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bigaudiofanat 11-15-2009 08:02 PM

Good just wanted to check that you did that.

teejnut 11-15-2009 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 281937)
Good just wanted to check that you did that.

thanks. appreciate your help on the various threads!!! :tup:

KaienZ34 11-17-2009 07:57 PM

sorry if this is posted allready but i couldn't find it ..... with the kenwood head units (dnx6140 for me) for the camera can the video be recorded, downloaded, saved or whatever you call it. and maybe upload to a computer can there be more than one video input? multi cameras one front one rear??

bigaudiofanat 11-17-2009 07:59 PM

No that would be something different than the head units. Or even a carputer.

KaienZ34 11-17-2009 09:30 PM

Soooo just to clear it up for me no you can not save the video. what about the multi cam. input yay nay maybe on a diff. model ?? just trying to get all my ducks and what not in a row thank you for your time good sir

bigaudiofanat 11-18-2009 03:36 PM

As I said none of the head units that I have worked with nor seen on the market can be recorded. Unless you have a camcorder that is the only way I can see it happening.

KaienZ34 11-18-2009 04:45 PM

thank you for your time and know how

AK370Z 12-16-2009 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DJcuetip (Post 232285)
that looks awesome man!! i will be getting the rear came soon as well..

btw, in the video where you start up that cd... is that my demo playing?:p

YES! I need more mixed songs! Get to scratching! :icon17:

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Originally Posted by Sigur (Post 270112)
I ordered the same camera as you. Works pretty good like at night or overcast daytime, but anything in direct sunlight is like too bright or something and the screen shows up almost pure white. I'm not sure if it's a problem with the camera not adjusting or what, you have any problems in direct sunlight?

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Originally Posted by AK370Z (Post 274406)
hmm no problem here. When you say direct sunlight, do you mean just normal daylight (at noon on a sunny day)? It seems fine. I'll take a video for you tomorrow if you want.

Here's a video. It's not the best video but I shot it in bright daylight. BTW, the white glare on the left upper hand corner is glare from my white shirt. I should've wore a black shirt :rolleyes: I'll change shirt and do another video in half an hour :ugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rb3gopShZlA

As you can see, in bright daylight sun hitting the camera, it just gets a little hazy. I can still see what I need to see :tup:

Sigur 12-16-2009 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AK370Z (Post 326745)
As you can see, in bright daylight sun hitting the camera, it just gets a little hazy. I can still see what I need to see :tup:

Ahh, yea yours looks way better than mine in sunlight. If we can get some sunshine again here this weekend I'll try to take a vid, I just got a video camera. Mine the screen almost goes pure white in the sunlight. BTW I lol'd at the DJ on your radio who accidentally was talking about some computer virus spreading sperm instead of spam.

AK370Z 12-16-2009 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Sigur (Post 327330)
BTW I lol'd at the DJ on your radio who accidentally was talking about some computer virus spreading sperm instead of spam.

oh that's least of the worries on that channel. It's the Howard Stern channel. Whenever I tune to it, I expect some crazy stuff!

mototrmpt 12-29-2009 12:01 AM

AK & Matt,
I've been lurking on the forum for about a month now and thanks to the both of you, I've decided to replace my stock HU and upgrade to the Kenwood DNX6140 with a rear view camera purchased from the same guys that you used. I am having a problem with the rear view picture being upside down. I reviewed the instruction manual and I can't seem to figure out how to flip the image. Any suggestions???

Once again...thanks for doing the great job detailing your install.

Lance

bigaudiofanat 12-29-2009 08:03 AM

The camera you have is probably made to be mounted one way. You probably mounted it upside down. Just take it off and rotate it and re mount it.

mototrmpt 12-29-2009 09:30 AM

You may be correct, but here's the camera I purchased.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=120506758231

I mounted it in the same location as you did with AK's 370z. When I mount it that way the camera points downward at about a 30 degree angle. If I turn it over not only will the camera then point up at a 30 degree angle, but I will need to lower the mount so it clears the rear bumper. It's hard for me to beleive they intended this camera to only be mounted on "top" of a flat surface or that the HU can't be adjusted to flip the image.

bigaudiofanat 12-29-2009 09:54 AM

How did you mount it? Also have you went into the settings of the head unit and checked to see oif anything is reversed?

