370Z CAN Bus Proprietary PID's

DIGItonium · 06-20-2014, 09:12 AM

I'll try to find time to come up with a tablet-friendly .NET application. It's based off the data viewing tool I wrote at work. Design plan:

Tablet-friendly interface (iPad-like UI)
Module for ODB communication. It can send commands and retrieve data. That's something you guys can help me with.
Module for real-time module with recording capability. The sampling rate is user selectable. Once real-time is disabled, the module switches to playback mode. This will allow users to step and scroll through the recorded snapshot. Users will also be able to specify the buffer size by number of samples. Users will also be able to save and load this recorded file for playback.
Viewing tools: HTML display, editor, Raw PID viewer, Event Search, Event Viewer (scans for out of range values), and an 8-channel plotter. The tools can support real-time and data playback modes. However, Event Search can only scan through the recording buffer.
ODB Tools: Come up with general tools like diagnostics and commands. This might be database driven.
For expandability this .NET program will database driven. Depending on how granular we want this to be, we can separate these definitions by make and model, or even down to the model year. A single database keeps track of this list, so it knows which set of definitions to get.

[EDIT] Already started. I copied the project and started deleting non-essential stuff.

Brad370 · 06-28-2014, 04:39 PM

I did a little experimenting with DotNetBar gauge controls. It isn't pretty, but it's a proof of concept and they all update in real-time.

Brad370 · 06-29-2014, 11:32 PM

I may have hit the mother load.

I found a way to access Nissan's proprietary PIDs. They aren't found using the standard mode $01 described here and they are 2 bytes long, not just 1. They are accessed using mode $22, but the ECU needs to be placed in a special diagnostic mode (I don't think this will impact driving at all since the dealership needs to run the car while testing it too, but I still need to try it out). I describe how I figured this all out on my blog here.

All in all, I found 254 custom PIDs that are completely undocumented so it's going to take quite a bit of work to decipher them all. Please help if you can. Hopefully this will give us access to a lot more sensors and data. I'll be updating my progress on here and on my spreadsheet. They're on the "Extended PIDs" tab.

Here's what I got with the key in the ON position, but the car not started. It goes PID, # bytes, then the data bytes.

1100 4 E4 41 9A 63
1101 1 61
1102 1 00
1103 1 96
1104 1 50
1105 1 00
1106 1 69
1107 1 00
1108 1 00
1109 1 00
110A 1 00
110C 1 C8
110D 1 5C
1110 1 00
1111 1 50
1112 1 00
1113 1 00
1114 1 23
1115 1 C4
1116 1 C4
1117 1 00
1118 1 00
1119 1 00
111A 1 1C
111B 1 1C
111C 1 00
111E 1 00
111F 1 5F
1120 4 3C 4C 01 81
1121 1 00
1122 1 00
1123 1 64
1124 1 64
1125 1 64
1126 1 64
1129 1 C4
112A 1 D1
112B 1 80
112D 1 00
112E 1 00
1130 1 00
1131 1 00
1132 1 00
1133 1 00
1134 1 40
1135 1 80
1136 1 00
1137 1 00
1138 1 00
1139 1 00
113A 1 80
113B 1 00
113C 1 00
113D 1 00
1140 4 07 06 00 C1
1143 1 00
1144 1 00
1145 1 01
1146 1 00
1147 1 58
1148 1 70
1149 1 00
114A 1 00
114C 1 00
114D 1 00
114E 1 00
114F 1 00
1150 1 00
1159 1 00
115A 1 00
1160 4 00 00 01 CD
1162 1 00
1163 1 80
1164 1 00
1165 1 00
1166 1 80
1174 1 00
1178 1 00
1179 1 C2
117A 1 63
117B 1 00
117D 1 15
117E 1 15
117F 1 00
1180 4 21 E0 00 00
1182 1 FF
1183 1 00
1188 1 00
1189 1 00
118A 1 00
118B 1 00
118C 1 00
1200 4 BF AF 10 71
1201 2 00 00
1203 2 00 00
1204 2 00 42
1205 2 00 42
1206 2 04 CC
1207 2 04 CC
1208 2 AB 07
1209 2 00 BF
120B 2 00 00
120C 2 00 00
120D 2 00 92
120E 2 00 8E
120F 2 00 7B
1210 2 00 7B
1214 2 01 40
1218 2 02 72
1219 2 00 00
121A 2 00 00
121B 2 15 76
121C 2 21 F7
1220 4 EC 60 E0 01
1221 2 00 AE
1222 2 00 D3
1223 2 00 EB
1225 2 01 B9
1226 2 01 B9
122A 2 02 15
122B 2 00 00
122C 2 00 00
122D 2 00 00
122E 2 00 00
122F 2 00 00
1230 2 00 00
1231 2 56 33
1232 2 45 56
1233 2 30 41
1234 2 01 18
1235 2 00 00
1236 2 00 00
1237 2 00 EF
1238 2 00 C2
1239 2 00 E4
123A 2 00 19
123B 2 00 B1
123C 2 01 44
123D 2 00 80
123E 2 00 00
123F 2 00 3B
1240 4 03 FD 00 6D
1241 2 00 CA
1243 2 00 75
1244 2 01 B1
1245 2 01 B3
1246 2 00 00
1247 2 00 03
1248 2 B6 3A
1249 2 FF D7
124A 2 FF D3
124B 2 00 79
124C 2 00 7B
124D 2 80 00
124E 2 80 00
124F 2 80 00
1250 2 00 03
125A 2 00 83
125B 2 00 82
125C 2 02 0E
125D 2 01 71
125E 2 01 BE
125F 2 FF FF
1260 4 03 80 C0 00
1267 2 00 E0
1268 2 01 15
1269 2 00 00
126B 2 01 BB
126C 2 01 BB
126D 2 01 DD
126E 2 01 EE
126F 2 01 BB
1270 2 01 BB
1271 2 01 65
1272 2 02 0F
1273 2 00 7B
1274 2 00 97
1275 2 01 BB
1276 2 01 BB
1300 4 7B FC 04 00
1301 2 00 00
1302 2 01 3F
1303 2 C0 30
1304 2 80 90
1305 2 68 44
1306 2 00 00
1307 2 00 42
1308 2 01 08
1309 2 10 02
130A 2 10 10
130B 2 00 03
130C 2 E5 E5
130D 2 10 3F
130E 2 00 7F
130F 2 DB FF
1310 2 00 03
1311 2 00 00
1313 2 00 00
1315 2 00 00
1316 2 11 1F
1317 2 00 00
1500 4 5B DB 62 00
1502 2 00 09
1503 2 00 00
1504 2 00 FF
1505 2 00 09
1506 2 00 00
1507 2 00 FF
1508 2 00 09
1509 2 00 C0
150A 2 00 3C
150B 2 00 00
150C 2 00 C0
150D 2 00 3C
150E 2 00 00
150F 2 00 C0
1510 2 00 3C
1511 2 00 00
1512 2 00 C0
1513 2 00 0C
1514 2 00 00
1515 2 00 00
1516 2 00 00
1517 2 02 02

