Tires Plus.. What a Joke

Redmann1d2n · 04-02-2016, 09:14 PM

I have never like Tires Plus either. I went in there once to get tires on my truck. They were going over things and I said I just want tires and no other BS. I was sitting there with my Dad and this older gentleman had a 2 or 3 year old Impala and they told him he needed his brake fluid changed because it was becoming corrosive. 3 year old car. No. I was a mechanic and aircraft mechanic no way brake fluid in a car thats 3 years old starts to corrode...

Once I went in to a dealer (not my Z) and said my clutch was spongy and losing fluid and I think the slave cylinder needs to be changed. The service writer said the fluid is boiling and thats why and that they would change the master cylinder....... I couldn't believe what I heard. I went in to the service manager, slapped down my Airframe and Powerplant license (FAA license to work on aircraft) and said no way in hell the clutch fluid boiled and that I work on jet engines and that was all BS. Got a free slave cylinder and labor free after that...

Jsolo · 04-02-2016, 09:45 PM

Getting tires in a few weeks.. Bringing just the wheels to the shop. Will R&R the wheels myself. This thread does give me an idea of one more thing to look at. Will inspect each wheel on the spin balancer before leaving.

* proper tire mounted to proper wheel (staggered, narrow tires go on narrow wheel)
* bead properly seated on both sides of each wheel
* Asymmetrical tire - side labeled "outside" mounted to the outside of the wheel
* tpms actually rebuilt
* Will remove weights before i bring the wheels in
* No damage to wheels
* valve core snug

ssmoked · 04-03-2016, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munts

Hey guys,

To make a long story short. I bought brand new Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires. I went to a well respected shop in the twin cities area to have the new tires put on my old wheels and balanced.

So I throw the wheels with the new tires on my car.. and I notice that my rear driver side wheel is wobbling in and out. I didn't want to drive the car far, so I took it to a Tires Plus near my house (very stupid idea). I didn't want to bring it there, but I figured that they could tell me if there was something wrong with the wheel.

I brought in my Z.. and they told me that my wheel was bent. They said that it had a real bad bend in it, and that is why it is wobbling. So I go back to the place that mounted and balanced my new tires, and they say that the wheel is completely fine and not bent (they took me back in their shop and showed me).

Still not sure why the wheel is wobbling.. it has to be something wrong with the car. My main question is.. why did Tires Plus lie though their teeth? Did they just not want to work on my car? Weird stuff....

Let me get this straight, you had your wheels mounted at a "reputable shop" and it's wobbling... And you are claiming Tires Plus is a joke. WHATTTT???

Munts · 04-03-2016, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssmoked

Let me get this straight, you had your wheels mounted at a "reputable shop" and it's wobbling... And you are claiming Tires Plus is a joke. WHATTTT???

If you actually read my post... I said that because they told me my wheel was damaged.. when in fact the wheel was fine. It isn't because of the wheel..

POS VETT · 04-03-2016, 07:01 AM

I have to agree with some of the comments in here. Let's focus at the root problem and assume the wheel could be considered straight. Did you ever find out why the wheel or the tire wobbled? Was it the whole assembly wobbling (sign of a wheel bolted incorrectly)? Or was it the tire mounted "crooked" (sign of a bead, or both, seating incorrectly)? Or both?

This shows that whether it was a "reputable" shop or a shop that's considered "BS" are the same on one aspect, they can make a mistake.

Regarding Tires Plus comment, were they given a chance to take off the wheel and tire assembly from the car for inspection or was it just a "tire-kicking" look-see at the parking lot?

SteveBad · 04-03-2016, 09:25 AM

I agree with the "back wheel on the front" explanation.

Luciano13 · 04-03-2016, 09:33 AM

Did you double check to make sure the weights didn't fall off one of the wheels?

Munts · 04-03-2016, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by POS VETT

I have to agree with some of the comments in here. Let's focus at the root problem and assume the wheel could be considered straight. Did you ever find out why the wheel or the tire wobbled? Was it the whole assembly wobbling (sign of a wheel bolted incorrectly)? Or was it the tire mounted "crooked" (sign of a bead, or both, seating incorrectly)? Or both?

This shows that whether it was a "reputable" shop or a shop that's considered "BS" are the same on one aspect, they can make a mistake.

Regarding Tires Plus comment, were they given a chance to take off the wheel and tire assembly from the car for inspection or was it just a "tire-kicking" look-see at the parking lot?

They took the wheel off.. and told me the reason for the wobble was because I must have hit a pot hole and damaged my wheel.

The tires look to be balanced properly and it is the only wheel out of the 4 that is having this issue. I still do not know the cause of the issue at this point.

Jsolo · 04-03-2016, 11:08 AM

Even if the weights fell off, the wheel would not wobble. There would be a vibration felt at speed, but the wheel should still roll straight.

To draw an informed conclusion we need answers to the question in post #16. Any wheel spacers involved?

Jsolo · 04-03-2016, 12:58 PM

^^Did you actually see this wobble or lack there of in person while the wheel was on the spin balancer?

If it was spinning straight then it has to be a mounting issue on your car.

Munts · 04-03-2016, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jsolo

^^Did you actually see this wobble or lack there of in person while the wheel was on the spin balancer?

If it was spinning straight then it has to be a mounting issue on your car.

