Be Careful with UpRev in Mass

ChrisSlicks

Uprev keeps your ROM ID. They download the stock data, make modifications and then re-upload. You can export and move ROM files around but that is not typically the way it is done. If UpRev doesn't recognize your ROM ID group then it doesn't let you work with it, that is a safety mechanism since there are subtle differences between auto's and manuals, touring and base, sport, non-sport, and all the permutations thereof etc. The ROM ID can change on the manufacturer's whim as well, or to indicate or to indicate a revised ECU between model years.

Yes, the inspection stations are online, typically via dial-up. The information collected by the scanner is sent to MA RMV, you don't get a sticker until the information is successfully transmitted and verified.

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crystalline

So if uprev doesn't change the ROM ID I don't see how this stock car with no mods and only an uprev reflash could have been sent right to the MAC?

ChrisSlicks

It would seem that the RMV computer has been updated to look at more than just the ROM ID and readiness test states. No idea what precisely, you would have to put a logging device inline between the car's OBDII and the RMV computer to see all the back and forth communication. UpRev does hide a license signature in there but I doubt they are looking for that (but who knows).

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Evil Sports

If it doesn't belong there then its an easy thing to target

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agrabau

thisishk350- it wasn't insulting it was just a poorly composed effort at showing off your analytical skills.

I took time out of my day to try to share what we know regarding this mysterious process which is taking place seemingly three-thousand miles from you.

We don't have all the answers and as Vivid has added, it's not just us and not just Nissans that are experiencing these problems here in MA.

Usually when people take the tone and attitude that you did in replying to me it indicates a personal stake in the subject. I hope this works out for everyone.

Alex

Evil Sports

Update, They tested a car with Just flashing a license on it, NO other changes were made and the car failed. This is a Stock car with no mods that would cause a failure. So it would appear their license signature changes the Rom enough for the computer to reject the car refer it to the MAC.
Dent has told me 50 times they WANT to tune using Uprev as it is a very good product but cant afford to have customers coming back to them with rejections.
It seems now that people in Mass that are getting inspections going forward will fail if they have changes in the Rom that the state is able to see.
Someone needs to find a way to get an image of the stock Rom/ecu to reflash it back.

Bummer for me until someone figures this out.

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ANMVQ

Why is it so hard to give details, So the car was flashed with the UPREV stock tune? I like the elussivness" on a stock car with no mods that would fail", So does it have mods off anykind or not, Was the car driving for the 90-100 miles for the ECU to reset, There are to many holes in this story AGAIN. But just food for thought how does a 500 WHP GTR pass and you stock car with what you say with NO mods pass?? Just curious. This whole thread is still full of usless information and should be closed.

If you wanted to help some one you would list the mods if any, or say "COMPLETLY STOCK" not" With no mods that would fail". I'm done in here

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vividracing

It looks that way. I wonder if anyone with a CARB-certified F/I kit is passing MA emissions. If so, then it's a matter of getting a tuner or UpRev to take a hard look at every single difference between the CARB certified can tunes and the other tunes.

If you reset a factory ECU (bone stock everything) and go through emissions without going through the drive cycles and setting all of the readiness alerts, will you get flagged for further inspection or just fail? Here in AZ, we don't get flagged for additional inspections. If we fail, that's it. We just have to come back later and retest.

Looks like we're on the same thought process as far as readiness alerts and whatnot. The reason the GTRs pass is because they don't use Uprev... GTRs are tuned with either Cobb or ECUTEK primarily. Also, a lot of GTR owners have the means and/or connections to circumvent emissions laws.

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