eccentric lockouts, and Camber arms for the rear. Toe links are only used if you go to true coilovers for the rear.

2016 370z 07-10-2017 06:18 PM

Are these "true coilovers"? Sorry I am a total noob :(

GReddy

Rusty 07-10-2017 06:25 PM

Is this going to be a track car only? Or are you planning on running on the street too?

Hotrodz 07-10-2017 06:28 PM

Go to SPL websites and everything they have from bushings to camber arms and a arms. Check out Rusty's build thread a copy everything. Also I would not go more than -2.0 in the rear. Don't no how much track experience you have but -1.7 to -2.0 rear and -2.3 to -2.6 will be good to go for the most part. If dedicated track car then around -3.0 plus or minus depending on the track. Lots of variables depending on the track and if you want to complete in time attacks or some other competitive events.

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2016 370z 07-10-2017 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3673236)
Is this going to be a track car only? Or are you planning on running on the street too?

I want it to be track ready, but it will be running on the street as well.

2016 370z 07-10-2017 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3673237)
Go to SPL websites and everything they have from bushings to camber arms and a arms. Check out Rusty's build thread a copy everything. Also I would not go more than -2.0 in the rear. Don't no how much track experience you have but -1.7 to -2.0 rear and -2.3 to -2.6 will be good to go for the most part. If dedicated track car then around -3.0 plus or minus depending on the track. Lots of variables depending on the track and if you want to complete in time attacks or some other competitive events.

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Will do. Thank you for your input. :tiphat:

Rusty 07-10-2017 06:34 PM

What tires you planning on running? What sizes, rim specs too? Everything has to mate up.

2016 370z 07-10-2017 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3673244)
What tires you planning on running? What sizes, rim specs too? Everything has to mate up.

I have a new set of S04 Pole Positions that were just mounted two days ago. They are 245/40/19 front and 285/35/19 rear. Wheels are stock 19 inch rays from sport package.

Hotrodz 07-10-2017 06:43 PM

No problem...tracking is expensive! If you are going to run the the same set of tires and rims on the street as you do on the the track you are going to burn through a bunch of tires. If your camber is going to be in the -3.0 range you are going to get some uneven wear. Get yourself a square setup on another set of rims, you can get a set of enkie's for around $1400 new and that way you can have a dedicated set of track tires. Also, except to spend between $3k to $7k if you want do it right. Remember your drive train is a big component in optimizing your suspension.

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Rusty 07-10-2017 06:45 PM

Have you ever done a trackday before?

Read this thread.

http://www.the370z.com/track-autocro...must-read.html

Your alignment settings are too far. Front camber should be -2.0. Rear camber -1.5 to -1.7 for you.

You will get a lot of understeer with your front tire size. Not big enough.

Hotrodz 07-10-2017 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3673244)
What tires you planning on running? What sizes, rim specs too? Everything has to mate up.

What Rust said "Everything has to mate up!" I would say buy a Hotchkis front sway bar, get some better brake pads (yellow stuff), stainless steel brake lines and good brake fluid and head to the track and upgrade as you can. Also, if you have not done it get a 34 row oil cooler! Lost of stuff to run with the bulls!

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jchammond 07-10-2017 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 2016 370z (Post 3673248)
I have a new set of S04 Pole Positions that were just mounted two days ago. They are 245/40/19 front and 285/35/19 rear. Wheels are stock 19 inch rays from sport package.

Those rear's will fit on the front...you could get another pair & use w/spacer's out back or bigger wheel's all over.

Hotrodz 07-10-2017 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3673256)
Have you ever done a trackday before?

Read this thread.

http://www.the370z.com/track-autocro...must-read.html

Your alignment settings are too far. Front camber should be -2.0. Rear camber -1.5 to -1.7 for you.

You will get a lot of understeer with your front tire size. Not big enough.

Perfect recommendation old tall wise one! :p

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