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Here is the Email i received from Z1. On Monday, April 25, 2016 10:30 AM, Chuck Powers <chuck@z1motorsports.com> wrote: Hey Leon, Here is the follow up email with the information

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Old 04-25-2016, 12:57 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Here is the Email i received from Z1.

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On Monday, April 25, 2016 10:30 AM, Chuck Powers <chuck@z1motorsports.com> wrote:


Hey Leon,

Here is the follow up email with the information about the FUCA end we spoke about on the phone.

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Use 271 Red High Strength Loctite
Torque to 57 ft/lbs

We are sending out replacement bolts and Loctite today with instructions for install. You will not have to redo the alignment if they just reinstall the upper joint.

Please let me know if I can help with anything else.

Thank You,
Chuck Powers
Z1 Motorsports

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Here is a video that a forum member from myG37.com has put up on youtube about the problem these ball joints/heim joints are having.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1gq030fiPA
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Here is the Email i received from Z1.
Did he say anything about helping pay the cost of these repairs?

I emailed Spencer asking about this. I'm waiting for a reply.
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All I got from Chuck on the phone call was that he would look in to it.
I highly dout they will step up and help us defer the costs of repairing the obviously defective parts. But hope they do the right thing!
I have towing and shop time here, just luck I wasn't hurt or more damage to my Car.
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Here's an email I just got from Spencer @ Z1...This was in reply to my asking when the replacement parts were coming & if they plan to reimburse customers for the additional labor costs of having the repairs done.

since I've not had to be towed ((fingers crossed) I didn't ask about that.

Carey,

I believe they were having these kits completed and set to ship today, they should start moving either today or tomorrow from our local facility. Hopefully they will be to you within a couple days from that point.

The kit will include everything for your shop to do the repairs as outlined in the attached instructional TSB I just received. No change to the alignment be necessary and the install really should not take longer than a half hour or so, but yes it is my intent to follow up with you to get square.

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Going to pick up car, shop said that they have never seen this before. Untreaded its self, threads are not stripped, no parts broken. charging me 28.99 for the threadlocker alone! I hope Z1 plans on reembursing me as I havent gotten the bills for towing or labor yet.
This is NOT RIGHT!!!!
When I was having noise coming from front end they said to check the lubrication and torque setting for the bushings NEVER said anything about the heim joint.

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I was about to place an order for the FUCA glad I found this thread before i made my purchase. Maybe a recall should be placed for their FUCA if this is happening
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Just picked up my Z from the shop everything seems tight and quiet, but then it did the first time they were installed.
The thread locker Z1 calls for cost me $28.99 alone, shop had to order it special and of course one hour labor for both sides. Without counting towing its getting expensive using Z1's FUCA.
So much for them being a bargain!

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This has happen to me twice thankfully going a very low speed, I'm pissed i feel their solutions are not adequate. Im having to go back and put time and money and have my car out of commission for a few days to fix their problem.
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spence4r @ z1 sends out an email saying it will be replaced, then someone else @z1 says the email should never have been sent out. then jon says replacement parts are being sent out. what is going on? sorry to hear the people who suffered are out of labor time & money spent installing these, tow charges, reinstall, alignment etc etc.
better to go spl and cut your losses.
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This is a very unfortunate problem. I have been contemplating purchasing these FUCA's. I will be patient and follow this thread to see if their "fix" has been effective at eliminating this problem. I predict that the higher torque value with the higher grade Loctite will prevent the heim joint bolt from backing out. Hopefully Z1 will compensate you guys who have suffered from their product failure.
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So the 271 Red Loctite is specifically designed for bolts 1/2" diameter or less which the bolt size that keeps backing out is. The 262 is designed for bolts over 1/2" which makes sense as to why it could be backing out. I mean if you put the 262 stuff in your jamnuts and haven't had issues with those loosening then you know it's a Loctite issue. I didn't get around to installing mine yesterday but plan on it today. My ball joint isn't pre-assembled like some of you from factory. So I got some 271 for 8 bucks for Ace. We'll see how she goes. First autocross this Sunday.
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So the 271 Red Loctite is specifically designed for bolts 1/2" diameter or less which the bolt size that keeps backing out is. The 262 is designed for bolts over 1/2" which makes sense as to why it could be backing out. I mean if you put the 262 stuff in your jamnuts and haven't had issues with those loosening then you know it's a Loctite issue. I didn't get around to installing mine yesterday but plan on it today. My ball joint isn't pre-assembled like some of you from factory. So I got some 271 for 8 bucks for Ace. We'll see how she goes. First autocross this Sunday.
I went to the Locktite website and they say that the 262 is a High/Medium strength threadlocker and also give a breakaway torque value. With the 271, they say that it is for fasteners up to 1" diameter and that it is a permanent threadlocker. The only way to break the torque on it after it is cured, is by heating it up to 500 degrees.
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Im considering going back to OEM Upper Control Arms. My tow alone cost me $500. I am hoping that they at least give me some type of compensation for this. If not I will have to at the least report them to BBB.
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I went to the Locktite website and they say that the 262 is a High/Medium strength threadlocker and also give a breakaway torque value. With the 271, they say that it is for fasteners up to 1" diameter and that it is a permanent threadlocker. The only way to break the torque on it after it is cured, is by heating it up to 500 degrees.
I see thank you.
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