TSB for oil consumption on the VQ37VHR.

red6spd · 11-09-2010, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by de_dust

a friend who just went through a short block replacement showed me the paperwork on ntb10-090 dated july 30,2010. it is the the service bulletin for 09 to 10 370z for cars with vin built before april 5, 201 jn1az4fh(*)am303670 and jn1az4eh(*)am503778 ... it is pretty much the same as the infiniti tsb...

So if your car was built before those last 6 numbers at the end it could be an effected engine??? Cause if so I'm 503734 LOL... But knock on wood I have not had to add alot of oil to the car in between changes and the engine is nice and quiet.

WarmAndSCSI · 11-09-2010, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by cab83_750

Check again please. Don't know if I read you right, but no way could .5 qt fill from L to H.

As I sTated above, I strongly believe it takes 2 qts to raise the level from L to H. Hopefully, I am wrong but if you put 3,500 miles and you went down to almost the "L" mark, this means that you are consuming 1 qt every 1500 miles. This is 'almost' at the 'no good engine' range using the TSB chart.

You're over analyzing. I had roughly half a quart of make up oil available to me, not counting the 1/8 qt. or so that spilled out of the bottle in my trunk, and I was able to get my oil level back up to right below the "H" mark, where I had it initially, after 5000+ miles on this oil change by using what oil I had left.

Now that I think about it, I may have received an exaggerated reading when I checked the oil (and now I realize I did because the car was parked on a slope facing uphill

) but it was definitely slightly low. Let's say more like half-way between the "H" and "L" marks, and is now right below the "H" mark where it should be.

Or rather, let's just say it was 1/4-to-1/3 qt. low since that seems to add up given my oil bottle reserve.

IMO this is the amount of oil a VHR should be consuming. Less than 1/2 qt (now that I consider how much leaked out of that bottle) per 5000 miles, or less than 0.1 qt per 1000 miles.

Broken in hard, broken in fast

Bheaton1 · 11-26-2010, 08:10 AM

I am new to this site. I just purchased a new 2010 Sportster. It currently has 347 miles on it. When I pulled into my garage the other night I heard a loud ticking from underneath the hood. I have not had a chance to check the oil level yet. My VIN shows that my car was manufactured prior to the April 5th date (TSB dated 7/30). My question is does the dealership have the responsibility to inform the consumer about the TSB considering that there is a known problem with oil consumption?

cab83_750 · 11-26-2010, 11:14 AM

I don't think so as it is not a recall. It is your responsibility to check the dipstick and take actions from there.

Not all cars have the OC issue.

GL!

ZForce · 11-27-2010, 11:56 AM

^^In your owners manual it states for the owner to check their own oil levels.

Now if you are having the car regulary maintained by the dealership as in taking it to them when the mfg suggests in the owners manual to change the oil and IF the dealer takes an oil reading before the oil change and notices it low on oil then YES it's their responsibilty to inform you of low oil and they will normally check to see if there are any recalls or TSB's. If they check for a TSB, then they should inform you that the car meets the criteria for them to start the oil consumption test.

I would suggest taking a copy of the TSB with you to the dealer if you have any suspicions of excessive oil consumption. I would also suggest that you check the oil on a regular basis (every two weeks or every 500 miles) and keep a log or on post-it notes.

The car with 347 miles on the engine will consume some oil as the engine is breaking in. The ticking sound, I would be concerned with it and report it to the dealer. It's possible the car did not come out of the factory filled with Nissan's esther oil and the dealer may suggest running esther to see if the ticking sound continues. Note there are alternate oil that have the same additive package in their oils as Nissan's esther oil and at a much lowercost.

I ran Penzoil Platinum (which is synthetic) during my break in and changed the oil several times through out the first 1200 miles.There is allot of assembly lubes in a new engine that need to be cleaned out hence the cheap PP oil and several short run oil changes. There after find a good oil to run and remember a Used Oil Anaylisis is your best friend, they run between $60 and $129 for some peace of mind. Some here have been using Red Line synth oil as their everyday oil to run. I cannot vouch for Red Line with the 370Z, but they did not fare to well on the 350Z VDQE engine. Nuf said there as that statement will probably raise some controversy. The point is that you need to find the best oil with your type of driving as in daily driving, track, spirited driving and your geographical location makes a difference in the oil. Point is, you will never know until you do your own used oil analysis as all cars are not created equal and what works in Johnnies car on the other side of the USA will not have the same results with yours being the type of driving you do and your location.

I said enough, and I am just enjoying my 370Z and really do not want to venture down again on the Oil Consumption Road. I will still subscribe to this thread maybe just to offer some experience with the oil consumption we had with my brothers revup 2006 350Z. His was one of the first to have his engine swapped back in the day. Everyone here is familiar with the longest thread going on My350Z dealing NNA and the infamous oil consumption. I have posted earlier in this thread another link from My350Z on Oil by member "Resolute". Very good reading there if you want to know more on oil.

I have said it before and will again, there should be another new thread opened up by a member here (not from G37) to be able to update the first post from time to time. This threads first post is already outdated showing the TSB for the G37 when the 370Z TSB has been out since June 30, 2010.

