How much performance is lost when you switch to 20" rims?

Amuse370z · 07-09-2012, 04:58 AM

I've been debating with myself against 19" TE37sls and 20" Work Gnosis GS2s.

I think the work wheels are about 10lb heavier per wheel. Aside from the weight. What other cons are there to using a bigger wheel?

Thanks in advance.

tranceformer · 07-09-2012, 05:06 AM

10lb per wheel is significant.

cost of 20" tires vs 19" tires. the 20's will ride a little rougher, not sure how noticeable the difference is though.

Kingbaby · 07-09-2012, 05:17 AM

Wheel Diameter Vs HP&TQ

birdmanx1 · 07-09-2012, 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingbaby

Wheel Diameter Vs HP&TQ

GREAT STUFF King. Repped.

kenchan · 07-09-2012, 09:36 AM

ck the gross weight (wheel and tire) and compare with your stock. if over 5lbs you will definitely feel it (some in acceleration, but more in handling and braking).

Juice14 · 07-09-2012, 10:13 AM

depends also on the total weigh of wheel+tires. if the total weight is the same as the stock wheel+tire. then you wont loose much. if its 10 punds per corner performance will be affected alot

kenchan · 07-09-2012, 10:43 AM

uhhhh... thanks parrot. lol

CrownR426 · 07-09-2012, 10:56 AM

On the Z's we should really be using 18's not 19's and definetly not 20's rofl...
It's like an olympic runner with heav yass shoes that look nice compared to some lightweight shoes that look okay.
In the end it comes down to owners preference.
But I'd sure hate losing to cars I should beat.

Amuse370z · 07-09-2012, 05:46 PM

A quick search gave me this:

370Z Stock weights:
Sport 19×9.0: 23.20 lbs (10.52 kg)
Sport 19×10.0: 23.80 lbs (10.80 kg)

TE37SL 19x9.5" +22: 20.4 lbs
TE37SL 19x10.5" +22: 20.8 lbs.

The Gnosis are about 32 lb.

So I go from saving 3lb to adding 9lb. Would my wheels be more prone to damage due to the thinner tire profile?

so damn nice.

andre12031948 · 07-09-2012, 07:03 PM

I think I covered this subject a couple of times. Since I got nothing better to do. The larger the wheels/tires, the slower the car gets(gear ratio). For those with 22" wheels, beating a 4 cyl. Altima will be a problem.....Plus the weight difference......

Liquid_G · 07-09-2012, 08:40 PM

Just add more HP and you'll be fine. The GT-R's have no problem running 20's. Neither do I.

Csquared · 07-09-2012, 08:57 PM

Gear Ratio doenst' change unless you change the rolling diameter. With larger wheels you should actually be lowering your side walls.

Weight aside, you're be paying more for your tires, your tires won't last as long. You'll curb your rims more easily and if you hit a pot hole the chance of you bending your rim is much greater cause there is a lot less rubber and air to cushion it. And as mentioned above your ride is gonna be a bit harsher.

Liquid_G · 07-09-2012, 09:01 PM

^Only thing you are wrong about though is tires.. 20" tires are way cheaper than 19's usually. You can thank all the Donks for that.

andre12031948 · 07-09-2012, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Csquared

Gear Ratio doenst' change unless you change the rolling diameter. With larger wheels you should actually be lowering your side walls.

Weight aside, you're be paying more for your tires, your tires won't last as long. You'll curb your rims more easily and if you hit a pot hole the chance of you bending your rim is much greater cause there is a lot less rubber and air to cushion it. And as mentioned above your ride is gonna be a bit harsher.

That's why I said larger wheels/tires.

You're right on, & you covered everything.

Rockcrawler · 07-10-2012, 09:03 AM

the flatspotting of the wheels would be my biggest concern with super lp tires..... it happens, then in a few years the wheels are discontinued and instead of replacing one you are buying 4. mind u, forged wheels are more impact resistant and some of us deal with nicer roads than others.

07-09-2012, 04:58 AM	#1 (permalink)
Amuse370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,170 Drives: '13 PW Fairlady Z Rep Power: 17	How much performance is lost when you switch to 20" rims? I've been debating with myself against 19" TE37sls and 20" Work Gnosis GS2s. I think the work wheels are about 10lb heavier per wheel. Aside from the weight. What other cons are there to using a bigger wheel? Thanks in advance.

