Cobb vs UpRev

FricFrac

Yea I know I've learned a lot and I think I'm still more confused than when I started

Anyhow from what I can tell is the dyno tune option I have is gonna be around $900 ($1200 by the time my travel expenses are taken into account). Its an UpRev dyno tune and I have the option of up to five maps selectable by cruise control. I doesn't sound like there is any hardware included (Osiris?) or the OS software (Cipher?) just the modified MAP. Its about $400 for the dyno time and around $500 for the software mod.

I agree reverse engineering the software and coding your own OS for the ECU is impressive and should be charged for - but $300 per license for an ukernal operating system seems awefully steep. Now to interface to that software you have to spend another $400 for the Osiris software? Is Osiris useless without Cipher?

Granted you get three E-Tunes but what percentage accurate is that in comparison to a dyno tune - that will give us a good idea of the value of the product in comparison to just getting you MAP done with a dyno tune....

So it sounds like a dyno tune with the UpRev system doesn't get me anything other than an optimized MAP specifically for my car - no hardware - no custom OS for $1200. That seems steep to me but I don't know what every one else is being charged - anyone - Beuler?

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NIZMOZ

You get the OBDII cable which is what costs the most. It's only $150 for the tune time. Cipher is the diagnostic logging software that you need if you ever plan to change your parameters and see what the car is doing.

Again here is the process.

1) Start Cipher, set the parameters to log, and run it. Do some 0-60-90 runs, do some Highway pulls.

2) Send them the logs.

3) They adjust the ECU parameters they did of your car on the dyno to what it needs now.

4) They email them back to you and you update your ECU. And you are done.

Cipher is $300. Osiris on top of that is $400. Dyno Tune another $150.

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semtex

I'm not following the part about the Dyno Tune. How can you say that dyno tune time is only $150? Doesn't that depend on his tuner? And it sounds to me like his tuner already told him that he charges $400 for the dyno tune. In any case, why would he purchase Cipher/Osiris and then pay for a dyno tune on top of that? I thought the whole selling point of Osiris was that you can use their eTune service in lieu of a full-blown dyno tune and save some money that way. i.e., it's one or the other, not both. (?)

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LiquidZ

That's pretty much what I was thinking.

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NIZMOZ

That is what I was quoted from UPREV for dyno time to tune the car. So I just quoted it that way.

You have to pay for the amount of time you are on the dyno. Any tuning software is like this. They can sell you the software but they won't let you use the dyno for free. You still have to tune your car on the dyno. So without that you are SOL.

If you don't want a custom tune to your car, to your mods, then yes you can do the E-Tune service. But that is not available yet even on the HR engine as they don't have enough cars and mods in their system to do this yet to know what to adjust for power gains. So expect a long wait on that.

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