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zero 03-01-2013 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by critic (Post 2189124)
looks good, what are wheel widths and ETs front/back.

19x9.5+22 in the front and 19x10.5+12 in the rear.

KaienZ34 03-01-2013 03:51 PM

Damn, i was 1/2" off. :icon17:

cavemancan 03-05-2013 12:27 PM

I could not get a response in the "Will it fit" thread so I bit the bullet and ordered the following:

Continental Extreme Contact DW
Front: 275/35/19
Rear: 285/35/19

Diameter is within 0.1 up front and 0.3 in the rear of the stock numbers so it should be fine. I'm on the stock sport Rays. I will post pics when I get them installed. :icon14: :icon14: :icon14:

edconline 03-05-2013 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cavemancan (Post 2197472)
I could not get a response in the "Will it fit" thread so I bit the bullet and ordered the following:

Continental Extreme Contact DW
Front: 275/35/19
Rear: 285/35/19

Diameter is within 0.1 up front and 0.3 in the rear of the stock numbers so it should be fine. I'm on the stock sport Rays. I will post pics when I get them installed. :icon14: :icon14: :icon14:

Interested to see what you think of the handling with that setup.. Should rotate easier that's for sure.. Why not bigger on the rears?

cavemancan 03-05-2013 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by edconline (Post 2197489)
Interested to see what you think of the handling with that setup.. Should rotate easier that's for sure.. Why not bigger on the rears?

This car needs a square setup with more negative camber up front for handling purposes. If I was making 100 more HP then ok more meat in the back (pun intended) would be necessary. :tiphat:

edconline 03-05-2013 06:50 PM

I'm not sure I would agree it NEEDS a square setup for 'handling purposes', but I will concede that some people might prefer the way it handles with a square (or close to) setup. I'm sure Nissan engineers tried a tire size or two and played with the stagger front to rear before settling on a 30mm offset F/R. I find the balance to be pretty neutral on the track, with maybe a hint towards oversteer with 275/305 and my suspension settings the way they are.

If you want the back end to come around even more easily though, I can see why you'd want that. I think a couple of members here have tried a totally square option just to have the flexibility of rotating all the tires as well. Totally agree the larger rears aren't needed from a traction perspective with NA builds though, RE-11's or the like in stock sizes would give you more than enough grip.

I hope that setup works well, feedback when you get it all installed and on the track :tup:

cavemancan 03-06-2013 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by edconline (Post 2198073)
I'm not sure I would agree it NEEDS a square setup for 'handling purposes', but I will concede that some people might prefer the way it handles with a square (or close to) setup. I'm sure Nissan engineers tried a tire size or two and played with the stagger front to rear before settling on a 30mm offset F/R. I find the balance to be pretty neutral on the track, with maybe a hint towards oversteer with 275/305 and my suspension settings the way they are.

If you want the back end to come around even more easily though, I can see why you'd want that. I think a couple of members here have tried a totally square option just to have the flexibility of rotating all the tires as well. Totally agree the larger rears aren't needed from a traction perspective with NA builds though, RE-11's or the like in stock sizes would give you more than enough grip.

I hope that setup works well, feedback when you get it all installed and on the track :tup:

Well the use of need I guess was more personal. From my experience thus far with the car and stock suspension (with exception to Swift Springs) it has a tendency to understeer and plow through very tight turns therefore more grip was needed up front. I feel I have to fight it in order for it to bite more in a tight course like AutoCross. I also take it as a clue when some of the more popular racers on the board seem to like a more square setup.

So in an effort to see what I think works best I am increasing my contact patch up front. In stock form the car appears to have a tendency to understeer not oversteer which is why I said it needs a square setup but then again changing suspension may cure this issue as well as I feel the car needs a lot of negative camber up front. Who knows perhaps all it needs is negative camber and not the huge tire I am putting on now but I dont have camber arms yet so I am trying this first.

:tiphat:

cavemancan 03-15-2013 01:26 AM

So I am riding on the 275/35/19 front and 285/35/19 rear. I was actually afraid of how "beefy" the tire was going to look up front. Thankfully it almost looks stockish so I am very pleased. I would say 275/35 is at the size limit for the front 9 inch wide stock Rays. Any wider would prob be a waist without going with a wider wheel to make use of the extra wide rubber (pun intended).

Driving characteristics: very responsive at all speeds but perhaps too responsize at highway speeds? I can feel how affective the extra wide tire will be at an autocross but it comes with a slight down side in that it makes you work extra hard to keep the car strait above 70 mph. The slightest input or road inperfection will cause the car to quickly go in that direction which in turn requires you to have fast reflexes to control the car. I would not suggest it for the novice driver.

Another way of seeing it: imagine if your power steering assist was boosted at higher speeds. You would want it slower at those speeds not faster.