AK370Z 12-29-2009 10:06 AM

Hey mototrmpt,

You bought the camera with wrong slope! :(. Looks like he is out of the other models (the one I have).

Take a look at my camera slope direction:
http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/s...037_edited.jpg


And here's your camera:
http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/s...m/8198_1_b.jpg

Do you see the difference? At this point, I think you can show the seller picture of my camera and ask him if he can send you that if you return yours. (I can provide you more zoomed picture from different views if needed)

or maybe look into something like this? This one is adjustable! :)
Car Rear Backup Reverse View Vision Camera w/ 5M Cable - eBay (item 120509311463 end time Jan-01-10 13:50:01 PST)


http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/s...m/DSC02105.jpg
On your HU, there IS a setting where you can MIRROR image so that you can read the license places right. But that won't help you if the camera is upside down :(.


Sorry man. You're always welcome to ask us before buying. This guy offers so many different models of back up cameras, it's easy to end up with the wrong one. Let me know what you decide.

mototrmpt 12-29-2009 10:29 AM

Bigaudio,
my mount looks exactly like AK's. I tried the mirror setting on the HU, but it only reverses the left side, right side aspect.

AK,
the picture in your post is the picture of the camera I purchased. If you install it upside down it will look exactly like your install. I guess that's the key..."installing it upside down". I'm a bit puzzled though since the camera referenced by "bpd138" shows it sitting point up like mine, but he also installed his "upside down".

I've sent a message to the seller to see what can be done as well as to Kenwood to see if they have fix. I was just hoping I was overlooking an obvious quick fix.

Thanks to the both of you for your help.

postrin 12-29-2009 10:32 AM

what about taking out the four screws in the mount of the camera and rotating the camera inside the mount??

bigaudiofanat 12-29-2009 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by postrin (Post 346862)
what about taking out the four screws in the mount of the camera and rotating the camera inside the mount??

Can not do that the bracket is built into the camera.

Did the description say anything about being the right side up or anything? AK's is not installed upside down it is installed the way it was made to be installed.

mototrmpt 12-29-2009 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 346865)
Did the description say anything about being the right side up or anything? AK's is not installed upside down it is installed the way it was made to be installed.

I included my link to my ebay auction above. It doesn't mention anything about right side up and oddly enough, it didn't come with a user's manual or instructions.

If you look at the picture, you would assume you would install it on the underside some something so the camera points down. Otherwise it would point towards the sky. I also assumed I installed it the way it was meant to be installed, but apparently that's not the case.

postrin 12-29-2009 10:54 AM

I bought the same one, got it yesterday with a christmas card! Mine is definitely pointing the correct direction, I just checked it. I haven't tried, but I would think that you could take these 4 screws out and take it apart, and just flip the camera

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_74KUSFqqW3Y/Sz...6/P1010010.JPG

bigaudiofanat 12-29-2009 11:32 AM

You can not do that because the camera would be pointing UP and not the correct direction.

postrin 12-29-2009 12:14 PM

I guess I'm lost, he has the same mount as mine, when he mounts his like the one in the picture of the 370z, his picture is upside down. Wouldn't that mean the camera is upside down in the mount? taking of the four screws and twisting the camera 180 degrees inside the mount wouldn't just turn the picture over?

P

mototrmpt 12-29-2009 01:04 PM

Postrin,
I didn't notice the screws last night when I installed it, but based on your pic I assume they are there. I'll try it tonight and let you know what happens. You didn't happen to get an instruction/user manual with the camera did you?

