Nissan 370Z Forum  

Plug and Play Bypass Kit (DVD, NAV and backup Camera) Discussion

I would have to go remote switch. I have a convertible, all of my empty spaces are taken, plus I have a switch for my headlight conversion. Another aftermarket switch

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z Tech Area > Audio & Video


Like Tree3Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-03-2010, 02:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
dixon cider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: STL
Posts: 6,034
Drives: ONE BAD AZZ VERT
Rep Power: 30
dixon cider has a reputation beyond reputedixon cider has a reputation beyond reputedixon cider has a reputation beyond reputedixon cider has a reputation beyond reputedixon cider has a reputation beyond reputedixon cider has a reputation beyond reputedixon cider has a reputation beyond reputedixon cider has a reputation beyond reputedixon cider has a reputation beyond reputedixon cider has a reputation beyond reputedixon cider has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I would have to go remote switch. I have a convertible, all of my empty spaces are taken, plus I have a switch for my headlight conversion. Another aftermarket switch will start to junk up my interior. Brian, put me down for the remote please.
__________________
*GTM* *INVIDIA* *MRWorks (RIP)* *Snow Performance* *Giken* *KW* *Hotchkis* *SRP*
"Remember, when all else fails, don't forget to tongue punch the brown starfish"-dixon
Dixon Cider's Roadster Build
dixon cider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2010, 02:57 PM   #2 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: NJ
Posts: 244
Drives: Nissan GT-R 2011
Rep Power: 15
bdl99 is a jewel in the roughbdl99 is a jewel in the roughbdl99 is a jewel in the rough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dixon cider View Post
I would have to go remote switch. I have a convertible, all of my empty spaces are taken, plus I have a switch for my headlight conversion. Another aftermarket switch will start to junk up my interior. Brian, put me down for the remote please.
Done and if you are the only one I'll make you a special limited edition one of a kind remote version
bdl99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2010, 02:58 PM   #3 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
dixon cider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: STL
Posts: 6,034
Drives: ONE BAD AZZ VERT
Rep Power: 30
dixon cider has a reputation beyond reputedixon cider has a reputation beyond reputedixon cider has a reputation beyond reputedixon cider has a reputation beyond reputedixon cider has a reputation beyond reputedixon cider has a reputation beyond reputedixon cider has a reputation beyond reputedixon cider has a reputation beyond reputedixon cider has a reputation beyond reputedixon cider has a reputation beyond reputedixon cider has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bdl99 View Post
Done and if you are the only one I'll make you a special limited edition one of a kind remote version
Awwwww, Saaawheeeeeaaaat!!!! Can it be numbered 1/1?
__________________
*GTM* *INVIDIA* *MRWorks (RIP)* *Snow Performance* *Giken* *KW* *Hotchkis* *SRP*
"Remember, when all else fails, don't forget to tongue punch the brown starfish"-dixon
Dixon Cider's Roadster Build
dixon cider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2010, 03:20 PM   #4 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Jeffblue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: NY
Age: 37
Posts: 9,192
Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe
Rep Power: 38
Jeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dixon cider View Post
Awwwww, Saaawheeeeeaaaat!!!! Can it be numbered 1/1?
well, brian already has the first one.
Jeffblue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2010, 04:28 PM   #5 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
wheee!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Mod Capital of Canada
Age: 58
Posts: 7,354
Drives: cars. lots of cars.
Rep Power: 40182
wheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Allright, I took the snow cover off of RoZy and disassembled the console to get the pinouts for the seat heater switch.

This is the stock switch





The pinouts are perfect for us here. The top right pin is full 12V input for the pilot lights above or below the Hi Lo indicators and the bottom right pin is 8V for the neon glow heated seat that comes on with the interior lighting.

The four pins on the left are exactly what you would expect two poles in each direction that engage as the switch is rocked forward or backward.

A sticker could be printed and applied above the existing heated seat info and we could then use the switch for forward VSS engaged normal driving, centre VSS Bypass, and rear Camera On.

There is even a handy 12V signal and 8V signal sitting at either of the two stock seat heater switches to draw from. If you don't have heated seats, you probably still have the harness in this location.



and this is the generic rocker switch in the STDP config (on - on)





There is a generic switch that does on-off-on as well so ignore the fact that I have just the STDP switch for now.

When you rock forward you engage the two rear poles and when you rock backward you engage the front two poles.

This is a look at how it looks in the console. I'm not sure I could live with it...



It's not fully seated cuz I didn't want to fight to get it out, but you get the idea.



