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Old 02-16-2011, 04:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Yes Docaam the 1:1 in 7AT is 4th gear..

But 5AT like Sam's car "IS" 3rd gear.. lol redyno and you will see 300 HP

Now i see why your base numbers were similar to mine all though you have more mods than I do.. they did it on 3rd gear!
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Is there another tuner nearby with a different dyno? Have others dyno'd there and have had similar results? from what I've seen Mustangs do read lower than most, And 4th is the sweet spot for 7AT.
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I believe the torque was measured in newton-meters rather than foot-pounds. But after conversion still seems way too low, about 193 ft-lbs before and 211 ft-lbs after. I guess attributed to wrong gear selection.

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Is there another tuner nearby with a different dyno? Have others dyno'd there and have had similar results? from what I've seen Mustangs do read lower than most, And 4th is the sweet spot for 7AT.
Being in 3rd alone is explanation for the loss in HP. If you're not driving the wheels with a 1:1 ratio, it easily explains ~30 hp loss.
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Yes Docaam the 1:1 in 7AT is 4th gear..

But 5AT like Sam's car "IS" 3rd gear.. lol redyno and you will see 300 HP

Now i see why your base numbers were similar to mine all though you have more mods than I do.. they did it on 3rd gear!
The tuner said the difference wont be that much in 3rd and 4th? but will put unnecessary pressure on the gear?

which dyno tensai has?

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Is there another tuner nearby with a different dyno? Have others dyno'd there and have had similar results? from what I've seen Mustangs do read lower than most, And 4th is the sweet spot for 7AT.
There are only two tuners here one is this where I went and usually everyone goes, I cant compare the numbers with other people because hey just moved their dyno and told me before hand it will read low.

The second is one where G37sHKS took his car, he was soo dishearted that he detuned his car, after they broke his gearbox....they are good with EVOs tough

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I believe the torque was measured in newton-meters rather than foot-pounds. But after conversion still seems way too low, about 193 ft-lbs before and 211 ft-lbs after. I guess attributed to wrong gear selection.
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Being in 3rd alone is explanation for the loss in HP. If you're not driving the wheels with a 1:1 ratio, it easily explains ~30 hp loss.
I will be checking with them on Saturday as they are closed till then

So what you reckon, a retune and redyno or just a redyno?
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The tuner said the difference wont be that much in 3rd and 4th? but will put unnecessary pressure on the gear?

which dyno tensai has?
I dont know know about what your tunner said to be honest. Never had experience with dem but when i was tunning. we tried 3rd, 4th, 5th gear and the 4th gives the highest HP/TQ..

If my info were correct. even AFR is not accurate if you dyno your car with wrong gear. please some1 correct me if im wrong

btw i might be in dubai too, Lets just say I suck at DIY. Maybe you can pick me from evolve and go check your tunner together and drop me back when we finish

Edit: Tansai Have mustang dyno.

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Even if the wrong gear was used it wouldn't explain the inconsistency between the HP and torque figures. Mathematically they just don't make sense.

Mustang dyno's do read very low, which is fine, but when the torque and HP don't correlate I would be concerned that they know what they are doing.
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5th gear is 1.1 in a 7 AT.
and 4th is 1.1 in the 5 AT.

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Yes Docaam the 1:1 in 7AT is 4th gear..

But 5AT like Sam's car "IS" 3rd gear.. lol redyno and you will see 300 HP

Now i see why your base numbers were similar to mine all though you have more mods than I do.. they did it on 3rd gear!
how confident you were

Maybe thats why the tuner broke your gearbox

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5th gear is 1.1 in a 7 AT.
and 4th is 1.1 in the 5 AT.

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Thanks man, will do the dyno on 4th and 5th, would like to know which gear they use for dyno on 7AT, as 5th is an overdrive gear so I dont know pushing in overdrive gear is ok or not
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4th is the gear you want. 3rd gives silly low numbers, and you will hit the speed/rev limiter in 5th.
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I will be going again for the dyno, apparently I saw there was a leak in my ART pipes, so I think either will do it after removing those or replacing those
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I'm thinking of getting ART pipes with a tune later on and the shop I'm going to (AWDTuning in DFW) uses a mustang dyno as well. Dyno'd my car yesterday and the results are in line with what Docaam had, 267 HP, 207 TQ with F.I. CBE and G3 intakes. Ambient temps were like in the mid to high 80s but lots of humidity.
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Old 04-24-2011, 05:26 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Well, whatever power you made, your car looks badass. The end.
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Old 04-25-2011, 08:34 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Yea Mustangs are wierd, But you numbers look like mine. Pre tune. I made 243 WP and 220 WHTQ, I also have a 7SPD AT and did 4th gear, which some also told me was the wrong gear , Even tho others told me is was the right gear.. My numbers where a lot lower than others- for 1 I have a X , Mustang dyno and the correction was not even 1.. Correction was .09. They guys told me the numbers where like a STG 2 STI.\

I also think I would have made higher numbers as they did not do the runs till the numbers stabilized, Each run was 5WHP more than the last. IE first run was 233 WHp last was 243 WHP?? Car was still learning the exhaust (Was only a week old), Oh I only had 1500 miles one the car also.

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