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Originally Posted by McdreamyZ thanks for the info iv been looking into as much angle as well . i have seen that they have outer tie rods from spl but

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Old 04-02-2014, 03:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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thanks for the info iv been looking into as much angle as well . i have seen that they have outer tie rods from spl but iv only seen it in one place Steering Parts, Upgrades, and Accessories
These are nice, but I'm waiting to see how Voodoo13 kit will be pieced together because they are also working on outer tie rods from what I hear. If we are keeping the stock knuckle we need more caster...i'm at 5.4 caster and would like to be over 10. I know SPL make some caster adjustable arms but have not seen any info about max caster gain from them.
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what specs are you running as far as alignment front camber ,rear camber , rear toe?
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what specs are you running as far as alignment front camber ,rear camber , rear toe?
Toe out 1/8" front and 1/8" in for the rear
Camber -2.4 front and -1.5 rear
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No plans for a hydraulic e-brake?
I have looked into it but don't have enough justification for it yet. I'm pretty happy with the ebrake performance so far. I will do more testing and see how it handles the season. 1st event is on April 5th.
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oooh April 5th! You going to Long Beach?
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oooh April 5th! You going to Long Beach?
I wish! I'll be at Club Loose in NJ.
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awesome, cant wait to see more. Didnt know about the yaw switch. I havent had problems with electronics yet. Try these rocker switches, they fit right in the factory dummies perfect. Full Size Rocker Switches - 1/4'' Tabs - ON-OFF SPST - WiringProducts
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awesome, cant wait to see more. Didnt know about the yaw switch. I havent had problems with electronics yet. Try these rocker switches, they fit right in the factory dummies perfect. Full Size Rocker Switches - 1/4'' Tabs - ON-OFF SPST - WiringProducts
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The reason for the Yaw sensor kill was because if you are mid drift and use the brakes to slow down the gas pedal was not responding for me. Now it does every time. I should mention using brakes mid drift to slow down is a good idea but the ABS wants to straighten the car out and it is another reason to remove abs and go with proportioning valve setup. While we are on the topic of the gas pedal, I should also mention the gas input or throttle position map is strange on this car compared to others...feels delayed for the 1st half of the range. A Local tuner said he can reprogram that. Need to look into that someday.
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It's not the ABS that wants to straighten out the car mid turn. It's the Stability Control causing the issue by appling a rear brake. I got yelled at by a driving instructor for appling the brakes mid turn. Reveiwed the GoPro later show that I did not applied the brakes. The instructor had to eat his words. But yes, the Yaw sensor is the issue.
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It's not the ABS that wants to straighten out the car mid turn. It's the Stability Control causing the issue by appling a rear brake. I got yelled at by a driving instructor for appling the brakes mid turn. Reveiwed the GoPro later show that I did not applied the brakes. The instructor had to eat his words. But yes, the Yaw sensor is the issue.
Yes true about your condition. But try sliding the car w/ Yaw sensor off and tapping brakes w/ clutch not engaged ... it won't stay sideways its straightening out where normally it wouldn't on a non abs car. Another ABS issue i'm having is if you make a mistake and spin going rear in you can't be hard on the brakes...abs goes mental and brakes actually don't slow you down for a period of time where with non abs you can modulate below 40mph or intentionally lock them. Perhaps its just my ABS system not working to standard? not sure...
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April 5th event @ Club Loose was in one word, Amazing!
Many great drivers with everyone being super helpful.















On a technical note: There is about half inch in space between lower control arm and the front rim at static max lock. During the event due to loads the lower arm showed more wear...I'm not going crazy but I painted over the old spot I had cut. The wheel cut some 5mm more of it out and tire polished it up again...I will try some 20 or 25mm front spacers.IMO the More angle = more fun because you can save yourself.

In the end I was doing entries at about 50-55mph. Just have to learn / build confidence in yourself and the car. Initiating well, reacting in the moment not after the weight shift is key to a fun drift IMO. Cannot wait for the next even!!
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Sorry, just tuning in to this thread. Im curious to why you are changing the proportioning value in the rear?
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