ECUTEK = Adjustable Traction Control

Hotrodz · 09-14-2017, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Jhill

I don't believe so but can't say for sure as I don't slam full throttle out of turn and haven't had it kick in on the actual track. I have had it kick in on the little skills section (like tight auto x turns) and it is very invasive there even at full minimum. It doesn't seem to work like the motec that just prevents you going over x rpm until traction gained but has a more noticeable fuel cut. It's not useful at all for auto x I would say as it upsets the car balance.

Hmm, maybe this is what is happening to me when getting on the throttle on second gear turns. Either way, wheel spin and have the fuel and rpm cut results are the same...slow exit speed! I just make those turns in third gear to avoid the issue. I still have not felt an issue during trail braking even at Auto Club coming into turn #3 and braking from 120 to 130 down to 30 or 40 mph or so.

This is good all good stuff to how everyone is experiencing these situations. Also to note, I have a big a$$ wing and a front splitter that helps out a lot on mechanical grip so I'm sure that also plays a role in braking and so cornering.

Jhill · 09-14-2017, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

Hmm, maybe this is what is happening to me when getting on the throttle on second gear turns. Either way, wheel spin and have the fuel and rpm cut results are the same...slow exit speed! I just make those turns in third gear to avoid the issue. I still have not felt an issue during trail braking even at Auto Club coming into turn #3 and braking from 120 to 130 down to 30 or 40 mph or so.

This is good all good stuff to how everyone is experiencing these situations. Also to note, I have a big a$$ wing and a front splitter that helps out a lot on mechanical grip so I'm sure that also plays a role in braking and so cornering.

I was joking on the trail braking, that was all me screwing up. But yes all you have to do is find an open parking lot and do a tight turn and slam the gas as if you wanted it to step out a little and power out. It will immediately cut throttle and the car will lurch and jerk through the turn even at minimum intervention. So I have to use map 4 which is like oem off=off in order to get the rear to step out a little but then there is nothing there to save it if I go too aggressive.

When I first tested it the instructors thought it was me slamming the throttle on and off through the turn and said to be more gentle on the throttle which I explained it wasn't me letting off but the traction control doing fuel cut so then I even tried to go lighter on throttle to not have it kick in and it just never worked in that situation. It does prevent you from spinning though so that's probably a good thing for actual track usage.

Hotrodz · 09-14-2017, 07:09 PM

Lol, that is funny! So yeah, I just stay in third gear and accept the few tenths of a second being slower out of the turn. It's nothing for me to worry about now as I am not that good......yet!

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Jhill · 09-15-2017, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

Lol, that is funny! So yeah, I just stay in third gear and accept the few tenths of a second being slower out of the turn. It's nothing for me to worry about now as I am not that good......yet!

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Ha well I was only just bumped to group b right before my last session where I did my impressive spin out. Was worried they would demote me after that one lol. So I'll hold on to the not good title for a bit. I'm not TT either and it's still more than enough car for me as I still can't quiet get myself to hold flat out throttle over the hill turn one at leguna. Getting closer though, but I'd bet TT boost hit would scare me more and cause me to hold back even harder.

Elmo370z · 09-15-2017, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

Lol, that is funny! So yeah, I just stay in third gear and accept the few tenths of a second being slower out of the turn. It's nothing for me to worry about now as I am not that good......yet!

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Do you have the yaw kill switch? I didn't have any issues trail braking at 100 mph with it activated.

Hotrodz · 09-15-2017, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z

Do you have the yaw kill switch? I didn't have any issues trail braking at 100 mph with it activated.

I do not have the kill switch as I have not had any issues so far. In fact when I was at Auto Club I was coming into turn 3 at about 125 and my instructor, Steven Doherty (Nissan Challenge Winner) wanted me to trail braking into that slow left handier and I was carrying a little to much speed I thought so I applied the harder than I had planned and the car snapped (not violently but under control) to the left and planted and he was like that is what I'm talking about. I was totally expecting the yaw sensor to jack me up but it did not try and correct the car as far as I could tell. So after that I have been practicing the technique without fear.

Ventruck · 09-15-2017, 05:38 PM

I know we're all on different setups power and tire-wise...

but what setting are you all running for traction control?

Memphis370Z · 09-15-2017, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ventruck

I know we're all on different setups power and tire-wise...

but what setting are you all running for traction control?

For normal driving around, I have mine set on 180-degrees on the oil temp gauge. N/A with 305s in the back.

Hotrodz · 09-15-2017, 06:52 PM

From 120 to 140 all the time unless rain. Re-11 19 305/30 street and r888 18 295/30 and nt01 18 315/30 for track.

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Silly Rabbit · 09-16-2017, 07:51 AM

How do I check for this option and add it? I have race rom, the cable and the access software. I don't have the bluetooth obdII dongle.

Hotrodz · 09-16-2017, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Silly Rabbit

How do I check for this option and add it? I have race rom, the cable and the access software. I don't have the bluetooth obdII dongle.

