I have been sitting here reading this today, and you keep mentioning "proof". Care to expand on what it is you would like to see?

Huh??? I'm assuming ur joking or sumthin. If you have been reading there's plenty of people that asked the same thing. I'm just repeating them basically.

I feel like people are pretty antsy about this product - personally, I'm not sure why. I think once a few more cars get tuned, as well as seeing regular updates to the software, it will become more and more a viable option for tuning. I know I'm sure interested in the FI applications as well as VVEL control. Patience is the key, and let's not get mad at a new tuning product for the Z34 platform. :D

Other than that vvel stuff, right?

I think we'd all like to see some dyno sheets and numbers. I don't really consider that proof per se, but at least it's quantifiable.

We didnt have VVEL tuning on the DE motors.

no I'm not joking at all, only asking a serious question. You asked for proof, and I am trying to figure out of what; that the software exists, that it allows adjustment of more parameters?

If your looking for dyno sheets, JV did post a before and after sheet on the first car he did.

Well pretty much what others have stated. ECUtek is claiming to be superior to UPrev. I see no dyno sheets, the original post just has words but no actual proof to back it up in THIS community. Lot of tuners I've spoken with know about it but haven't used it yet. What gains can be bad from ECUtek that can't be had from uprev.
The 1 dyno sheet is of an almost stock Z. U can't be referring to that can you??? Side by side comparisons of an uprev tune and an ECUtek tune (with a car that has mods). From good tuners also.
How is ECUtek superior to uprev when it seems its still in the "beta" phase while uprev has been out in this community for years.

No knock against ECUtek at all but I'd like to see what can be done before switching. Why aren't there more tuners out there that are familiar with this software? Most don't know or won't want to switch (yet). But if that's the case then it seems from the outside lookin in that this is a little premature.

My bad. I thought we were discussing uprev for the 370. Which still hasn't given full control of vvel. We really shouldn't be comparing ecutek to uprev until the full featured version is available. We're sitting here criticizing a beta test. In time, we'll have results. Does anyone really want to be an early adopter of something as important as engine management?

I'm more than happy to be an early adopter. All I want is VVEL control and a guarantee that if my valves crash into my pistons that I won't be the one paying for the repairs.

well first off, there is nothing "beta" about it. All EcuTek tuners are able to get the SW suite at this time. SW is very complete, however Ecutek is always updating the different platforms. We get almost daily SW updates from EcuTek on all of the platforms we work with.

Second, you need to note that it was one vendor, not EcuTek, that said the SW is better that what is currently on the market. I did not make the statement mentioned above, but in my opinion, as a Pro tuning shop, and a mechanical engineer, having used both, the Ecutek is better.

Why don't more tuners know about it? Good question, maybe your asking the wrong tuners? Most professional tuning shops in the US, and the world, know who Ecutek is, and quite a few of them use the SW. If you were to drop around to a shop that has Subaru clients, or Mazda, or Mitsubishi, or even Nissan( that has done Juke, or GTR work), I think you would find the story different. They may or may not use EcuTek, but I assure you, they know who they are.

What can EcuTek do that Uprev can't? Also a damn fine question; the short answer is expand. Expand the reach of a pro tuner into areas such as VVEL and VVT, as well as simplified ignition tuning for boosted cars. And yes, map switching is coming, along with custom tables to allow a wide range of adjustments to things like traction control, per gear rev limits, flat foot shifting, launch control, etc, etc.

Is it for everyone? Nope. There are those that will never be happy unless they can tinker with the tuning themselves, and I doubt that will happen anytime soon. But it is a good option, and for those of you who like uprev, think of it this way; maybe a new option will make them move ahead

Oh, and about your statement "From good tuners also", you might want to look Visconti up, he is one of the best tuners in the country. Yes he can be a bit of an ***( and I think of him as a friend) but that's just the way John comes off on the computer. He does know how to tune a car

Maybe beta was the wrong word, but it's the "coming soon" features I'm most excited about.

Just wanted to clarify

What can EcuTek do that "And yes, map switching is coming, along with custom tables to allow a wide range of adjustments to things like traction control, per gear rev limits, flat foot shifting, launch control, etc, etc. "

Coming along as in still not there yet and working on it correct?

Yes, again I know ECUtek is good on other platforms. Which is why I stated how is it good HERE for THIS community. I love Subbies and evos, but I don't have one.

Again, tuners know about ECUtek but so far not many use ECUtek to tune the 370/g37.

Well, maybe that's because the software was just made available?

"Coming along as in still not there yet and working on it correct?". Nope. Coming as in this is what the future holds for the sw. As of last week( Friday) they were working on a update to the GTR suite. Since the 370 SW is a piggyback( meaning the knowledge gained from the R&D, and ongoing research) of the GTR, I expect to see those features added shortly.

I will also point out something your seemed to have overlooked; if someone gets the license and a calibration now( at least from us), the updates(including any and all RaceRom future releases) is free.

According to the the site there are about 14 tuners in North America ... including some places that cater to this community alot, like GTM.

Thanks for the clarity. Didnt know the software with those features were just made available. We have been reading that it was "coming" for about a month now which was my personal complaint about it.

As far as future updates being free that's cool but if I'm not mistaken that's the norm with uprev.

Lookin forward to future updates.