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Mt Tam I am · 11-22-2011, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

The rear end stepping out is fine. You should have progressively braked later and later hopefully to find how truly late you can brake...but you do it in tiny increments until you are just braking TOO late.

How did the front end slide out? Were you mid-corner, entering the corner, exiting?

Btw, a temporary loss of control shouldnt necessarily be interpretted as bad...pushing yourself is the point of learning. Many people actually feel GOOD when they finally spin out, or go off track. They know they pushed themselves to the limit, and (hopefully) they remember where it is from that point on. Keeping yourself in a constant state of control without ever hitting any of those points likely means you have much room to go faster

RE: How did the front end slide out? Were you mid-corner, entering the corner, exiting?

At 21:10 in part 2 watch what happens. Maybe a little oil or something. Rubber from the line when wet. I don't know. I didn't mash it at all.

I like the concept of braking a little bit later and later. And yes I do have plenty of room to go faster. I like the way you think. Thanks

MightyBobo · 11-22-2011, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am

RE: How did the front end slide out? Were you mid-corner, entering the corner, exiting?

At 21:10 in part 2 watch what happens. Maybe a little oil or something. Rubber from the line when wet. I don't know. I didn't mash it at all.

I like the concept of braking a little bit later and later. And yes I do have plenty of room to go faster. I like the way you think. Thanks

Yeah, I watched that and was going to comment about it - if your front tires went out, you'd have simply plowed forward. But you didnt, your rear end started stepping out, and you did a momentary countersteer to the left to correct it. The computer was already doing the magic for you really so you'd have likely been fine, but that definitely looks like your rear end was simply stepping out.

I could see him egging you on to brake later on that one corner (right after 21:35) - I can almost FEEL yourself mentally trying to prepare for it haha. Theres no harm in overshooting it a bit once, but working your way STEADILY to that point is the key

ChrisSlicks · 11-23-2011, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am

RE: How did the front end slide out? Were you mid-corner, entering the corner, exiting?

At 21:10 in part 2 watch what happens. Maybe a little oil or something. Rubber from the line when wet. I don't know. I didn't mash it at all.

The car in it's stock form has a natural understeer tendency. When you find the limit of traction in a neutral throttle corner like that one you will tend to understeer. In the wet, understeer can result in wheel skip like that. The best thing you is straighten the wheel out a bit and breath off the gas a little (but not a full lift) until the skipping stops. In the wet you learn that traction is different at different parts of the track depending on surface conditions, camber, etc and is sometimes dynamic (raining harder, easing off). Driving at the limit in the rain is an act of exploration

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