Tires Plus.. What a Joke

Munts · 04-02-2016, 05:22 PM

Hey guys,

To make a long story short. I bought brand new Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires. I went to a well respected shop in the twin cities area to have the new tires put on my old wheels and balanced.

So I throw the wheels with the new tires on my car.. and I notice that my rear driver side wheel is wobbling in and out. I didn't want to drive the car far, so I took it to a Tires Plus near my house (very stupid idea). I didn't want to bring it there, but I figured that they could tell me if there was something wrong with the wheel.

I brought in my Z.. and they told me that my wheel was bent. They said that it had a real bad bend in it, and that is why it is wobbling. So I go back to the place that mounted and balanced my new tires, and they say that the wheel is completely fine and not bent (they took me back in their shop and showed me).

Still not sure why the wheel is wobbling.. it has to be something wrong with the car. My main question is.. why did Tires Plus lie though their teeth? Did they just not want to work on my car? Weird stuff....

SouthArk370Z · 04-02-2016, 05:45 PM

It's getting harder and harder to find competent service nowadays.

The two main reasons I can think of for a wobbly tire are: bent wheel and wheel improperly mounted. If your wheel is bent, you'd probably have noticed when you bent it. So my guess is that they put the wheel on wrong.

kenchan · 04-02-2016, 06:06 PM

Who put the wheels on the car? The party that did should be to blame.

Munts · 04-02-2016, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

Who put the wheels on the car? The party that did should be to blame.

It was a very reputable shop. The wheels were mounted and balanced fine. I think it is an issue with my alignment or something.. still not sure.

kenchan · 04-02-2016, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munts

It was a very reputable shop. The wheels were mounted and balanced fine. I think it is an issue with my alignment or something.. still not sure.

Ure giving the shop too much credit. If they were that great u shouldn't have such problem.

Trips · 04-02-2016, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

Ure giving the shop too much credit. If they were that great u shouldn't have such problem.

exactly.

If you drove in with no wheel wobble and left with wheel wobble?

Who's to blame is obvious.

Have you checked to see they didn't mount the rear wheel on the front?

The wider wheels should be only in the rear or loose lugs.

barncobob · 04-02-2016, 08:19 PM

installer problem, they set these apes loose with 250+ foot.lb air impacts and the guys go balls to the wall on the first one and if the others don't line up, hey, the 250+ will fix it...WRONG!
I always take my rims off at home and put in PU then install myself with manual ratchet and torque wrench

Munts · 04-02-2016, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trips

exactly.

If you drove in with no wheel wobble and left with wheel wobble?

Who's to blame is obvious.

Have you checked to see they didn't mount the rear wheel on the front?

The wider wheels should be only in the rear or loose lugs.

I didn't drive my Z to the first shop. I brought in the wheels with new tires in a truck and just had them put the new tires on.

onzedge · 04-03-2016, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

Ure giving the shop too much credit. If they were that great u shouldn't have such problem.

FairladyZ40th · 04-02-2016, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munts

It was a very reputable shop. The wheels were mounted and balanced fine. I think it is an issue with my alignment or something.. still not sure.

My guess would be that your nuts are tighten wrong or at the wrong torque...

barncobob · 04-03-2016, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by FairladyZ40th

My guess would be that your nuts are tighten wrong or at the wrong torque...

nothing worse than having tight nuts

Threadlocker · 04-02-2016, 06:55 PM

I don't think you should be worried about the shop lying to you when one of your wheels is wobbly. You basically have one shop telling you why a wheel is wobbly and another telling you there is no wobble. The shop that installed the wheel should've told you why you have a wobble. What was your agenda in returning to them? "Hey I think this other shop is lying to me, are they?" - why waste the energy in that?

vtec to vvel · 04-02-2016, 07:32 PM

either your rim is bent (which certain cases, it is not visible to the eye), or the lug nuts were loose on the wheel.

RobV · 04-04-2016, 05:38 AM

You could also have a cupped tire. This is getting annoying now a days. We have a lot of this issue on my work trucks (Chevy 1500 Z71's) even with new tires they can come a little cupped. If all that is checked you need to start looking into hubs/bearings/suspension issues I would think.

Firebase99 · 04-02-2016, 08:49 PM

Case in point. My guy, ten year mechanic. Genius on the wrenches and fluid car guy. Done free stuff for me cuz "that's a how a sports car should run" guy". Got my Pilot Sports on a few weeks ago. Fine. Getting gas ready to head to Miami, 2 hours away, keep in mind JUST got these new tires on 30 min ago. Pimping gas I'm like "these look weird" seeing from back end. Sure enough he had the 245 in back and 275 in front!! I call him saying we got an issue...he's like I had my new guy do your ****, simple. Sorry. He fixed obviously but can't be too careful.