Cheers ZForce aka ZeeForce
Curtis

antennahead · 11-27-2010, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZForce

^^In your owners manual it states for the owner to check their own oil levels.

Now if you are having the car regulary maintained by the dealership as in taking it to them when the mfg suggests in the owners manual to change the oil and IF the dealer takes an oil reading before the oil change and notices it low on oil then YES it's their responsibilty to inform you of low oil and they will normally check to see if there are any recalls or TSB's. If they check for a TSB, then they should inform you that the car meets the criteria for them to start the oil consumption test.

I would suggest taking a copy of the TSB with you to the dealer if you have any suspicions of excessive oil consumption. I would also suggest that you check the oil on a regular basis (every two weeks or every 500 miles) and keep a log or on post-it notes.

The car with 347 miles on the engine will consume some oil as the engine is breaking in. The ticking sound, I would be concerned with it and report it to the dealer. It's possible the car did not come out of the factory filled with Nissan's esther oil and the dealer may suggest running esther to see if the ticking sound continues. Note there are alternate oil that have the same additive package in their oils as Nissan's esther oil and at a much lowercost.

I ran Penzoil Platinum (which is synthetic) during my break in and changed the oil several times through out the first 1200 miles.There is allot of assembly lubes in a new engine that need to be cleaned out hence the cheap PP oil and several short run oil changes. There after find a good oil to run and remember a Used Oil Anaylisis is your best friend, they run between $60 and $129 for some peace of mind. Some here have been using Red Line synth oil as their everyday oil to run. I cannot vouch for Red Line with the 370Z, but they did not fare to well on the 350Z VDQE engine. Nuf said there as that statement will probably raise some controversy. The point is that you need to find the best oil with your type of driving as in daily driving, track, spirited driving and your geographical location makes a difference in the oil. Point is, you will never know until you do your own used oil analysis as all cars are not created equal and what works in Johnnies car on the other side of the USA will not have the same results with yours being the type of driving you do and your location.

I said enough, and I am just enjoying my 370Z and really do not want to venture down again on the Oil Consumption Road. I will still subscribe to this thread maybe just to offer some experience with the oil consumption we had with my brothers revup 2006 350Z. His was one of the first to have his engine swapped back in the day. Everyone here is familiar with the longest thread going on My350Z dealing NNA and the infamous oil consumption. I have posted earlier in this thread another link from My350Z on Oil by member "Resolute". Very good reading there if you want to know more on oil.

I have said it before and will again, there should be another new thread opened up by a member here (not from G37) to be able to update the first post from time to time. This threads first post is already outdated showing the TSB for the G37 when the 370Z TSB has been out since June 30, 2010.

Cheers ZForce aka ZeeForce
Curtis

Bheaton1 · 11-28-2010, 10:04 AM

Thanks for the responses..... I did have a chance to check my oil yesterday and it was about 3/4 the way up between the low and the high. This is the first time I checked the oil. When I started the car yesterday the ticking noise was not there. However after driving and retuning to the garage (10 mile trip) the ticking noise returned. If the widows are up I cannot hear the noise. I can only hear it with the windows down. It seams to be located on the drivers side. Could this noise possibly be normal? I have an "88" Fiero that has the same ticking noise.

BTW, my original question had nothing to do with who was responsible for checking the oil. I understand this resides with me. I feel that the dealer should share the information about the TSB or a recall (if they exist) when someone purchase a car that could fall within certain date and VIN parameters.

cab83_750 · 11-28-2010, 03:03 PM

Bheaton1,

as others have said, your car isnprobably still in 'break in' mode. However, continue checking. U said you are 3/4 up (I.e., you used half a quart of oil on <400miles). If this continues after break-in, you may want to take it in.

nextbesthing · 12-29-2010, 09:37 PM

Having my short block replaced next week :/

Ron · 01-15-2011, 04:12 PM

any TSB for the '11s?

ZeeingAround · 01-15-2011, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by nextbesthing

Having my short block replaced next week :/

How did the block replacement go?

Vbp6US · 05-26-2012, 02:50 AM

Anyone else get good results? How do you prove this to the dealership?

fuzzywuzzy · 05-26-2012, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Vbp6US

Anyone else get good results? How do you prove this to the dealership?

The thread is a year and a half old.

6MT · 05-26-2012, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzzywuzzy

The thread is a year and a half old.

So what?

PapoZalsa · 05-28-2012, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vbp6US

Anyone else get good results? How do you prove this to the dealership?

They have to place your car on a "oil consumption list". When you take your car to do the complaint be sure the engine has burned 1/4 oil or more within your last oil change.

Then if that is the case they will monitor every 1,000 miles, if the engine burn 1/4 oil three consecutives times (every 1,000 miles) then they are "supposed" to replaced the engine by the TSB.

At least that is what the TSB for the 350Zs said, I have not read for 370Z 2009 to 2012. GL

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11-26-2010, 08:10 AM	#78 (permalink)
Bheaton1 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Georgia Posts: 2 Drives: Nissan 370z Rep Power: 15	I am new to this site. I just purchased a new 2010 Sportster. It currently has 347 miles on it. When I pulled into my garage the other night I heard a loud ticking from underneath the hood. I have not had a chance to check the oil level yet. My VIN shows that my car was manufactured prior to the April 5th date (TSB dated 7/30). My question is does the dealership have the responsibility to inform the consumer about the TSB considering that there is a known problem with oil consumption?