To be honest I felt this issue slightly from stock but bigger tires up front seemed to make it more apparent. Unless I am imagining this. Keep in mind my alignment shop does drift cars, race cars, etc so I trust those guys and everything is good to go in that respect. They made sure to tell me I was setup for neutral toe during my last alignment this past weekend.

I would be interested to get feed back from the track guys running a more aggressive tire up front. Have you all noticed this? What have you done to improve this? Etc.

Thorazine_IM 03-15-2013 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by zero (Post 2062801)

what are you lowered on? looks perfect right there

KaienZ34 03-15-2013 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Thorazine_IM (Post 2214568)
what are you lowered on? looks perfect right there


KW V3's looks about 2" lower than stock.

Thorazine_IM 03-15-2013 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 2214614)
KW V3's looks about 2" lower than stock.

you ever rub the fenders?

KaienZ34 03-15-2013 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Thorazine_IM (Post 2215469)
you ever rub the fenders?


Not me, that is zero's car, he is on KW V3's. I'm just guessing on how low he is, but it doesn't look like he is rubbing.

blacknismoZ 03-16-2013 03:01 PM

With 285/35/19 up front any rubbing or fitment issues?

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Originally Posted by FortuneLSX-TT (Post 1643661)
Considering that the overall diameter of the 275/40/19 was 26.5 inches and the overall diameter of the 295/35/19 is 26 inches... not as noticeable as you're claiming

The front 245/40's was 26.7 and the 255/35's are 26.1, a bit more than the rears, but still not as noticeable as you claim.

Don't forget that while he did decrease the aspect ratio he also increased the width, which makes the change to overall diameter not as dramatic.

Also, just out of curiosity what size tire do you think he should have changed to? There aren't exactly a ton of options for changing tire size to a wider tire while maintaining the exact same overall diameter. It's only going to be "close".

And to keep the thread on track... here are some shots of my "meaty" tires
285/35/19's ... up FRONT and 305/30/19's in the rear
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-e...0/IMAG0021.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-s...9/_MG_7137.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-e...9/_MG_7160.JPG


Big J 03-16-2013 04:25 PM

Does anybody know if 285/30/18 will fit on the rear base rims?

Chan Chee Hoe 03-16-2013 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Big J (Post 2217035)
Does anybody know if 285/30/18 will fit on the rear base rims?

Can fit,but very small.

chrischhorn 03-16-2013 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Big J (Post 2217035)
Does anybody know if 285/30/18 will fit on the rear base rims?


I would not squeeze a 285 on a 9" rim as the minimum recommeneded is 10" wide wheel. It'll fit but there will be a lot of sidewall and slack and the car will feel sloppy. it won't look much wider but it will look bulky from the side view.

wdkwang 03-26-2013 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by W.O.W. 370Z (Post 1640387)
More than the setups with 305s in the rear with 3-4 degrees camber!!:stirthepot:

I got less camber than that with 345s.

It's all about the offsets. I am just saying!

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6212/6...61833955d8.jpg

sh1t looks dope, and i know you got the tt power, but dont you think all that added unsprung weight is killing speed? stickier 305/315mm nitto nt05 or nt01 tires could easily outmatch the invo's and give better feel and response. it was quite a difference of weight feel, especially on roll off whenever i put on my winter wheels on that are 32lb less total in unsprung weight compared to stock. im not bashing, just saying

jpritche 03-27-2013 08:23 PM

Just picked up some Michelin PS2. 305/30/19. :yum:

axmea? 03-27-2013 11:52 PM

Yum is right. 255 35 19 and 305 30 19 Pilots ride great. Wheels picked up today too. Can't wait to install;

jpritche 03-28-2013 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by axmea? (Post 2237478)
Yum is right. 255 35 19 and 305 30 19 Pilots ride great. Wheels picked up today too. Can't wait to install;

I went with the same sizes. :woot:

sfearl1 04-08-2013 08:19 PM

These go on tomorrow..

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8254/8...a05412ff_c.jpg

Xplicit97 04-08-2013 08:38 PM

Looks great Scott, cant wait to see them on, did you sell your SP3s?

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sfearl1 04-08-2013 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Xplicit97 (Post 2257162)
Looks great Scott, cant wait to see them on, did you sell your SP3s?

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Thanks man! Yep, just shipped them off today to the new owner. :(

They're going to a good home though... a black Nismo in San Antonio TX. Can't wait to see them on his car!

Xplicit97 04-08-2013 09:52 PM

What sizes specs are the new ones? Volk RE30 I'm guessing?