04-02-2016, 05:22 PM	#1 (permalink)
Munts Base Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: St Paul, Minnesota Posts: 101 Drives: 2009 MT Touring Rep Power: 12	Tires Plus.. What a Joke Hey guys, To make a long story short. I bought brand new Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires. I went to a well respected shop in the twin cities area to have the new tires put on my old wheels and balanced. So I throw the wheels with the new tires on my car.. and I notice that my rear driver side wheel is wobbling in and out. I didn't want to drive the car far, so I took it to a Tires Plus near my house (very stupid idea). I didn't want to bring it there, but I figured that they could tell me if there was something wrong with the wheel. I brought in my Z.. and they told me that my wheel was bent. They said that it had a real bad bend in it, and that is why it is wobbling. So I go back to the place that mounted and balanced my new tires, and they say that the wheel is completely fine and not bent (they took me back in their shop and showed me). Still not sure why the wheel is wobbling.. it has to be something wrong with the car. My main question is.. why did Tires Plus lie though their teeth? Did they just not want to work on my car? Weird stuff.... Last edited by Munts; 04-02-2016 at 06:08 PM.

04-02-2016, 05:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
SouthArk370Z Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 8,435 Drives: 2014 Challenger Rep Power: 324198	It's getting harder and harder to find competent service nowadays. The two main reasons I can think of for a wobbly tire are: bent wheel and wheel improperly mounted. If your wheel is bent, you'd probably have noticed when you bent it. So my guess is that they put the wheel on wrong. kenchan, onzedge, FairladyZ40th and 1 others like this. __________________ Steering Lock Links - Search The370Z Bookmarklet - FSM @ NICOclub Mankind has progressed past the need for war but we haven't evolved that far. - NachoMahma

04-02-2016, 06:06 PM	#3 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	Who put the wheels on the car? The party that did should be to blame. onzedge likes this.

04-02-2016, 06:55 PM	#12 (permalink)
Threadlocker Base Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 74 Drives: 2010 Nismo #169 Rep Power: 14	I don't think you should be worried about the shop lying to you when one of your wheels is wobbly. You basically have one shop telling you why a wheel is wobbly and another telling you there is no wobble. The shop that installed the wheel should've told you why you have a wobble. What was your agenda in returning to them? "Hey I think this other shop is lying to me, are they?" - why waste the energy in that? __________________ Not the alpha male, go ask someone else.

04-02-2016, 07:32 PM	#13 (permalink)
vtec to vvel A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: In a house Posts: 4,010 Drives: Z Rep Power: 502911	either your rim is bent (which certain cases, it is not visible to the eye), or the lug nuts were loose on the wheel. __________________ Don't like what I post? Too bad. I really don't give a sh!t

04-02-2016, 08:19 PM	#7 (permalink)
barncobob A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: hangtown, CA Posts: 1,164 Drives: 16 370Z auto Rep Power: 590	installer problem, they set these apes loose with 250+ foot.lb air impacts and the guys go balls to the wall on the first one and if the others don't line up, hey, the 250+ will fix it...WRONG! I always take my rims off at home and put in PU then install myself with manual ratchet and torque wrench

04-04-2016, 05:38 AM	#14 (permalink)
RobV Base Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Pittsburgh area Posts: 64 Drives: 2014 370z TS Nav/M6 Rep Power: 10	You could also have a cupped tire. This is getting annoying now a days. We have a lot of this issue on my work trucks (Chevy 1500 Z71's) even with new tires they can come a little cupped. If all that is checked you need to start looking into hubs/bearings/suspension issues I would think.

04-02-2016, 08:49 PM	#15 (permalink)
Firebase99 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: fl Posts: 1,372 Drives: 14 3.8 Gen Coupe GT Rep Power: 14034	Case in point. My guy, ten year mechanic. Genius on the wrenches and fluid car guy. Done free stuff for me cuz "that's a how a sports car should run" guy". Got my Pilot Sports on a few weeks ago. Fine. Getting gas ready to head to Miami, 2 hours away, keep in mind JUST got these new tires on 30 min ago. Pimping gas I'm like "these look weird" seeing from back end. Sure enough he had the 245 in back and 275 in front!! I call him saying we got an issue...he's like I had my new guy do your ****, simple. Sorry. He fixed obviously but can't be too careful. __________________ '14 3.8 Genesis Coupe, '13 Volvo S60, '04 Honda Accord, '13 370Z-sold, '05 350Z Touring-sold, '92 300Z Twin Turbo-sold, '82 280ZX-gone, '79 260Z-gone

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