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Originally Posted by Minsu i just dont want to be missing out on the brakes are the brakes on the base really all the great i know there brembos right?

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Old 03-20-2013, 12:08 AM   #1 (permalink)
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i just dont want to be missing out on the brakes are the brakes on the base really all the great i know there brembos right? but are the stock brakes not strong or something?
Alrighty then.
Now. I will make the recommendation that you don't buy the car...

Stick around a bit longer before you pull the trigger and go on A FEW test drives...

They're Akebonos, the base brakes are OK for DD-ing, and your first few track days... They heat up much quicker casing brake fade. That's the issue
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its gonna be my dd no track for me dont wanna die to early.
slightly misinformed here. Honestly the whole auto vs manual thing for me is 30% of the issue. People say "theres just something to driving stick" and i can kinda understand what there getting at. But if you drive manual im gonna assume you cant do much but drive. although this is what it should be i cant help but pick up my phone for an important call.
Im gonna take your advices on sticking around longer and the auto thing
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I drive auto and I believe that our 7AT is the best traditional automatic transmission out there.

It shifts pretty fast, I believe less than half a second. The paddles are column mounted and very large, same as the GT-R's. They feel great to shift with, not clicky and flimsy like a lot of other paddles.

A lot of other cars will automatically upshift at redline when in manual mode, and a good deal won't let you downshift aggressively (ISF Im looking at you). The 7AT in the Z will hold gears and will let you downshift down to redline. It's also not much heavier than the manual trans, I think the number I read was 25 or 50 lbs, whereas most are over 100lb weight increases.

A manual is definitely more fun when you are just driving for fun though. It's one more interaction you have with the car. But having that additional action also makes it more of a chore if you ever have to drive in a traffic jam, or city traffic.

Off the line, I believe our auto gives us a pretty good advantage. I have a friend who recently bought a modded STi, putting 350 hp to the wheels. We had a couple runs on a country road, and due to having perfect and quick shifts everytime, the 7AT helped me pull on his car. And I sat in his car on a more technical course, he wasn't willing to go down a gear for some turns, which means he wasn't as quick coming out of the corner, putting him out of his powerband. Meanwhile, I was always able to keep in the 4.5-7k range, and it made several seconds difference. The advantage would be lost on a full sized track though, where speeds are higher.

I've had a lot of people who talk down to me for getting an automatic on a sports car, but after I show them how it works and the things I could do with it, they always change their opinions.
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I really, really love the AT on this car. Stock the shifts are faster on the average than any human can shift (as evidenced by marginally faster mean 0-60 and 1/4 mile times compared to the 6MT), and with a tune you can make the shifts even faster and firmer.

Reviews have been, to he best of my knowledge, universally positive (note: the G37's trans tune may be different, and has been slightly less adored...). Short of a GT-R or PDK Porsche, you won't find anything like it.

Also, no evidence of greater drivetrain losses than the MT on dynos (full lock up torque converter from gears 2-7, and cf composite driveshaft probably help there) , which is remarkable, but has been repeatedly empirically verified.

And -- you get automatically rev matched downshifts, even on the non-sport package version of the 7AT.

Unless you do not consider the act of operating a motor vehicle to be "driving" in the absence of a third pedal (and to be fair, many folks do feel that way), I think you we quite pleased with the 7AT.
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Ive got the G in AT which I am pretty sure in 100% the same as the Z. I made a Grounding Kit and I now can shift faster than anyone with a manual and 90% of people with AT. I have taken cars soley because of the quicker gear grabs.
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Besides, a MT is the best anti auto theft/car jacking device there is! The idiots can't drive a stick
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I have fun with my auto plus the Mrs. can drive it. Kinda hard to fondle the ladies with no free hands. That one leaves most speachless after asking the manual question.

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I've been driving manuals for the past 20 years and went to the dealership with the same mentality that a sports car should be nothing but a manual. Then I test drove my 7AT, signed the papers and haven't looked back. I just ignore the manual versus automatic debates because arguing about which is better is like pissing into the wind. Drive what feels right to you and what you are going to enjoy.
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I've been driving manuals for the past 20 years and went to the dealership with the same mentality that a sports car should be nothing but a manual. Then I test drove my 7AT, signed the papers and haven't looked back. I just ignore the manual versus automatic debates because arguing about which is better is like pissing into the wind. Drive what feels right to you and what you are going to enjoy.
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I've been driving manuals for the past 20 years and went to the dealership with the same mentality that a sports car should be nothing but a manual. Then I test drove my 7AT, signed the papers and haven't looked back. I just ignore the manual versus automatic debates because arguing about which is better is like pissing into the wind. Drive what feels right to you and what you are going to enjoy.
Pretty much same here. The only thing I miss is having the power over the clutch. But that is a small price to pay for how much fun it is to drive with the paddle shifters
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I would only say don't get something you feel you'd second guess. If from day one you felt you wanted an AT and manual was an afterthought I'd say go with the AT transmission

Many years ago I wanted a Prelude really bad, jumped on the cheapest one that happened to be auto. I regretted it and spent much of my time trying to make it look manual (shift boots, different shift knobs etc)

I also wouldn't go base, brakes look a little puny and I think you'd enjoy the perks of a Touring/Sport much better if you can find one. Also doesn't sound like you'd be doing lots of modifications so I think it would be a better fit for you.
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well im looking at a couple if i cant get a white 370 i was gonna get any color nismo i can get my hands on. and since nismo only comes in manny i have nothing to worry about it terms of looking. i called for a nismo and he said OTD 31k so im trying to really jump on that deal. i was gonna walk in with 29k and see if they would budge on that but that all depends on if i can get 14k financed cause i have 15k already
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also 7AT all the way. solely based on performance and if the OP is gonna DD it then yes 7AT is the way to go.

also if you have no care on performance then base model is fine. personally i had to get the sports with the much better brakes and LSD.

the touring and nav was my bonus to my self lol

also i got such a deal on mine it was hard to resist
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