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pfdaxe 04-12-2013 08:55 AM

I just received my membership card to this "exclusive" club :excited:

Fronts:19x9 +20
Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 265/35-19

Rears: 19x10.5 +25 (+10mm H&R DRS Spacer)
Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 305/30-19

Dropped on TEINS:

http://www.the370z.com/members/pfdax...ted-rotors.jpg
http://www.the370z.com/members/pfdax...ted-rotors.jpg
http://www.the370z.com/members/pfdax...-305-30-19.jpg
http://www.the370z.com/members/pfdax...-305-30-19.jpg
:happydance:

KaienZ34 04-12-2013 09:16 AM

What skirts are those, central 20?

pfdaxe 04-12-2013 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 2263436)
What skirts are those, central 20?

They are Bay Speed BSD Vented Side Skirts (IMPUL reps). I thought they flowed well with the vented fenders. Fitment was terrible and took a lot to fit along the sill, but pleased with final product.

http://www.the370z.com/members/pfdax...ide-skirts.jpg

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j...psd7fc33e4.jpg

:tiphat:

sfearl1 04-12-2013 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Xplicit97 (Post 2257319)
What sizes specs are the new ones? Volk RE30 I'm guessing?

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Yes RE30. They're 19x10 +30 and 19x11 +25. Tires are 265/35 and 305/30.

First shot of them on the car..

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8543/8...12de0f89_c.jpg

Rusty 04-15-2013 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by JC671 (Post 2267372)

Now we are talkin' meat! :tup:

sfearl1 04-21-2013 11:46 AM

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8254/8...cf205648_b.jpg

dirTy_shoeZ 04-21-2013 11:51 AM

You got new wheels bro? Sfearl1

sfearl1 04-21-2013 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dirTy_shoeZ (Post 2277361)
You got new wheels bro? Sfearl1

Yeah, I sold the SSR's :(

But I'm enjoying the new setup. Way more grip and I lost 10lbs on each corner :tup:

SATX_NISMO 04-21-2013 03:39 PM

I like your new set up Scott, that's a lot of meat back there. Although I still like your old wheels too....... :-)

Dzel 04-21-2013 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Shamu (Post 2187353)

Are those for the drag strip? What size of wheels and tire dimensions are those?

Rusty 04-21-2013 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dzel (Post 2277550)
Are those for the drag strip? What size of wheels and tire dimensions are those?

No, roadrace. A6's. Think they're 315/30-19 front and 345/30-19 rear. :eek: Shamu has a couple of different threads going on with these tires in them.

sfearl1 04-21-2013 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SATX_NISMO (Post 2277530)
I like your new set up Scott, that's a lot of meat back there. Although I still like your old wheels too....... :-)

Haha I know you do.. Be sure to post up some pics in the SSR thread!

jpritche 04-21-2013 08:04 PM

3 Attachment(s)
Attachment 67434Attachment 67435Attachment 67436

305/30/19. 19x11 Avantgarde M310. Gloss black.

Dzel 04-21-2013 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 2277554)
No, roadrace. A6's. Think they're 315/30-19 front and 345/30-19 rear. :eek: Shamu has a couple of different threads going on with these tires in them.

Really I bet they don't last to long.

Skdebarril 04-21-2013 09:49 PM

So after reading what seems like countless pages I still have unanswered questions.

1st kudos to all the GREAT setups on here!

I am looking to replace my stock rubber this week and want to "expand" a little bit. I am considering the popular 265/35 285/36 RE-11's on my stock Rays.

Will I see/feel the difference in the OD decreasing .5" in the front and increasing .4" in the rear from stock. For some reason this doesn't sit well with me (little OCD) knowing my tires aren't the same OD.

I considered going 305/30 in the rear which would put both wheels at 26.3" OD. Will this tire fit properly? I heard someone mention that it may not increase the surface area since the tire will be constricted to the stock rim.

I will probably be purchasing wheels before I get new tires so I would like these to transfer over nicely.

I am running stock suspension/camber with no spacers.

THANKS!

Juice14 04-22-2013 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cavemancan (Post 2012304)
Well, I've been driving it this way for about 4,000 + miles now. I will ammend my initial comment by saying the issue is not just lane changing. In a strait line it also has a tendency to wonder a bit. Steering wheel is rock solid and nothing is lose in suspension that I know of. I just feel I need to apply to much steering input to counter the wondering while driving at almost any speeds. Again it is not a huge deal but its noticeable.

PSI is about 35 all around. I've used the shoe polish method during autocross and tire preasure is spot on or I'm not driving hard enough...one of the two.

What do you mean by "...the nose of the car more closed"?

Thanks for the help!

Hi sorry for the late response lol. I mean the nose of the car more closed by being less twichy, the problem with that you will wear out the outside part of the tires more. Another thin I noticed is that you went from:
front stock 245 to 265
rear 275 to 285

so you increased te front width by more % wise than the rear, the car (in theory) will oversteer more. also you went from 40 profile up front to 35 and the rear stayed the same with 35 profile. Maybe that makes the car fel different to you. this means the front will be lower to the ground compared to stock, only in the front.


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