06-20-2014, 09:12 AM	#1 (permalink)
DIGItonium A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Kansas Posts: 3,800 Drives: 09 Z34-TT 6MT Rep Power: 44	I'll try to find time to come up with a tablet-friendly .NET application. It's based off the data viewing tool I wrote at work. Design plan: Tablet-friendly interface (iPad-like UI) Module for ODB communication. It can send commands and retrieve data. That's something you guys can help me with. Module for real-time module with recording capability. The sampling rate is user selectable. Once real-time is disabled, the module switches to playback mode. This will allow users to step and scroll through the recorded snapshot. Users will also be able to specify the buffer size by number of samples. Users will also be able to save and load this recorded file for playback. Viewing tools: HTML display, editor, Raw PID viewer, Event Search, Event Viewer (scans for out of range values), and an 8-channel plotter. The tools can support real-time and data playback modes. However, Event Search can only scan through the recording buffer. ODB Tools: Come up with general tools like diagnostics and commands. This might be database driven. For expandability this .NET program will database driven. Depending on how granular we want this to be, we can separate these definitions by make and model, or even down to the model year. A single database keeps track of this list, so it knows which set of definitions to get. [EDIT] Already started. I copied the project and started deleting non-essential stuff. SouthArk370Z likes this. __________________ Last edited by DIGItonium; 06-20-2014 at 12:36 PM.

06-28-2014, 04:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
Brad370 Base Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: online Posts: 102 Drives: car Rep Power: 16	I did a little experimenting with DotNetBar gauge controls. It isn't pretty, but it's a proof of concept and they all update in real-time. DIGItonium, Jordo!, SouthArk370Z and 4 others like this. Last edited by Brad370; 02-18-2020 at 08:40 AM.

