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Originally Posted by Ron Charles count me in for a setup that will support 700rwhp. Car will have a fuel return system with upgraded fuel rails with ID1000s and larger

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Old 08-26-2013, 02:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Charles count me in for a setup that will support 700rwhp. Car will have a fuel return system with upgraded fuel rails with ID1000s and larger feed lines.
Our RR pump is completely compatible with a return fuel system! I will probably announce a special price for our return fuel systems to include as a package with the RR pump. I am finishing up some latest updates to them right now and will show them off soon.
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Our RR pump is completely compatible with a return fuel system! I will probably announce a special price for our return fuel systems to include as a package with the RR pump. I am finishing up some latest updates to them right now and will show them off soon.
I am in for that fuel system package since I haven't bought anything yet. Will you offer feed lines as well?
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I am in for that fuel system package since I haven't bought anything yet. Will you offer feed lines as well?
Yes I will have a couple different levels to choose from. We have always had the stage 0 kit and basic components like rails, twin pump, etc... then the road race pump. Now I am finishing the lineup for at least a stage 2 and 3 kit, and have made some changes to the rails and stuff.

Our fuel system kits are always complete.. The way CJM does it stages is easy:

Stage 0: This means no supply upgrade, just a return conversion for returnless cars.

Stage 1: Upgrades entire engine bay, and adds return conversion to returnless cars.

Stage 2: This is a stage 1 kit, plus all upgraded lines to/from the tank.

Stage 3: This is a stage 2 kit, plus integration of a multi-pump hanger... This involves slightly different plumbing at the rear of the car.

I know stages are sorta cheesy but its just an easy way for us to isolate the severity of the upgrade.

As I am finalizing these additional options, I am making my decisions on integrating the road race pump to the kits, which can simply be designated S2RR, and so on.

I have also been playing with the idea of a version where the road race pump completely eliminates the OEM sending unit, and takes its place. It was designed from the start to be something that I could turn into that... theres some pluses and some minus's of doing this, but I am theorizing ways to eliminate the minuses and it could result in a more simple setup inside the tank if it works. Its just that... how complicated do I really want to make all the options for you guys to have to choose from? I know that you want to learn and understand your fuel system, but I dont think you guys want to study for a month to decide which route you think is best for you. I need to settle on HP and application ratings for each combo to make the decisions clear as possible.
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I have also been playing with the idea of a version where the road race pump completely eliminates the OEM sending unit, and takes its place. It was designed from the start to be something that I could turn into that... theres some pluses and some minus's of doing this, but I am theorizing ways to eliminate the minuses and it could result in a more simple setup inside the tank if it works. Its just that... how complicated do I really want to make all the options for you guys to have to choose from? I know that you want to learn and understand your fuel system, but I dont think you guys want to study for a month to decide which route you think is best for you. I need to settle on HP and application ratings for each combo to make the decisions clear as possible.
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I have also been playing with the idea of a version where the road race pump completely eliminates the OEM sending unit, and takes its place. It was designed from the start to be something that I could turn into that... theres some pluses and some minus's of doing this, but I am theorizing ways to eliminate the minuses and it could result in a more simple setup inside the tank if it works. Its just that... how complicated do I really want to make all the options for you guys to have to choose from? I know that you want to learn and understand your fuel system, but I dont think you guys want to study for a month to decide which route you think is best for you. I need to settle on HP and application ratings for each combo to make the decisions clear as possible.
Any more ideas on this setup Charles? This might be a nice idea for the FI guys like me who want to maintain use of a larger pump to feed the motor.
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Any more ideas on this setup Charles? This might be a nice idea for the FI guys like me who want to maintain use of a larger pump to feed the motor.
I will begin work on this once the staged VHR fuel systems are completed in the next couple weeks. It will be good timing since that is when the Road Race Pumps will be going into the CNC. We will start from the bottom, working our way up... and the changes for what I will now refer to as the "standalone road race pump" will all take place at the top. I dont think it will be very difficult for me to develop the conversion, but I have my concerns about testing. Basically, it will need testing before I trust it. This would be best done in a non-turbo or non-supercharger car.. that way if there are any problems that cause a pressure drop, there is no risk of engine damage like there is in a boosted car. I think that testing might work best if I make the conversion parts and send them to an existing user of our road race pump with a non-boosted car who is interested in switching to this setup. They could leave all the in-tank hoses in there and everything so that if there is a problem with the new setup, its not a big chore to go back to the proven setup.

I think about this standalone version every night, and I fully intend to see it through. I dont know that I can make it exist before dead of winter or beginning of spring.
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Our RR pump is completely compatible with a return fuel system! I will probably announce a special price for our return fuel systems to include as a package with the RR pump. I am finishing up some latest updates to them right now and will show them off soon.
I'll be sending my payment tonight. Anything on pricing with a return system though?
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I'll be sending my payment tonight. Anything on pricing with a return system though?
We can probably go for 10% off return systems purchased with RRPs. Currently VHR rails are out of stock - one of the next items to machine... so only S1 return kits are available.
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We can probably go for 10% off return systems purchased with RRPs. Currently VHR rails are out of stock - one of the next items to machine... so only S1 return kits are available.
Okay. How would I go about paying for it?

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