Cobb vs UpRev

semtex

Yeah no kidding. I personally got a little chuckle when UpRev made the following claim:

Those statements may be true based on the products they've released for other cars, but as it pertains to the 370Z, until their stuff is released, it's vaporware. Don't get me wrong, I've heard nothing but good things about UpRev and have high expectations for their 370Z software. Heck, there's a good chance that I'll end up going with them. But coming out and claiming that your stuff is better than the other guys before you've even finished with development just seems kinda cocky to me. To be honest, it's a bit of a turnoff. Also, I believe the forum rules state that one needs to be a forum sponsor if he wants to push his products on the forum.

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nightfire

+1

t-ray

Technically, the product isn't out yet, so I don't know if he's violating rules or not.

I love the potential offered by the product, even though I'm not an owner. However, as much as I love what I have read about the product, I'm not too fond of the company.

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Another benefit of UpRev not posting as a sponsor - we can discuss things objectively without the poster getting all butthurt and threatening to have threads pulled/edited/closed by throwing around sponsorship weight.

On another forum I suggested that UpRev make Cipher open source, and still charge for the cable. Or at least open up the software to other developers with a core api. There are some awesome things the community could build if we had that low-level api already done for us. But the reaction was a typical knee-jerk "but we're in business to make money" response. That's a typical response from some one that is not in the software business. People in the software business have figured out how to still make money while giving certain things away for free decades ago.

My issue wasn't with the company's response. It was the tone and verbiage used; I was insulted. I speak to my 12 year old son with more respect than was present in the response I received from UpRev. That cost them a customer. That's the primary reason I haven't ditched the utec and gone the full Osiris+Cipher route.

wstar

It's really hard work, I work on similar stuff professionally, just not for cars. Their various statements about superiority are based on the fact that they're taking an entirely different approach to the problem than other vendors. Their approach is a lot more difficult to pull off from a technical perspective, but it does in result in a completely different level of control. It's not like other parts, like an exhaust, where nobody really knows how two things will stack up until it hits the dyno. They already know their approach is superior if more difficult to accomplish.

As far as vaporware status: they've clearly (1) already done this for previous-gen Nissan cars and released it, and (2) already done all the hard parts for this car, as it has been used privately for TT tuning of a VQ37VHR already. They're just still polishing up the loose ends before they release it to the public.

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