NT05 tires vs MPSS

BGTV8 · 03-23-2020, 03:12 PM

511 lb/ft of torque when exploited is going to turn the tyres.

Wheelspin overheats the tread surface and will eventually make the tyres hard.

This what you are seeing.

Options:
1. Get an adjustment for your throttle pedal (connection between brain and foot) to modify wheelspin frequency
2. Retain driving habits and try AA/200 tyres - I suspect they will wear out in less than 2 years OR they may go harder faster
3. Sell car and purchase bicycle
4. Follow someone else's suggestion

Seriously, you will need a massive wide tyre to provide grip for the torque you have. Put those wider/grippy tyres on the car and other parts of the driveline will start failing.

I have had NT05 on my car and did not like them as they went hard after a year (I cover ~20K klics per year).

Best option I can suggest is Dunlop Direzza Z3 but not sure whether they are common in the US. I've used a couple of sets on my car now.

Jinxx · 03-23-2020, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BGTV8

511 lb/ft of torque when exploited is going to turn the tyres.

Wheelspin overheats the tread surface and will eventually make the tyres hard.

This what you are seeing.

Options:
1. Get an adjustment for your throttle pedal (connection between brain and foot) to modify wheelspin frequency
2. Retain driving habits and try AA/200 tyres - I suspect they will wear out in less than 2 years OR they may go harder faster
3. Sell car and purchase bicycle
4. Follow someone else's suggestion

Seriously, you will need a massive wide tyre to provide grip for the torque you have. Put those wider/grippy tyres on the car and other parts of the driveline will start failing.

I have had NT05 on my car and did not like them as they went hard after a year (I cover ~20K klics per year).

Best option I can suggest is Dunlop Direzza Z3 but not sure whether they are common in the US. I've used a couple of sets on my car now.

Wheel spin is at 1/4 throttle ...1..2..3rd gear soooo with them in this condition ...wasn’t so at first ...just looking for other options
Was the only issue with the nt05 was mileage ? ...how did they perform ?

Rusty · 03-23-2020, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BGTV8

511 lb/ft of torque when exploited is going to turn the tyres.

Wheelspin overheats the tread surface and will eventually make the tyres hard.

This what you are seeing.

Options:
1. Get an adjustment for your throttle pedal (connection between brain and foot) to modify wheelspin frequency
2. Retain driving habits and try AA/200 tyres - I suspect they will wear out in less than 2 years OR they may go harder faster
3. Sell car and purchase bicycle
4. Follow someone else's suggestion

Seriously, you will need a massive wide tyre to provide grip for the torque you have. Put those wider/grippy tyres on the car and other parts of the driveline will start failing.

I have had NT05 on my car and did not like them as they went hard after a year (I cover ~20K klics per year).

Best option I can suggest is Dunlop Direzza Z3 but not sure whether they are common in the US. I've used a couple of sets on my car now.

What is happening is that the MPSS are being heat cycled. Everytime you spin the tires. The tires goes through a heat cycle. Enough heat cycles will cause the rubber to get hard and less grppy. This will happen to ANY tire. New MPPS. I can go about 25 minutes on the track before they start losing grip and become greasy. After about 5 trackdays. The same tires will go about 15 minutes before they get greasy. The tread wear of a 200 tire will have more grip but shorter tread wear then a 300 tire. A 300 tread wear thread will have less grip but more tread life then a tire with a 200. Most cases, a 200 tread wear will heat cycle faster then a 300 tread wear tire.

Jinxx · 03-23-2020, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty

What is happening is that the MPSS are being heat cycled. Everytime you spin the tires. The tires goes through a heat cycle. Enough heat cycles will cause the rubber to get hard and less grppy. This will happen to ANY tire. New MPPS. I can go about 25 minutes on the track before they start losing grip and become greasy. After about 5 trackdays. The same tires will go about 15 minutes before they get greasy. The tread wear of a 200 tire will have more grip but shorter tread wear then a 300 tire. A 300 tread wear thread will have less grip but more tread life then a tire with a 200. Most cases, a 200 tread wear will heat cycle faster then a 300 tread wear tire.

Figured they were getting like that due to heat ...and the reason going to a 200 tire was to at least burn through the tread by the time they got hard ...hate to toss tires away with a lot of tread that’s hard as a rock ...makes me feel like I didn’t get the use of the tire

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BGTV8 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: 03350 Australia Posts: 1,516 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z M6 Rep Power: 39975	511 lb/ft of torque when exploited is going to turn the tyres. Wheelspin overheats the tread surface and will eventually make the tyres hard. This what you are seeing. Options: 1. Get an adjustment for your throttle pedal (connection between brain and foot) to modify wheelspin frequency 2. Retain driving habits and try AA/200 tyres - I suspect they will wear out in less than 2 years OR they may go harder faster 3. Sell car and purchase bicycle 4. Follow someone else's suggestion Seriously, you will need a massive wide tyre to provide grip for the torque you have. Put those wider/grippy tyres on the car and other parts of the driveline will start failing. I have had NT05 on my car and did not like them as they went hard after a year (I cover ~20K klics per year). Best option I can suggest is Dunlop Direzza Z3 but not sure whether they are common in the US. I've used a couple of sets on my car now. JARblue, Rusty and sx moneypit like this.

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