softer ride

Hotrodz · 01-25-2017, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jhill

Ah this makes more sense as them being overly damped for the rate kinda like how we firm ours up for track. It rides like crap on street. So increasing the rate actually makes it as if the shock is set softer. So I guess Op has two options firm but supple ride with new springs or soft and supple with softer shocks.

Spot on!

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wanker · 01-25-2017, 11:08 AM

Have you checked your front springs for the shipping retention clip? It is possible that the shipping clips and were never removed by the dealer.

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Louie cat · 01-30-2017, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by wanker

Have you checked your front springs for the shipping retention clip? It is possible that the shipping clips and were never removed by the dealer.

See Nismo Z Suspension: All Nismo 370Z Owners Check Here FIRST!

It is a 2010 ,im sure they arent there since it gets checked while in service. Just for ***** and giggles I will look for myself.

Hotrodz · 01-25-2017, 04:41 PM

Also, it would seem to defeats the purpose of going to softer shocks when the Nismo suspension comes with other suspension upgrades to minimize body roll. Softer shocks or dampers will increase body roll and impact driving performance negatively imo.

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Jhill · 01-25-2017, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

Also, it would seem to defeats the purpose of going to softer shocks when the Nismo suspension comes with other suspension upgrades to minimize body roll. Softer shocks or dampers will increase body roll and impact driving performance negatively imo.

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Well it really only has stiffer sway bars and not by much and would still complement the sport setup. I think he could easily go to sport shocks with nismo springs since the sport shocks can be matched with swift springs which are 10k/10.5k so in theory should be compatible with the nismo 8.1/9.1?. Really just depends what the op is after, multiple options to fix the issue just that if he goes the spring route he will have to go lower which then may need camber kits etc etc. going to a lighter valved shock would get the ride comfort there yet still not be a total dog (the oem sport is fine for street and probably not pushed untill auto x or track) will retain stock height so no camber issues or added costs.

Or just be like us and get some powertrix/fortune/by etc and can do whatever you want heights and damper wise.

Louie cat · 01-30-2017, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

Also, it would seem to defeats the purpose of going to softer shocks when the Nismo suspension comes with other suspension upgrades to minimize body roll. Softer shocks or dampers will increase body roll and impact driving performance negatively imo.

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Yea, I dont want that , no sacrificing performance.

Jhill · 04-06-2017, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Louie cat

Yea, I dont want that , no sacrificing performance.

Well there is the issue. There is no such thing as having comfort without losing some performance and when it truly gets down to the nitty gritty there is no one size fits all. This is why top level race suspensions of any kind still have dials. Not every course is the same, the rougher it is the softer the suspensions needs to be (to a point). In the off road bike world with conventional monotubes it's not uncommon for pro riders to show up without about 5-6 different valved shocks because they vary so widely. On road course they change springs rates and try to have a wide enough damper range to adjust.

So really without some adjustable damper you will always compromise in one area or another.

I would say wait for a powertrix sale on the SS w swift and pick up a set. At first I found them a little stiffer than I wanted but I have either adapted or they have settled in a little bit now I find them very nice on street (just did a nor cal to so cal trip & even better than last trip with oem) and awesome on track. Car will be very firm and "tight" but not harsh.

Also they go to oem height (can even go higher in front) and that was a big concern for me, done with scraping cars oem height is low enough to already worry about some driveways.

Hotrodz · 01-25-2017, 09:06 PM

I agree, I am very performance oriented and my comfort level or tolerance is very wide. I agree the best option is coil overs if he has the money to invest in them.

kenchan · 01-25-2017, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Louie cat

I have a 2010 nismo ,and I would like to make it a little less of a punishing ride. Im looking to do this without sacrificing to much performance. I love my Z alot and I dont want to get something else to get a better ridding car.

continental DW tires or DWS06 if u run ur car in colder weather too (No snow).

SINISTER · 04-06-2017, 11:27 AM

I have a 2013 Nismo ...same situation.
Not interested in the spring route, changed mine myself on my G37 and its a pain, its also a pain when you undo them if your going to sell it, plus like mentioned they typically come with a drop which I don't want for the Z nismo.

Interested in the coilover route ....anyone care to give suggestions on some good alternatives that do not drop the car any...and yet make the car feel less like riding a horse...