11-26-2010, 11:14 AM	#79 (permalink)
cab83_750 Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Posts: 887 Drives: 09 NISSAN 370Z Rep Power: 418	I don't think so as it is not a recall. It is your responsibility to check the dipstick and take actions from there. Not all cars have the OC issue. GL!

11-27-2010, 11:56 AM	#80 (permalink)
ZForce A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Roseville, CA Posts: 2,359 Drives: 09 370Z Tour + Sport Rep Power: 22	^^In your owners manual it states for the owner to check their own oil levels. Now if you are having the car regulary maintained by the dealership as in taking it to them when the mfg suggests in the owners manual to change the oil and IF the dealer takes an oil reading before the oil change and notices it low on oil then *YES* it's their responsibilty to inform you of low oil and they will normally check to see if there are any recalls or TSB's. If they check for a TSB, then they should inform you that the car meets the criteria for them to start the oil consumption test. I would suggest taking a copy of the TSB with you to the dealer if you have any suspicions of excessive oil consumption. I would also suggest that you check the oil on a regular basis (every two weeks or every 500 miles) and keep a log or on post-it notes. The car with 347 miles on the engine will consume some oil as the engine is breaking in. The ticking sound, I would be concerned with it and report it to the dealer. It's possible the car did not come out of the factory filled with Nissan's esther oil and the dealer may suggest running esther to see if the ticking sound continues. Note there are alternate oil that have the same additive package in their oils as Nissan's esther oil and at a much lowercost. I ran Penzoil Platinum (which is synthetic) during my break in and changed the oil several times through out the first 1200 miles.There is allot of assembly lubes in a new engine that need to be cleaned out hence the cheap PP oil and several short run oil changes. There after find a good oil to run and remember a Used Oil Anaylisis is your best friend, they run between $60 and $129 for some peace of mind. Some here have been using Red Line synth oil as their everyday oil to run. I cannot vouch for Red Line with the 370Z, but they did not fare to well on the 350Z VDQE engine. Nuf said there as that statement will probably raise some controversy. The point is that you need to find the best oil with your type of driving as in daily driving, track, spirited driving and your geographical location makes a difference in the oil. Point is, you will never know until you do your own used oil analysis as all cars are not created equal and what works in Johnnies car on the other side of the USA will not have the same results with yours being the type of driving you do and your location. I said enough, and I am just enjoying my 370Z and really do not want to venture down again on the Oil Consumption Road. I will still subscribe to this thread maybe just to offer some experience with the oil consumption we had with my brothers revup 2006 350Z. His was one of the first to have his engine swapped back in the day. Everyone here is familiar with the longest thread going on My350Z dealing NNA and the infamous oil consumption. I have posted earlier in this thread another link from My350Z on Oil by member "Resolute". Very good reading there if you want to know more on oil. I have said it before and will again, there should be another new thread opened up by a member here (not from G37) to be able to update the first post from time to time. This threads first post is already outdated showing the TSB for the G37 when the 370Z TSB has been out since June 30, 2010. Cheers ZForce aka ZeeForce Curtis

11-28-2010, 10:04 AM	#82 (permalink)
Bheaton1 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Georgia Posts: 2 Drives: Nissan 370z Rep Power: 15	Thanks for the responses..... I did have a chance to check my oil yesterday and it was about 3/4 the way up between the low and the high. This is the first time I checked the oil. When I started the car yesterday the ticking noise was not there. However after driving and retuning to the garage (10 mile trip) the ticking noise returned. If the widows are up I cannot hear the noise. I can only hear it with the windows down. It seams to be located on the drivers side. Could this noise possibly be normal? I have an "88" Fiero that has the same ticking noise. BTW, my original question had nothing to do with who was responsible for checking the oil. I understand this resides with me. I feel that the dealer should share the information about the TSB or a recall (if they exist) when someone purchase a car that could fall within certain date and VIN parameters.

11-28-2010, 03:03 PM	#83 (permalink)
cab83_750 Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Posts: 887 Drives: 09 NISSAN 370Z Rep Power: 418	Bheaton1, as others have said, your car isnprobably still in 'break in' mode. However, continue checking. U said you are 3/4 up (I.e., you used half a quart of oil on <400miles). If this continues after break-in, you may want to take it in.

12-29-2010, 09:37 PM	#84 (permalink)
nextbesthing Base Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: central jersey Posts: 187 Drives: 2009 PW 370Z Rep Power: 16	Having my short block replaced next week :/

01-15-2011, 04:12 PM	#85 (permalink)
Ron A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 3,009 Drives: TT '11 PW Nismo #113 Rep Power: 22	any TSB for the '11s?

05-26-2012, 02:50 AM	#87 (permalink)
Vbp6US Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: SoCal Posts: 442 Drives: 2009 370z MB 6MT Rep Power: 14	Anyone else get good results? How do you prove this to the dealership?