I am going to have to say that the heated seat switch is the classiest way to do this and now all we need to do is find a way to print up an adhesive label that will cover the stock info with the correct info and we will have a professional switch solution.

You may send cases of fine beer to me in appreciation. If you are too cheap for fine beer, rep points are always appreciated!
__________________

H&R / Stillen / Berk / HKS / Swift / Michelin / UpRev / SPC / Amuse Rep / Seibon / Fringe XVO / TWM / more...
My Journal
wheee! is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2010, 04:41 PM   #6 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: NJ
Posts: 244
Drives: Nissan GT-R 2011
Rep Power: 15
bdl99 is a jewel in the roughbdl99 is a jewel in the roughbdl99 is a jewel in the rough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wheee! View Post
Allright, I took the snow cover off of RoZy and disassembled the console to get the pinouts for the seat heater switch.
Thanks for that, very helpful. Where is the earth for the light in the equation? Is the switch Lo/Hi switching earth and therefore common earth for the light?
bdl99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2010, 04:44 PM   #7 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
wheee!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Mod Capital of Canada
Age: 58
Posts: 7,354
Drives: cars. lots of cars.
Rep Power: 40182
wheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond reputewheee! has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I believe the earth (ground) will be the centre two poles on the left side. The 12V feeds to the Hi and Lo settings as they are selected so i believe they use the centre two pins for separate grounds so both lights don't come on at the same time.
__________________

H&R / Stillen / Berk / HKS / Swift / Michelin / UpRev / SPC / Amuse Rep / Seibon / Fringe XVO / TWM / more...
My Journal
wheee! is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2010, 04:59 PM   #8 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Long Island
Posts: 213
Drives: '12 6MT/Spt/Trng/Nav
Rep Power: 15
PW370z is on a distinguished road
Default

I would also be interested in the kit with the REMOTE.
PW370z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2010, 05:01 PM   #9 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
dixon cider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: STL
Posts: 6,034
Drives: ONE BAD AZZ VERT
Rep Power: 30
dixon cider has a reputation beyond reputedixon cider has a reputation beyond reputedixon cider has a reputation beyond reputedixon cider has a reputation beyond reputedixon cider has a reputation beyond reputedixon cider has a reputation beyond reputedixon cider has a reputation beyond reputedixon cider has a reputation beyond reputedixon cider has a reputation beyond reputedixon cider has a reputation beyond reputedixon cider has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PW370z View Post
I would also be interested in the kit with the REMOTE.
There goes my 2/2 plan.

OK, so 3/3 will work. Numbered though, and I want #2. BUT NO MORE!!
__________________
*GTM* *INVIDIA* *MRWorks (RIP)* *Snow Performance* *Giken* *KW* *Hotchkis* *SRP*
"Remember, when all else fails, don't forget to tongue punch the brown starfish"-dixon
Dixon Cider's Roadster Build
dixon cider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2010, 06:03 PM   #10 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
djpathfinder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Edmonton, Canada
Posts: 12,910
Drives: 2012 GT-R BE
Rep Power: 734
djpathfinder has a reputation beyond reputedjpathfinder has a reputation beyond reputedjpathfinder has a reputation beyond reputedjpathfinder has a reputation beyond reputedjpathfinder has a reputation beyond reputedjpathfinder has a reputation beyond reputedjpathfinder has a reputation beyond reputedjpathfinder has a reputation beyond reputedjpathfinder has a reputation beyond reputedjpathfinder has a reputation beyond reputedjpathfinder has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dixon cider View Post
There goes my 2/2 plan.

OK, so 3/3 will work. Numbered though, and I want #2. BUT NO MORE!!
What?!? Did someone say plaques?
__________________
2012 GT-R Black Edition Jet Black
2010 370Z 40th Anniversary // SOLD
djpathfinder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2010, 08:59 PM   #11 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Long Island
Posts: 213
Drives: '12 6MT/Spt/Trng/Nav
Rep Power: 15
PW370z is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dixon cider View Post
There goes my 2/2 plan.

OK, so 3/3 will work.
3/3 works for me!
PW370z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2010, 05:34 PM   #12 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: NJ
Posts: 244
Drives: Nissan GT-R 2011
Rep Power: 15
bdl99 is a jewel in the roughbdl99 is a jewel in the roughbdl99 is a jewel in the rough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wheee! View Post
I believe the earth (ground) will be the centre two poles on the left side. The 12V feeds to the Hi and Lo settings as they are selected so i believe they use the centre two pins for separate grounds so both lights don't come on at the same time.
I wasn't certain so I thought I would go take my car to pieces and the switch looks be exactly the same. Did you meter in situ?