I also got official word back from Kenwood that their HU won't flip the image and that I need to install the camera correctly. I wish I thought of that.

bigaudiofanat 12-29-2009 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by postrin (Post 346994)
I guess I'm lost, he has the same mount as mine, when he mounts his like the one in the picture of the 370z, his picture is upside down. Wouldn't that mean the camera is upside down in the mount? taking of the four screws and twisting the camera 180 degrees inside the mount wouldn't just turn the picture over?

P

Not all cameras have screws some the metal is just all one piece including the mount. That is what this camera is dose screws slow access into the camera. Now you MIGHT be able to take the inside guts of it out and rotate it. BUT be careful not to damage anything or pull any wires.

Sigur 12-29-2009 01:51 PM

Someone at the sweatshop probably put your camera together upside down. Anyone else with the sunlight issue? Sorry no vid of it still but, been out of town and the z stuck in the garage with a new roof being put on the house.

postrin 12-29-2009 02:52 PM

no, no manual with mine, but it looks pretty straight forward, red is 12 volt switched, black is ground, and the RCA for video. when I test mine, the image is mirrored.

Sigur is probably right, it probably just got mounted upside down. The seller seems reasonable, I'm sure he'll replace it if you can't get it working.

P

postrin 12-29-2009 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 347154)
That is what this camera is dose screws slow access into the camera. Now you MIGHT be able to take the inside guts of it out and rotate it. BUT be careful not to damage anything or pull any wires.

Not sure what the first part means, I agree with the second part though, if it doesn't come apart easy, don't overdue it till you talk to the seller. I can;t imagine he'd want you to send the camera back to china for replacement, he'll probably just send another, but just in case, you don't want to destroy the one you have.

P

mototrmpt 12-29-2009 10:22 PM

Ok, here's an update on the upsidedown camera...
I took out the 4 screws and was feel pretty foolish for not thinking of this myself. After pulling the 4 screws I found I couldn't get the cover to budge. I considered taking channel locks to the cover but decided against it. I then check it out and figured that I could get a correct view if I mount the camera on the vertical surface. I had to grind the some of the mounting bracket on both sides of the camera, but I eventually got it mounted. The picture looks good, but now I think the camera faces too far down and doesn't give me enough view behind me. At this point I will live with it as is until it breaks or someone steals it. It was only $31 (compared to folks trying to sell rear view cameras for $100-$200). Hopefully the seller will reply to my question and we can work something out.

Thanks for all your help and suggestions.

Lance

AK370Z 12-29-2009 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mototrmpt (Post 346861)
Bigaudio,
my mount looks exactly like AK's. I tried the mirror setting on the HU, but it only reverses the left side, right side aspect.

AK,
the picture in your post is the picture of the camera I purchased. If you install it upside down it will look exactly like your install. I guess that's the key..."installing it upside down". I'm a bit puzzled though since the camera referenced by "bpd138" shows it sitting point up like mine, but he also installed his "upside down".

I've sent a message to the seller to see what can be done as well as to Kenwood to see if they have fix. I was just hoping I was overlooking an obvious quick fix.

Thanks to the both of you for your help.

Lance do you have any picture of the camera? is the camera looks exactly like this?
http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/s...m/8198_1_b.jpg

Also, bpd used a different camera. Not like mine or yours.


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Originally Posted by postrin (Post 346885)
I bought the same one, got it yesterday with a christmas card! Mine is definitely pointing the correct direction, I just checked it. I haven't tried, but I would think that you could take these 4 screws out and take it apart, and just flip the camera

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_74KUSFqqW3Y/Sz...6/P1010010.JPG

Postrin, you have the exact same one as mine. But your (and mine) are not the same as this one. Therefore, we didn't have any problem.

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/s.../8198_1_b2.jpg

Lance, please keep us posted. thanks

arcticreaver 12-29-2009 10:40 PM

dang, nice addition to your Z AK! wish there was something like this for touring edition.

