Cobb vs UpRev

Uprev

Both our system and Cobbs system are license based. They use the handheld to bind the license to your ECU, we use the Cipher cable. With our system though you don't need to buy Cipher or a handheld device at an additional expense.

Osiris is $400USD retail, and can be tuned by any of our listed Pro Tuners for their fee. Cobb is $700USD retail and can be tuned only buy the resellers that have bought the licensing to do so.

Our system is not yet available for consumers on the 370Z, we're still updating interface software and doing more testing. We're already able to tune the G37 (first system to market from GT Motorsports available via their turbo kits) but we haven't released the full tuning version of the software to Pro Tuners or customers yet because we're still adding features and doing testing.

We will announce it on the forums and our website when Pro Tuners will have access to the software. We'd rather be the best software than the first commercially available software.

nightfire

How about for a FI set up? Would it be worth going piggyback/standalone, or going with a cobb/uprev?

westpak

We have done Osiris with FI on 350Z and works great, we are planning on doing it with Cobb on a 370Z in the next few weeks so we will see how it performs in comparison.

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westpak

we have used it on the 350Z numerous times including turbo Z's and it is a great application, I can't wait for it to be released for the 370Z and I think everyone will be pleased with it.

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FricFrac

It just seems like vaporware when its not even ready for the 350 HR yet....

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NIZMOZ

They already have their software out for the 350Z HR. You just take it to a tuner or send your ECU into them for now.

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FricFrac

... right but no e-tune even for the HR correct?

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355890

^^ good info...break it down into paragraphs next time, so it's easier to read.

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NIZMOZ

I know UPREV pretty well and they like to make sure there product is proven and works 100% with no issues and not releasing a product 1/2 a$$ to the public. So it's better to wait. Like in the IT field, when you plan a project for deployment, you make sure you got everything taken care of so there are no band aids needed after wards. It makes your life much easier.

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theDreamer

Plus I believe Uprev does more than just "change a few numbers" they completely break down the ECU and try to change every possible variable to improve upon what Nissan created. It is not as simple as downloading it and changing a few X variables, any one wrong part could cause the whole ECU to malfunction.

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escalade2346

hey guys i was just wondering is vvel like vtec or are they completely different

theDreamer

Wstar, that is exactly what I was thinking (and hoping). I love the idea of switching with the cruise control, but with the, currently, useless side panel it would make it worth it. Guess I need to take a trip to Austin and stop by this month.

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1slow370

Even IF it doesn't apply to uprev that is how the cobb unit works. I do believe that the Uprev program is actually still based on the original code in the ecu. They most likely are adding/altering to it in order to do what they want to do. All reflashes basically do the same things, change air, fuel tables, recalibrate MAF, change timing, remove limiters, change injector size, and turn off trouble codes.
Car ecu's acomplish incredible amounts of data handling not because they have super beefy processors but because they are simple. You can't load windows on them. I have used programs that support realtime changes while the engine is running on ecu's made back in 1980. You don't need a whole new OS to switch maps the chip in the ecu happens to be big enough to hold 5 maps and probably supports 5 different refferance signals. We used to use an adapter like a ZIF socket that could switch the refferance signal and change maps. I give uprev credit that there is some real work put into using the cruise control as the switch.

theDreamer

But Uprev does break down the entire ECU and writes there own, they do keep some of the original pieces, as those are vital. There are a lot of similarities between a computer & the ECU of a car, now they use different views on programming and assigning tasks, but when you break it down, they are not that far away from one another. Here is the most up to date news, I have been in contact with them about a few things and finally asked about an ETA date on the 370z:

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1slow370

so could uprev list the difference of how there stuff handles the fuel and ignition control, valve timing, valve lift, you know anything other than "Ooh map switching." Here's one for you how about control over the electronic throttle bodies? Tip for ya supercharger plus ETB's plus VVEL don't work. Lets talk throttles open under no load condition and the throttle controls the airflow through a roots or twin screw blower. These engines can be throttled with the valve lift maybe they are having a problem with that. I'd like something a little more informative than they are having updates and testing which can go on for ever. I don't care about the date if they would describe more. Hell I'll wait another year if it's good enough and you know I'd drive myself down there to have the software carefully explained to me because for $600, and after apparently replacing Nissan's code in the ecu, it should be able to support more control points, larger tables, at least a 2-BAR MAP sensor, ETB and VVEL control, CVTC control(I think uprev does this), Larger injectors(I think uprev does this), Bigger displacements, wideband swap, knock sensor support beyond 5,000rpm, and be able to change the display on the left gauge that's useless (oh and don't mean half @##'n it and just playing with a ten point fuel map for hours to make it work). When it can do that myself and many others will wait a year, pay double the price, buy the guys steak dinner, shut up, and be happy. So considering that they don't have the capabilities to ever pull that off I think I'm going to have to wait for the Haltech Platinum. HINT TO UPREV HERE you can still beat the customized stand-alone and piggyback companies to market if you expand your software, and it would be able to do double what the COBB can. Most people wouldn't even mind sending in the ecu to have new boards installed if it can do some of what i ask.