Looking at the switch

1 2
3
4
5 6

It looks to me like 2 and 6 are the illumination circuit and if measured in situ that would explain the lower voltage

3 is +12V from relay feed for heated seats
1 goes positive in one position (1 and 3 being connected)
4 goes positive in the other position (3 and 4 being connected)
5 is ground use to illuminate the position 1 and 2 lights based on position of switch

and obviously in the central position 3 isn't connected to either 1 or 4
bdl99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2010, 09:14 AM   #13 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
ProfessorDave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Scranton, PA
Posts: 1,580
Drives: In the fairway
Rep Power: 19
ProfessorDave has much to be proud ofProfessorDave has much to be proud ofProfessorDave has much to be proud ofProfessorDave has much to be proud ofProfessorDave has much to be proud ofProfessorDave has much to be proud ofProfessorDave has much to be proud ofProfessorDave has much to be proud ofProfessorDave has much to be proud of
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bdl99 View Post
I wasn't certain so I thought I would go take my car to pieces and the switch looks be exactly the same. Did you meter in situ?

Looking at the switch

1 2
3
4
5 6

It looks to me like 2 and 6 are the illumination circuit and if measured in situ that would explain the lower voltage

3 is +12V from relay feed for heated seats
1 goes positive in one position (1 and 3 being connected)
4 goes positive in the other position (3 and 4 being connected)
5 is ground use to illuminate the position 1 and 2 lights based on position of switch

and obviously in the central position 3 isn't connected to either 1 or 4
This is a great thread guys, and it makes me wish I had Nav! I don't mean to thread jack (as I am trying to figure out the wiring of the heated seat switch for another purpose), but am wondering if anyone has confirmed the above diagram? I'm a rookie with a multimeter (although I have a helper, my daughter's boyfriend who is a car audio nut), but it seems to me (us) that:
1=positive to high position
2=illumination of high pilot light
3=power from 12v source
4=positive to low posotion
5=8v illum from "headlights on" source
6=illumination of low pilot light

Anyone able to confirm or correct this?
Thanks
__________________

Rain, snow, sleet, hail: 2009 Mazda 3 sGT HB
Everything else: 2009 370z, PW Touring 6MT
ProfessorDave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2010, 09:51 AM   #14 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: NJ
Posts: 244
Drives: Nissan GT-R 2011
Rep Power: 15
bdl99 is a jewel in the roughbdl99 is a jewel in the roughbdl99 is a jewel in the rough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ProfessorDave View Post
This is a great thread guys, and it makes me wish I had Nav! I don't mean to thread jack (as I am trying to figure out the wiring of the heated seat switch for another purpose), but am wondering if anyone has confirmed the above diagram? I'm a rookie with a multimeter (although I have a helper, my daughter's boyfriend who is a car audio nut), but it seems to me (us) that:
1=positive to high position
2=illumination of high pilot light
3=power from 12v source
4=positive to low posotion
5=8v illum from "headlights on" source
6=illumination of low pilot light

Anyone able to confirm or correct this?
Thanks
That certainly differs from the switch I was looking at, but that was in a GT-R. I have a 370z switch on order so will confirm when it arrives.

We appear to agree on 1, 3 & 4

I'm surprised there in no ground/earth in your list but will see when the switch arrives. Did you meter the plug while disconnected from the switch?
bdl99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2010, 09:57 AM   #15 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Jeffblue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: NY
Age: 37
Posts: 9,192
Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe
Rep Power: 38
Jeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond reputeJeffblue has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bdl99 View Post
That certainly differs from the switch I was looking at, but that was in a GT-R. I have a 370z switch on order so will confirm when it arrives.

We appear to agree on 1, 3 & 4

I'm surprised there in no ground/earth in your list but will see when the switch arrives. Did you meter the plug while disconnected from the switch?
this stuff is so over my head. i understand a lot of concepts in various realms, but this is definitely not one of them.
Jeffblue is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Backup Camera on 370Z sbkim Audio & Video 41 01-18-2023 07:29 PM
Backup Camera in 2010 with Nav axeman71 Audio & Video 1 04-07-2013 02:09 PM
Backup camera and Reverse light Trolling222 Audio & Video 8 05-10-2010 11:31 AM
OEM Backup camera for stock NAV! z370z Canada 2 02-05-2010 08:07 AM
Has anyone installed a backup camera w/stock nav? trema Audio & Video 10 03-03-2009 02:39 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:42 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2