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Originally Posted by dragonbreath Haha sorry, I should have worded my question more efficiently. With Maps 1,2, and 3 what performance differences are you seeing vs stock. I know you

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Old 06-12-2012, 12:21 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Haha sorry, I should have worded my question more efficiently. With Maps 1,2, and 3 what performance differences are you seeing vs stock. I know you mentioned earlier better fuel consumption. Also have you noticed any differences in drivability?
I have not had access to a dyno or closed course yet to test preformance increase with the maps. But I can say that just smoothing the AF curves and bumping the timming up have made the car a much better for throttle response, Power delivery seems smoother as well. All measurement taken with *** dyno on real world driving.

MPG is up 1.5/.8 MPG Hwy/City with map 1.
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Sweet. Ill plug your numbers in my tune tomorrow and test it out. I found a tune that changed the throttle map on here a few months ago and that allowed more throttle at low speeds (presumably 100% throttle). I can try to post it here as well if you want.
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Sweet. Ill plug your numbers in my tune tomorrow and test it out. I found a tune that changed the throttle map on here a few months ago and that allowed more throttle at low speeds (presumably 100% throttle). I can try to post it here as well if you want.

Yes Please. I can't beleave there is not more of this at this site. We need to contact an administrator to allow the ROM's to me posted.
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Yes Please. I can't beleave there is not more of this at this site. We need to contact an administrator to allow the ROM's to me posted.

Ok I'll see if I can't get it posted later tonight or early tomorrow.
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Sorry it took a little while. Here is my throttle map. Credit however is given to wstar and I found this information in this thread:
Smooth Throttle for UpRev




You can copy this straight from here and paste it into a throttle table in UpRev:

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8064 8101 81A0 82CC 83F1 8507 8718 88FC 8AB5 8C41 8D4F 8DA3 8DF3 8E44 8E8F 8ED8 
803E 80DE 8181 82B3 83DE 84F9 8712 88FC 8AB8 8C46 8D53 8DA6 8DF6 8E46 8E90 8ED8 
8018 80BC 8162 829A 83CB 84EB 870C 88FC 8ABC 8C4B 8D57 8DAA 8DF9 8E48 8E92 8ED8 
7FF2 8099 8142 8281 83B8 84DD 8706 88FC 8ABF 8C50 8D5B 8DAD 8DFC 8E4A 8E93 8ED8 
7FCB 8076 8122 8267 83A4 84CE 8700 88FC 8AC3 8C55 8D60 8DB1 8DFF 8E4C 8E94 8ED8 
7FA5 8053 8103 824E 8391 84C0 86FA 88FC 8AC7 8C59 8D64 8DB5 8E02 8E4E 8E95 8ED8 
7F7F 8031 80E4 8235 837D 84B2 86F4 88FC 8ACA 8C5E 8D68 8DB8 8E05 8E50 8E96 8ED8 
7F59 800E 80C5 821C 836A 84A3 86EE 88FC 8ACE 8C63 8D6C 8DBC 8E08 8E53 8E97 8ED8 
7F33 7FEC 80A6 8203 8357 8495 86E8 88FC 8AD1 8C68 8D70 8DBF 8E0B 8E55 8E98 8ED8 
7F0D 7FC9 8087 81EB 8344 8487 86E2 88FC 8AD5 8C6C 8D74 8DC3 8E0E 8E57 8E99 8ED8 
7EE6 7FA6 8067 81D1 8330 8478 86DC 88FC 8AD8 8C71 8D78 8DC6 8E11 8E59 8E9A 8ED8 
7EC0 7F83 8048 81B8 831D 846A 86D6 88FC 8ADC 8C76 8D7C 8DCA 8E13 8E5B 8E9C 8ED8 
7E9A 7F60 8029 819F 8309 845C 86D0 88FC 8AE0 8C7B 8D80 8DCE 8E16 8E5D 8E9D 8ED8 
7E64 7F2F 7FFC 817C 82EE 8448 86C8 88FC 8AE5 8C82 8D86 8DD3 8E1B 8E60 8E9E 8ED8 
7D47 7E2C 7F13 80C1 825D 83DD 869B 88FC 8AFF 8CA5 8DA5 8DED 8E30 8E6F 8EA7 8ED8
From the butt dyno it seems that the car has a whole lot more umph at lower speeds. There isnt a real jarring jump when you fully press the throttle as it comes on very smoothly. IMO its much better that the stock throttle settings.
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Thanks, FYI, fuel table 3 is showing 27MPG HWY, at 65-70 MPH with the cruse control locked. 2 way 100 mile course. Air temp is 78-97, and the RE-11's are much higher than stock due to larger size and compounds. Seems to take VVEL a few (50 miles) to learn.
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With map 3 how does the car feel? Throttle response and power delivery. I havent had the chance to change it up yet for my self. Hopefully Ill get around to it tomorrow morning lol.
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With map 3 how does the car feel? Throttle response and power delivery. I havent had the chance to change it up yet for my self. Hopefully Ill get around to it tomorrow morning lol.
The map is smooth. My cruse control did drop off line tonight. I did not notice any change in power at the top end of the af MAP. Tuning for max power is just some controled runs on a dyno/closed course. The DD part of the MAP will require many days and miles of testing.

I beleave all the dyno tunes are just max tunes and then smooth the transitions from the lean to the new max power AF's. Thats all you have time for unless you rent a dyno for a day.

I will have months of data and thousands of miles in my finished tune.

***Also added 2 more units of timing (4 total) accross the timing table along with fuel map 3 and the improved throttle map. All seems well 28 to 29 MPG cruse at 65-70 and still rocks when I get on it.***

Returt trip was 27 MPG, air temp was 20 degrees cooler.
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You guys got me wondering about the ETC off function. I may do it while I am @ Zerolift. I think that will be either epic or epic fail for me. I think I can live without VDC, SRM, and Cruise (except I will be complaining on the drive to Baltimore and back).
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You guys got me wondering about the ETC off function. I may do it while I am @ Zerolift. I think that will be either epic or epic fail for me. I think I can live without VDC, SRM, and Cruise (except I will be complaining on the drive to Baltimore and back).
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You guys got me wondering about the ETC off function. I may do it while I am @ Zerolift. I think that will be either epic or epic fail for me. I think I can live without VDC, SRM, and Cruise (except I will be complaining on the drive to Baltimore and back).

All I have seen ETC off is bad. But you can try it.
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I tried it and didn't notice much of a difference. I may just be crazy lol.
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The map above from wstar is that his latest one. I'm making some changes in about a hour and was going to see what my maps looked like compared to his.
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What idle rpm are you guys set at?
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So everything went smooth Saturday, the car is a dfferent animal again? I actual started a thread on myg37 about the ECU's relean with a tune. We reflashed the car and made some small changes to TQ management, timing( Added) and fuel( took some way) but the car literal screws now off the line, Hit it few times over the weekend from a dig and you could actualy feel the car twist a bit, even the wife was like WHOA did we slid or something, LOL . Just seems so different now.. BTW the fans speed is AWESOME, U usually see 200 oil temps and 185 tranny temps, We adj the temp to 185 fans start to come on and I saw nothing above 185 oil and 165 Tranny. Idle not sure man sorry but looks like 950? If I remember right. 7SPD auto BTW
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