Just push up on the cruise control toggle and watch the gauge on the oil temp. It will move up to were the tc is set at and then fall back to what the oil temp really is. Press it up again and when it rises and stops, press down on the toggle and stop when it get to the setting you desire.

Rusty · 09-16-2017, 10:32 PM

Questions. Does the VDC off and a Yaw sensor kill switch makes any difference in operation of this TC?

osbornsm · 09-16-2017, 10:48 PM

Yes, your TCS must be disabled by the standard button for this to function.

Ape Factory · 09-17-2017, 09:31 AM

My TC seems to be pretty progressive. Need to check with Seb but I don't think I have the option of adjusting it myself without the bluetooth setup as I have a G37 (no oil temp gauge) but it does allow for some wheelspin/sideways shenanigans coming out of a corner but not at the behest of forward momentum.

There is a bit of counter steering involved and then a bit of steering correction when the tires gain 100% traction. But if you let the tires slip long enough (I think it's wheelspin percentage based), it'll kick in by quite smoothly. Granted, I do not have forced induction and I would be willing to bet that's more of a challenge for the TC system.

I've never felt anything like a hard fuel cut. I always thought it was timing or throttle-based.

Ultimately it isn't as good as a full-on Motec setup. It doesn't cost $10K to install and set up either though.

Spooler · 09-17-2017, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jhill

I was joking on the trail braking, that was all me screwing up. But yes all you have to do is find an open parking lot and do a tight turn and slam the gas as if you wanted it to step out a little and power out. It will immediately cut throttle and the car will lurch and jerk through the turn even at minimum intervention. So I have to use map 4 which is like oem off=off in order to get the rear to step out a little but then there is nothing there to save it if I go too aggressive.

When I first tested it the instructors thought it was me slamming the throttle on and off through the turn and said to be more gentle on the throttle which I explained it wasn't me letting off but the traction control doing fuel cut so then I even tried to go lighter on throttle to not have it kick in and it just never worked in that situation. It does prevent you from spinning though so that's probably a good thing for actual track usage.

Do you still have the stock VLSD? This issue went away for me when I installed the OSG LSD. Car is more controlled and TC cutouts have reduced greatly when on. I really have to sling it around to have an issue. I normally run with TC turned off and the car is very predictable. Ecuteck would help me greatly.

09-14-2017, 07:09 PM	#18 (permalink)
Hotrodz Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684384	Lol, that is funny! So yeah, I just stay in third gear and accept the few tenths of a second being slower out of the turn. It's nothing for me to worry about now as I am not that good......yet! Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

09-15-2017, 06:52 PM	#24 (permalink)
Hotrodz Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684384	From 120 to 140 all the time unless rain. Re-11 19 305/30 street and r888 18 295/30 and nt01 18 315/30 for track. Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk redondoaveb likes this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

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Silly Rabbit Track Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Brookston, IN Age: 54 Posts: 683 Drives: '12 PW Touring Sport Rep Power: 618	How do I check for this option and add it? I have race rom, the cable and the access software. I don't have the bluetooth obdII dongle. __________________ NISMO R Tune Intakes \ Fast Intentions RHFC \ Borla CBE \ EcuTek Tuned\ SPL Camber Arms \ Powertrix Coilovers \ Swift Springs \ Avant Garde \ Wicked CAS \ Morimoto XB Halos \ Custom Fenders \ Hotchkis Sways \ NLP Splitter

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osbornsm A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: WHAT Posts: 2,551 Drives: 2018 Camaro SS 1LE Rep Power: 423	Yes, your TCS must be disabled by the standard button for this to function. __________________ 2018 Camaro SS 1LE (455hp) - 2011 Nissan 370z (333hp) - 2004 VW R32 (240hp) - 2000 Civic Si (160hp)

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Ventruck Track Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: California Posts: 782 Drives: '13 Sport+Touring M6 Rep Power: 22897	I know we're all on different setups power and tire-wise... but what setting are you all running for traction control?

09-17-2017, 09:31 AM	#29 (permalink)
Ape Factory Base Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: San Antonio Posts: 210 Drives: Audi RS5/QX70S Rep Power: 9	My TC seems to be pretty progressive. Need to check with Seb but I don't think I have the option of adjusting it myself without the bluetooth setup as I have a G37 (no oil temp gauge) but it does allow for some wheelspin/sideways shenanigans coming out of a corner but not at the behest of forward momentum. There is a bit of counter steering involved and then a bit of steering correction when the tires gain 100% traction. But if you let the tires slip long enough (I think it's wheelspin percentage based), it'll kick in by quite smoothly. Granted, I do not have forced induction and I would be willing to bet that's more of a challenge for the TC system. I've never felt anything like a hard fuel cut. I always thought it was timing or throttle-based. Ultimately it isn't as good as a full-on Motec setup. It doesn't cost $10K to install and set up either though. Hotrodz and Elmo370z like this. __________________ '13 Audi RS5 Misano w/mods-The Red Mist '13 G37 IPL-SOLD

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