Spooler · 04-06-2017, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SINISTER

I have a 2013 Nismo ...same situation.
Not interested in the spring route, changed mine myself on my G37 and its a pain, its also a pain when you undo them if your going to sell it, plus like mentioned they typically come with a drop which I don't want for the Z nismo.

Interested in the coilover route ....anyone care to give suggestions on some good alternatives that do not drop the car any...and yet make the car feel less like riding a horse...

I just upgraded to coilovers for my Nismo. The ride is way better. It is firm but not bone jarring going over bumps. Powertrix has a nice setup. I would suggest Swift 12k front spring upgrade and 11k rear Swift with his coilovers. You will enjoy the car much better. If you can afford more, then buy get them. JRZ, Moton, etc. You won't regret it. My Aragasta's are very nice. The Swift spring upgrade for them was more costly due to the rear spring size. I upgraded to SPL Midlinks to accomplish that.

I actually went with 12k front and 10k rear. It is a tad soft. I may change to 13k front and 11k rear. That is the great thing about coilovers. You can fine tune it to what you prefer.

SINISTER · 04-06-2017, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

I just upgraded to coilovers for my Nismo. The ride is way better. It is firm but not bone jarring going over bumps. Powertrix has a nice setup. I would suggest Swift 12k front spring upgrade and 11k rear Swift with his coilovers. You will enjoy the car much better. If you can afford more, then buy get them. JRZ, Moton, etc. You won't regret it. My Aragasta's are very nice. The Swift spring upgrade for them was more costly due to the rear spring size. I upgraded to SPL Midlinks to accomplish that.

I actually went with 12k front and 10k rear. It is a tad soft. I may change to 13k front and 11k rear. That is the great thing about coilovers. You can fine tune it to what you prefer.

So the KW V3's what do you think of them? They are around 2k do any of your suggestions cost less?

Jayhovah · 04-06-2017, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SINISTER

So the KW V3's what do you think of them? They are around 2k do any of your suggestions cost less?

He mentioned powertrix as well - I think there is a set in the classifieds for less than 1k as we speak =)

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Powertrix coilovers (never mounted)

Spooler · 04-06-2017, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhovah

He mentioned powertrix as well - I think there is a set in the classifieds for less than 1k as we speak =)

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Powertrix coilovers (never mounted)

I have a set of Swift springs sitting in a box for them. 12k front and 11k rear.

SINISTER · 04-06-2017, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhovah

He mentioned powertrix as well - I think there is a set in the classifieds for less than 1k as we speak =)

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Powertrix coilovers (never mounted)

Hmm...reading great things about powertrix:
Couple of questions:
1. Why the swift spring upgrades over the ones that it comes with?
2. The Nismo rates are F-8.6, R-9.3...with the streets it states on their webpage F-8 and R-6 that is quite a drop in spring rate on the rear...Stock set up is stiffer in the rear then front seems odd to change that up .... Is this the reason for the swift springs...?
3. Looking to get my ride softer but not with a loss in handling ...do you guys think these are a good match for what I am looking for?

I don't plan on tracking the car, but hell I used to go all the time and who knows. I wanted something I could do both, get a decent ride when not tracking and stiffen it up for when and if I do...

01-25-2017, 04:41 PM	#4 (permalink)
Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	Also, it would seem to defeats the purpose of going to softer shocks when the Nismo suspension comes with other suspension upgrades to minimize body roll. Softer shocks or dampers will increase body roll and impact driving performance negatively imo. Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

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Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	I agree, I am very performance oriented and my comfort level or tolerance is very wide. I agree the best option is coil overs if he has the money to invest in them. Halfkiddio likes this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

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SINISTER Track Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Earth's Toilet: Houston Posts: 552 Drives: 2013 370z NISMO Rep Power: 2155	I have a 2013 Nismo ...same situation. Not interested in the spring route, changed mine myself on my G37 and its a pain, its also a pain when you undo them if your going to sell it, plus like mentioned they typically come with a drop which I don't want for the Z nismo. Interested in the coilover route ....anyone care to give suggestions on some good alternatives that do not drop the car any...and yet make the car feel less like riding a horse... Last edited by SINISTER; 04-06-2017 at 11:33 AM.

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wanker Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: San Diego Posts: 443 Drives: 2011 370Z S/T A7 Rep Power: 2902	Have you checked your front springs for the shipping retention clip? It is possible that the shipping clips and were never removed by the dealer. See Nismo Z Suspension: All Nismo 370Z Owners Check Here FIRST!