Yeah the guy took me back in the shop and showed me the wheel on the balancer and it was spinning straight.

acelesson · 04-03-2016, 05:35 PM

Another Minnesota Z guy! Nice

Munts · 04-03-2016, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by acelesson

Another Minnesota Z guy! Nice

Lets meet for a cruise

vtec to vvel · 04-03-2016, 10:46 PM

where the hell is minnesota?

RobV · 04-04-2016, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel

where the hell is minnesota?

That would be Antarctica for you Florida boys

I am from Upper Michigan.

04-02-2016, 09:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
Jsolo Track Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: chicago Posts: 783 Drives: '12 G37 6MT Rep Power: 15	Getting tires in a few weeks.. Bringing just the wheels to the shop. Will R&R the wheels myself. This thread does give me an idea of one more thing to look at. Will inspect each wheel on the spin balancer before leaving. * proper tire mounted to proper wheel (staggered, narrow tires go on narrow wheel) * bead properly seated on both sides of each wheel * Asymmetrical tire - side labeled "outside" mounted to the outside of the wheel * tpms actually rebuilt * Will remove weights before i bring the wheels in * No damage to wheels * valve core snug __________________ G37S Sedan 6MT, Eibach swaybars, Invidia Exhaust, Weaker Clutch Pedal Spring For sale links

04-03-2016, 09:25 AM	#6 (permalink)
SteveBad Base Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Lake Martin, Alabama Posts: 138 Drives: 2013 370Z 6 speed Rep Power: 249	I agree with the "back wheel on the front" explanation. __________________ "Take the cannollis..."

04-03-2016, 09:33 AM	#7 (permalink)
Luciano13 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Canada Posts: 2,130 Drives: 2016 Solid Redz Rep Power: 246	Did you double check to make sure the weights didn't fall off one of the wheels? __________________ http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...lid-red-z.html

04-03-2016, 11:08 AM	#9 (permalink)
Jsolo Track Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: chicago Posts: 783 Drives: '12 G37 6MT Rep Power: 15	Even if the weights fell off, the wheel would not wobble. There would be a vibration felt at speed, but the wheel should still roll straight. To draw an informed conclusion we need answers to the question in post #16. Any wheel spacers involved? SouthArk370Z and Luciano13 like this. __________________ G37S Sedan 6MT, Eibach swaybars, Invidia Exhaust, Weaker Clutch Pedal Spring For sale links Last edited by Jsolo; 04-03-2016 at 12:59 PM. Reason: spelling

04-03-2016, 12:58 PM	#10 (permalink)
Jsolo Track Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: chicago Posts: 783 Drives: '12 G37 6MT Rep Power: 15	^^Did you actually see this wobble or lack there of in person while the wheel was on the spin balancer? If it was spinning straight then it has to be a mounting issue on your car. OldGuyFla likes this. __________________ G37S Sedan 6MT, Eibach swaybars, Invidia Exhaust, Weaker Clutch Pedal Spring For sale links

04-02-2016, 09:14 PM	#1 (permalink)
Redmann1d2n Base Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Minnesota Posts: 19 Drives: 2014 370z Black Auto Rep Power: 12	I have never like Tires Plus either. I went in there once to get tires on my truck. They were going over things and I said I just want tires and no other BS. I was sitting there with my Dad and this older gentleman had a 2 or 3 year old Impala and they told him he needed his brake fluid changed because it was becoming corrosive. 3 year old car. No. I was a mechanic and aircraft mechanic no way brake fluid in a car thats 3 years old starts to corrode... Once I went in to a dealer (not my Z) and said my clutch was spongy and losing fluid and I think the slave cylinder needs to be changed. The service writer said the fluid is boiling and thats why and that they would change the master cylinder....... I couldn't believe what I heard. I went in to the service manager, slapped down my Airframe and Powerplant license (FAA license to work on aircraft) and said no way in hell the clutch fluid boiled and that I work on jet engines and that was all BS. Got a free slave cylinder and labor free after that...

04-03-2016, 07:01 AM	#5 (permalink)
POS VETT Track Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Columbus OH Posts: 612 Drives: Z34\|C4LT4\|C6Z06\|V25 Rep Power: 3367	I have to agree with some of the comments in here. Let's focus at the root problem and assume the wheel could be considered straight. Did you ever find out why the wheel or the tire wobbled? Was it the whole assembly wobbling (sign of a wheel bolted incorrectly)? Or was it the tire mounted "crooked" (sign of a bead, or both, seating incorrectly)? Or both? This shows that whether it was a "reputable" shop or a shop that's considered "BS" are the same on one aspect, they can make a mistake. Regarding Tires Plus comment, were they given a chance to take off the wheel and tire assembly from the car for inspection or was it just a "tire-kicking" look-see at the parking lot?

04-03-2016, 05:35 PM	#12 (permalink)
acelesson Base Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Minnesota Posts: 103 Drives: 2011 Sport Rep Power: 11	Another Minnesota Z guy! Nice __________________ Armytrix Exhaust / Z1 Motorsports Y-Pipe / ARK Resonated Test Pipes / Takeda Intake / PW:JDM CF Engine Dress Up / iJDMTOY LED's / Tommy Kaira Heavy Baby / Fujimura CF Rear Diffuser / Forgestar F14 / BC BR Coilovers

04-03-2016, 10:46 PM	#14 (permalink)
vtec to vvel A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: In a house Posts: 4,027 Drives: Z Rep Power: 502911	where the hell is minnesota?

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