07-09-2012, 05:06 AM	#2 (permalink)
tranceformer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Palm Beach, FL Posts: 1,213 Drives: 2009 370Z PW 6MT Rep Power: 268	10lb per wheel is significant. cost of 20" tires vs 19" tires. the 20's will ride a little rougher, not sure how noticeable the difference is though. __________________ Ray 2009 370Z Base Sport 6MT / 12.860 @ 109.09mph / 1.921 60ft / street tires official 1/4 mile track times

07-09-2012, 10:56 AM	#8 (permalink)
CrownR426 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Korea Posts: 4,676 Drives: Manual Rep Power: 848	On the Z's we should really be using 18's not 19's and definetly not 20's rofl... It's like an olympic runner with heav yass shoes that look nice compared to some lightweight shoes that look okay. In the end it comes down to owners preference. But I'd sure hate losing to cars I should beat. __________________ Love + Hardwork + Passion RIP SVTRacer

07-09-2012, 08:40 PM	#11 (permalink)
Liquid_G A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago Burbs Posts: 1,439 Drives: 09 370z Supercharged Rep Power: 45	Just add more HP and you'll be fine. The GT-R's have no problem running 20's. Neither do I. __________________

07-09-2012, 09:01 PM	#13 (permalink)
Liquid_G A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago Burbs Posts: 1,439 Drives: 09 370z Supercharged Rep Power: 45	^Only thing you are wrong about though is tires.. 20" tires are way cheaper than 19's usually. You can thank all the Donks for that. __________________

07-09-2012, 09:36 AM	#5 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	ck the gross weight (wheel and tire) and compare with your stock. if over 5lbs you will definitely feel it (some in acceleration, but more in handling and braking).

07-09-2012, 10:13 AM	#6 (permalink)
Juice14 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: International Posts: 132 Drives: Red 370Z Rep Power: 14	depends also on the total weigh of wheel+tires. if the total weight is the same as the stock wheel+tire. then you wont loose much. if its 10 punds per corner performance will be affected alot

07-09-2012, 10:43 AM	#7 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	uhhhh... thanks parrot. lol

07-09-2012, 05:46 PM	#9 (permalink)
Amuse370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,170 Drives: '13 PW Fairlady Z Rep Power: 17	A quick search gave me this: 370Z Stock weights: Sport 19×9.0: 23.20 lbs (10.52 kg) Sport 19×10.0: 23.80 lbs (10.80 kg) TE37SL 19x9.5" +22: 20.4 lbs TE37SL 19x10.5" +22: 20.8 lbs. The Gnosis are about 32 lb. So I go from saving 3lb to adding 9lb. Would my wheels be more prone to damage due to the thinner tire profile? so damn nice.

07-09-2012, 07:03 PM	#10 (permalink)
andre12031948 Banned Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: monticello new york 127 Posts: 1,095 Drives: 08 350z black 6m/t Rep Power: 0	I think I covered this subject a couple of times. Since I got nothing better to do. The larger the wheels/tires, the slower the car gets(gear ratio). For those with 22" wheels, beating a 4 cyl. Altima will be a problem.....Plus the weight difference......

07-09-2012, 08:57 PM	#12 (permalink)
Csquared Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 302 Drives: 09 Nissan 370z Y 7sp Rep Power: 16	Gear Ratio doenst' change unless you change the rolling diameter. With larger wheels you should actually be lowering your side walls. Weight aside, you're be paying more for your tires, your tires won't last as long. You'll curb your rims more easily and if you hit a pot hole the chance of you bending your rim is much greater cause there is a lot less rubber and air to cushion it. And as mentioned above your ride is gonna be a bit harsher.

07-10-2012, 09:03 AM	#15 (permalink)
Rockcrawler Base Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 141 Drives: 09 6MT, tr, spt, nv Rep Power: 14	the flatspotting of the wheels would be my biggest concern with super lp tires..... it happens, then in a few years the wheels are discontinued and instead of replacing one you are buying 4. mind u, forged wheels are more impact resistant and some of us deal with nicer roads than others. __________________ 2009 silver sport, 6MT touring and nav, 8700 miles when I got it, "almost" a daily driver now... bone stock aside from tint and Gemini CBE, PC'd Rays black stardust and running 275/295 DWS rubber

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