Brake pads worn out on the rear

Z Spec · 07-05-2017, 04:49 PM

I just took my car to the dealership for an oil change and they told me that my rear brake is at 2mm, while my front is at 8mm. I thought this was odd since the brakes usually wear out on the front before the rear. I asked why is that the rear wore out first before the front and they said that the oem brake pads in the rear are less thick than the ones up front causing it to be worn out on the rear first.

Is this true? Or is there something wrong with my rear brakes?

My Z has only 21k miles and does not see the track.

TreeSemdyZee · 07-05-2017, 05:11 PM

Sport brakes or standard?

wanker · 07-05-2017, 05:42 PM

That's nonsense, especially at 21K miles. Something is up.

Z Spec · 07-05-2017, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee

Sport brakes or standard?

Standard

Spooler · 07-05-2017, 06:49 PM

Stability control (VDC) uses the back brakes. That is what wears them out faster.

Hotrodz · 07-05-2017, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

Stability control (VDC) uses the back brakes. That is what wears them out faster.

The cure for this...VDC always off!!!

Rusty · 07-05-2017, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

Stability control (VDC) uses the back brakes. That is what wears them out faster.

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

The cure for this...VDC always off!!!

Z Spec · 07-06-2017, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

Stability control (VDC) uses the back brakes. That is what wears them out faster.

That's crazy how VDC eat up the rear brakes so quick! Thanks for the help.

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

The cure for this...VDC always off!!!

I don't know if I can control this beast with VDC off!

Rusty · 07-06-2017, 03:24 PM

You should do a trackday with the VDC on. Have the rear start to drift out a bit. Then have a rear caliper come on. The car snaps straight.

Hotrodz · 07-06-2017, 04:41 PM

No problem 617whp and the first thing I do after I start the car is vdc off. The car is not that unruly if you don't do stupid!

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Spooler · 07-06-2017, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

You should do a trackday with the VDC on. Have the rear start to drift out a bit. Then have a rear caliper come on. The car snaps straight.

More like make you counter steer the other way quick and then the tail waging starts back and forth. I hate that waste of software.

Rusty · 07-07-2017, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

More like make you counter steer the other way quick and then the tail waging starts back and forth. I hate that waste of software.

My experience has been it straightens the car out, but pointed in the wrong direction.

Spooler · 07-07-2017, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

My experience has been it straightens the car out, but pointed in the wrong direction.

There is a video on my youtube channel. I am not sure but this may have been part of my issue. I wish I had a video camera in the car to catch it. Next year before the Dragon, yaw sensor switch.

JARblue · 07-07-2017, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

Stability control (VDC) uses the back brakes. That is what wears them out faster.

VDC is actually more about cutting throttle if it thinks you are getting too big for your britches, although it definitely applies the brakes, too. There is another sort of braking nanny at play here as well: ABLS (anti-braking limited slip). It pulses the rear brakes whenever slip is detected, and here's the kicker ...

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

The cure for this...VDC always off!!!

You can't turn off the ABLS feature unless you disable ABS altogether. The ABLS is really designed to function more as a LSD than a braking nanny. But it will definitely wear down your rear brake pads if your driving activates it often.

Hotrodz · 07-07-2017, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

VDC is actually more about cutting throttle if it thinks you are getting too big for your britches, although it definitely applies the brakes, too. There is another sort of braking nanny at play here as well: ABLS (anti-braking limited slip). It pulses the rear brakes whenever slip is detected, and here's the kicker ...

You can't turn off the ABLS feature unless you disable ABS altogether. The ABLS is really designed to function more as a LSD than a braking nanny. But it will definitely wear down your rear brake pads if your driving activates it often.

I agree and maybe I should have clarified that I run ecutek traction control and I have yet to feel it intrude in the same way as it does with the oem even when I have it turned up.

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07-05-2017, 04:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
Z Spec Base Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Arizona Posts: 80 Drives: PW 370Z Rep Power: 10	Brake pads worn out on the rear I just took my car to the dealership for an oil change and they told me that my rear brake is at 2mm, while my front is at 8mm. I thought this was odd since the brakes usually wear out on the front before the rear. I asked why is that the rear wore out first before the front and they said that the oem brake pads in the rear are less thick than the ones up front causing it to be worn out on the rear first. Is this true? Or is there something wrong with my rear brakes? My Z has only 21k miles and does not see the track.

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