06-29-2014, 11:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
Brad370 Base Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: online Posts: 102 Drives: car Rep Power: 16	I may have hit the mother load. I found a way to access Nissan's proprietary PIDs. They aren't found using the standard mode $01 described here and they are 2 bytes long, not just 1. They are accessed using mode $22, but the ECU needs to be placed in a special diagnostic mode (I don't think this will impact driving at all since the dealership needs to run the car while testing it too, but I still need to try it out). I describe how I figured this all out on my blog here. All in all, I found 254 custom PIDs that are completely undocumented so it's going to take quite a bit of work to decipher them all. Please help if you can. Hopefully this will give us access to a lot more sensors and data. I'll be updating my progress on here and on my spreadsheet. They're on the "Extended PIDs" tab. Here's what I got with the key in the ON position, but the car not started. It goes PID, # bytes, then the data bytes. 1100 4 E4 41 9A 63 1101 1 61 1102 1 00 1103 1 96 1104 1 50 1105 1 00 1106 1 69 1107 1 00 1108 1 00 1109 1 00 110A 1 00 110C 1 C8 110D 1 5C 1110 1 00 1111 1 50 1112 1 00 1113 1 00 1114 1 23 1115 1 C4 1116 1 C4 1117 1 00 1118 1 00 1119 1 00 111A 1 1C 111B 1 1C 111C 1 00 111E 1 00 111F 1 5F 1120 4 3C 4C 01 81 1121 1 00 1122 1 00 1123 1 64 1124 1 64 1125 1 64 1126 1 64 1129 1 C4 112A 1 D1 112B 1 80 112D 1 00 112E 1 00 1130 1 00 1131 1 00 1132 1 00 1133 1 00 1134 1 40 1135 1 80 1136 1 00 1137 1 00 1138 1 00 1139 1 00 113A 1 80 113B 1 00 113C 1 00 113D 1 00 1140 4 07 06 00 C1 1143 1 00 1144 1 00 1145 1 01 1146 1 00 1147 1 58 1148 1 70 1149 1 00 114A 1 00 114C 1 00 114D 1 00 114E 1 00 114F 1 00 1150 1 00 1159 1 00 115A 1 00 1160 4 00 00 01 CD 1162 1 00 1163 1 80 1164 1 00 1165 1 00 1166 1 80 1174 1 00 1178 1 00 1179 1 C2 117A 1 63 117B 1 00 117D 1 15 117E 1 15 117F 1 00 1180 4 21 E0 00 00 1182 1 FF 1183 1 00 1188 1 00 1189 1 00 118A 1 00 118B 1 00 118C 1 00 1200 4 BF AF 10 71 1201 2 00 00 1203 2 00 00 1204 2 00 42 1205 2 00 42 1206 2 04 CC 1207 2 04 CC 1208 2 AB 07 1209 2 00 BF 120B 2 00 00 120C 2 00 00 120D 2 00 92 120E 2 00 8E 120F 2 00 7B 1210 2 00 7B 1214 2 01 40 1218 2 02 72 1219 2 00 00 121A 2 00 00 121B 2 15 76 121C 2 21 F7 1220 4 EC 60 E0 01 1221 2 00 AE 1222 2 00 D3 1223 2 00 EB 1225 2 01 B9 1226 2 01 B9 122A 2 02 15 122B 2 00 00 122C 2 00 00 122D 2 00 00 122E 2 00 00 122F 2 00 00 1230 2 00 00 1231 2 56 33 1232 2 45 56 1233 2 30 41 1234 2 01 18 1235 2 00 00 1236 2 00 00 1237 2 00 EF 1238 2 00 C2 1239 2 00 E4 123A 2 00 19 123B 2 00 B1 123C 2 01 44 123D 2 00 80 123E 2 00 00 123F 2 00 3B 1240 4 03 FD 00 6D 1241 2 00 CA 1243 2 00 75 1244 2 01 B1 1245 2 01 B3 1246 2 00 00 1247 2 00 03 1248 2 B6 3A 1249 2 FF D7 124A 2 FF D3 124B 2 00 79 124C 2 00 7B 124D 2 80 00 124E 2 80 00 124F 2 80 00 1250 2 00 03 125A 2 00 83 125B 2 00 82 125C 2 02 0E 125D 2 01 71 125E 2 01 BE 125F 2 FF FF 1260 4 03 80 C0 00 1267 2 00 E0 1268 2 01 15 1269 2 00 00 126B 2 01 BB 126C 2 01 BB 126D 2 01 DD 126E 2 01 EE 126F 2 01 BB 1270 2 01 BB 1271 2 01 65 1272 2 02 0F 1273 2 00 7B 1274 2 00 97 1275 2 01 BB 1276 2 01 BB 1300 4 7B FC 04 00 1301 2 00 00 1302 2 01 3F 1303 2 C0 30 1304 2 80 90 1305 2 68 44 1306 2 00 00 1307 2 00 42 1308 2 01 08 1309 2 10 02 130A 2 10 10 130B 2 00 03 130C 2 E5 E5 130D 2 10 3F 130E 2 00 7F 130F 2 DB FF 1310 2 00 03 1311 2 00 00 1313 2 00 00 1315 2 00 00 1316 2 11 1F 1317 2 00 00 1500 4 5B DB 62 00 1502 2 00 09 1503 2 00 00 1504 2 00 FF 1505 2 00 09 1506 2 00 00 1507 2 00 FF 1508 2 00 09 1509 2 00 C0 150A 2 00 3C 150B 2 00 00 150C 2 00 C0 150D 2 00 3C 150E 2 00 00 150F 2 00 C0 1510 2 00 3C 1511 2 00 00 1512 2 00 C0 1513 2 00 0C 1514 2 00 00 1515 2 00 00 1516 2 00 00 1517 2 02 02 DIGItonium, Jordo!, SouthArk370Z and 3 others like this. Last edited by Brad370; 06-29-2014 at 11:35 PM.