AK370Z 12-29-2009 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by arcticreaver (Post 348045)
dang, nice addition to your Z AK! wish there was something like this for touring edition.

thanks. Do you have factory navigation and looking for a camera? Let me know

arcticreaver 12-29-2009 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AK370Z (Post 348049)
thanks. Do you have factory navigation and looking for a camera? Let me know

i just have a touring edition no nav but want steering wheel controls along with nav and rear cam

mototrmpt 12-30-2009 12:05 AM

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AK,
the camera you posted in your post which highlighted the mounting brackets is the one I purchased. Here is a picture of my install:
Attachment 8320

I'll try to take a picture of the new install tomorrow.

As Sigur suggested, I think they installed the camera upside down in the housing.

Lance

TreeSemdyZee 12-30-2009 12:12 PM

I've done some searching in this thread, but didn't find a definitive answer.
Why do you need the antenna adapter? One post said that you need it because without you wouldn't get any stations. Is this true and if so, why.
I have a DNX8120 that I'm thinking of installing which I had in my 350. I just plugged the existing antenna connector into the HU and had no issues.
Does the stock 370 HU have some kind of booster built-in that the 8120 doesn't? :confused:

bigaudiofanat 12-30-2009 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee (Post 348578)
I've done some searching in this thread, but didn't find a definitive answer.
Why do you need the antenna adapter? One post said that you need it because without you wouldn't get any stations. Is this true and if so, why.
I have a DNX8120 that I'm thinking of installing which I had in my 350. I just plugged the existing antenna connector into the HU and had no issues.
Does the stock 370 HU have some kind of booster built-in that the 8120 doesn't? :confused:

The 370z has a booster antenna built into the car. With the 350z the antenna was just exposed. You need an adapter for the booster to work and get power from the new receiver. Also it changes the plug to the one that is needed for the new aftermarket head unit. Without it you will not get any radio stations.

TreeSemdyZee 12-30-2009 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 349116)
The 370z has a booster antenna built into the car. With the 350z the antenna was just exposed. You need an adapter for the booster to work and get power from the new receiver. Also it changes the plug to the one that is needed for the new aftermarket head unit. Without it you will not get any radio stations.

Thanks.
Gotta love proprietary manufacturer installations.

mototrmpt 12-30-2009 10:14 PM

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Here's a revised camera mounting that seems to work for now. It seems to point down too much so I may revise it again, but I need a break from this stuff for a bit. The good part is that unless you're looking from way down low, you won't even notice the camera is there.

Sigur 12-30-2009 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mototrmpt (Post 349486)
Here's a revised camera mounting that seems to work for now. I seems to point down too much so I may revise it again, but I need a break for a bit. The good part is that unless you're looking from way down low, you won't even notice the camera is there.

Yea i think it should be about 30 degrees off horizontal and since yours is backwards, if you mount it verticle its going to be about 60 degrees down off horizontal. You could probably angle those little mounts you fashioned back upwards a bit. These cameras are a great deal if you get one that actually works, its just too bad that the ones we got only "sort of work"

AK370Z 12-31-2009 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Sigur (Post 349576)
Yea i think it should be about 30 degrees off horizontal and since yours is backwards, if you mount it verticle its going to be about 60 degrees down off horizontal. You could probably angle those little mounts you fashioned back upwards a bit. These cameras are a great deal if you get one that actually works, its just too bad that the ones we got only "sort of work"

:iagree:

Sorry for the bad luck Lance. Mine is working flawlessly! Every 30 days, I clean the lens and apply some rainX on it. It keeps the camera clear for long period of time. Btw, mine cost about $43 shipped. How much was your lance?

mototrmpt 12-31-2009 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by AK370Z (Post 349778)
:iagree:

Sorry for the bad luck Lance. Mine is working flawlessly! Every 30 days, I clean the lens and apply some rainX on it. It keeps the camera clear for long period of time. Btw, mine cost about $43 shipped. How much was your lance?

The seller is sending me a new unit so hopefully the new one will work properly. Mine cost $31 shipped. You can't beat the price...I just wish it would have been correct the first time around!


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